[Jammer09]

Heilsa!
Well, I want to format both internal HDs and reinstall WindowsXp on an HP Pavilion 533w with all of the hardware state below and actually we have been hear before with another machine and I know how to do most of it, I THINK, as we did it once already hear: forums.pcworld.com/thread/28111|t-28111
BUT, this is a different PC altogether and no installation Cds as we had before. It is an HP Pavilion 533w, with the main C: and its restore partition and an added 200 GB internal HD D:
a 2 GHz Intel ® Celeron Processor,
2GB of RAM,
a TriGem Glendale Motherboard ID: 31891. HPD. 0000.D.0208212028,
chipset North Bridge - Gi845GL
The BIOS is Phoenix Technologies LTD6.00 date 08/21/2002.
it also has a Intel ® 82845 G/GL Graphics Controller iaLmrnt5 driver, I think is 6.13.01.3119.
It also says that it has Legacy Video Capture Devices V-Stream 2388x Video Capture 4.099.3 .
It has a Intel 82801DB ICH4 AC'97 Audio Controller Realtek AC'97 Driver 5.10.0.5730
It has a COMBI RW 16 x 10 / DVD that came with it
It has an HP DVD writer 640c that was installed later

The modem is a Lucent Win Modem driver 8.28.0.0

And we don't have any manufacturer installation Cds from HP for any drivers and or applications needed or provided from Hp if they do provide any and or for any of the above mentioned Hardware. I have WindowsXp Home edition installation Cd and the product code to use with it and that is it!


I would like some advice on these issues as where to start do I just use the WindowsXp installation CD to format the HDs like I think we did in the other Thread similar to this one in the link above? And where do I start after that not having any drivers for anything and in what order is everything supposed to be done as we had to install some things in certain orders in the other thread I believe if I remeber and am reading correctly.


Let me also state that this PC had over 900 infections on it and cleaned by CA antivirus and SuperAntispyware. That is the reason for the format and reinstall!


I would greatly appreciate it if someone, anyone would care to help in this matter in any way!


Ves Heill! Farr Heill!
Message was edited by: Jammer09

[Jammer09]

Heilsa!

When I went through this before we put in the WindowsXp installation Cd and chose new install and deleted all partitions and made new NTFS. Now we have two HDs on this machine will it give me the chance to delete both and create two new NTFS HDs or what I have never worked with two actual HDs before.

Ves Heill! Farr Heill!

[Jammer09]

Heilsa!
I booted from Cdrom and deleted the restore partician and C: partician and D: partician and formatted C: into one NTFS particitian and installed WindowsXp on it. Now it left D: unformatted and D: is suppose to be 200GB but when I go to format it now after installation of Windows it says that it will only have 127GB, why is this? I will not format it until I hear from someone who knows why that happened and what happened to the other 73GBs on D: and what I can do to resolve this and get them back.

Can I just boot WindowsXp installation again from Cdrom and delete D: partician again and make another D: particitian again and make sure that it is the full 200GB or closer to it? Did it leave some thing there somehow, couldn't have done that as I deleted it, or not give me the whole space provided somehow, well obviously it did that, but why would that happen?

I also got the Modem drivers

the Realtek AC97 Audio drivers

the Video Graphics Controller drivers.

Do I need the Bios and Motherboard and chipset etc...What all do I need to get and in what order should this stuff be installed?

Ves Heill! Farr Heill!

[Jammer09]

Heilsa!

Well, I am going ahead with the format of D: even though it says that it will only be 127GBs. I ran windows install again and deleted D: again and created it a new again. It would only let me use the max amount of space it had for listed for D: and that was around 131GBs.

I also am not able to write to disk using the Cdrom still. When I try to it says that I don't have Admininstrator privelegs and need them to access the device and or function etc... Do you think one of those virus's or whatever messed the firmware up on them? Do I need to flash them with firmware or something?

Ves Heill! Farr Heill!

[Jammer09]

Heilsa!

Ok, I guess I am the only one on this thread and or project. Well, everything is working properly but I have a "MultiMedia Video Controller" as a problem device with yellow all over it in device manager. What is it? And where do I get drivers for it as it says that drivers are not installed for it.

I also would like to know what happened to that other 73GBs of HD space on D: I went ahead and formatted it and it came out to 127GBs just like it said it was going to after I went in and deleted it again and created it again with window installation. It only said the max space for it was to be like 131GBs. It is supposed to be 200GBs! CAN something somehow stay on a HD after windows deletes it and formats it. It can't can it? And maybe one of those viruses, trojans, Rootkits or whatever is either housed up there and or destroyed part of it. I am going to do a disk check on it tomorrow and see what it comes up with. Oh, DriverMax's profile of the PC in question says D: is supposed to be 200GBs. I can't figure it out!

Ves Heill! Farr Heill!

[alchav21]

Hey Jammer, I guess no one wants to answer your questions because you did this before and you sort of know what you are doing. At least you know the first place to go after installing Windows........The Device Manager! That error Multimedia Video is your Graphics Chip. If it's the OnBoard Graphics you will find the Driver on the HP Web Site for your Pavilion, all the Drivers are there.



As for you HDD's you didn't need to Format both at boot-up, just deal with the HDD where you load Windows and after use Disc Manager to Format the Slave Drives. If you are sure the HDD is 200Gb by looking at the label, and even Disc Manager reports it as 127Gb then you probably have the pin setting wrong. Putting both HDD's on CS (Cable Select) is the best pin setting. The other concern is the age of the HDD's, if they are not Seagate or Western Digital and older than 3 years they will fail soon.

[Jammer09]

Heilsa!
Yes, like I stated I have been through this before but with the Dell I worked on it had all of its own installation disks for drivers etc... And I had never really done this on one accept for a Sony machine running Win.98. So, I was really just asking for guidance as to maybe finding some of the stuff etc... And I didn't have the problems with video in either one of the other machines I worked on.

Now are you talking about the Graphics Controller drivers when you are saying graphics Chip, your not are you? Your talking about something on board, a chip on the motherboard maybe, well I have looked at what Hp has for this machine and the only thing I see listed related to any thing concerning video, I think, is the Graphics Controller drivers and I already have them installed. Your meaning something different aren't you? I don't think Hp is listing it in the section I am looking in. They might have it somewhere else. If you know or someone knows how to find them somewhere else on Hp or anywhere else please let me know!

I will try putting the HDD on CS and or see if they are already on there and post what I find and or happens. Now I was reading last night that some manufacturers setup some hidden backup software on areas on HDD that formatting won't get rid of and it will make the HDD look smaller than it really is and that all sorts of nasties can hang out in these areas etc... Here is the URL for the place that I read it at it is about the fifth post down in the thread: http://askbobrankin.com/virusruinshard_drive.html I don't know how reliable this info. is but could it be that and I have to Fdisk or something to take that section out?

Thank you for your input, suggestions and advice, I appreciate it!

Ves Heill! Farr Heill!

[alchav21]

Yes, by OnBoard I mean Graphics Card built into the Motherboard. If you added a separate Graphics Card, then you have to take a look and see who the Manufacturer is, and download the Drivers from them. Here is the Link for your Pavilian 533w Drivers. If this is the page you were talking about the Drivers should work and eliminate the error.

http://h10025.www1.h...n&product=90862

[Jammer09]

Heilsa!

alchav21, yes that is the site I was looking at and I have already installed that graphics controller driver, if that is what you are talking about, and actually the Graphics Controller on this machine is the same one that is on my HP pc so I know that it came factory. Now I do have some questions as to what is provided for this machine by Hp on that site. Like the fimware updates are not even the correct ones for the factory CDrom that it has on it. And that BIOS upgrade do I really need that as I don't even think that is the same BIOS that is in this machine? Like what is that HP help and Support center recovery cleanup utility? And is it really needed? And those security updates, doesn't Microsoft provide those too?

Anyway, I was reading online about that Mutlimedia Video controller and one place was saying that it has something to do with a TV tuner etc... Now he had this PC hooked up to his TV and hasn't hooked it back up and or reinstalled the software for it. Could that be what this situation is all about? Other than that one issue everything turned out great!

I do have one other issue and since it is after this fresh install I will ask if someone knows what to do. After this installation when we boot PC there is a black screen with text on it asking what OS we want to use and it has WindowsXP Home Edition twice. Now it automatically executes windowsXp after 25 seconds, I believe it is, if you don't choose either choice of windowsXp Home Edition that it has for you to choose. And it executes WindowsXP right away if you choose one of the options provided.

My question is this. Is there a way to bypass this and go straight into the execution of Windows after reboot or while booting PC? Is there some registry tweak to be had to do this or some other fix etc... ?

Ves Heill! Farr Heill!

[alchav21]

To take out that Start Up message go to System Properties, Advance Tab, Startup and Recovery and Settings Button. Then you go to System Startup and Edit Button and take out that extra line. As for the Drivers, just use the ones that are needed according to the errors. Like I said, do you have an extra Video Card. If you do and you want to leave it in the computer, take it out and read the Manufacturer and Model and go to that Web Site and download the Drivers for that Model.

[Jammer09]

Heilsa!
Alchav21 you are awsome! Thank you very much I deleted the line and it bypasses the undesired process stated above, thank you very much again!
That leaves us with the situation concerning the Multimedia Video Controller and its error code and yellow check marks in Device Manager. Well, I got to diggin around online and found a forum with a question of similar concerns as to this error. And it had it marked as solved. But the situation is with video and audio but the individual says to uninstall this Multimedia Video Controller, then reboot and when it picks up new hardware giving you options of installation and where one of them being to choose from a list, select that then choose VIA as it says to do in the statement below taken from the actual page and answer on said forum.



Do you think this below is legit, they know what they are talking about and will work? And do it just for the Multimedia Video Controller! And it would be in Device Manager of course instead of Control Panel like they are saying or am I mistaken?

*"Working solution!! One of Barbara-Bookworm's earlier replies in the
Archive told the user to go to Control Panel, find the Yellow ! ?
beside audio or video and R-Click to uninstall. I would recommend one
at a time. Reboot the computer and Windows XP will find the Hardware
and install. I did this and it worked for my onboard video card. Failed
for the audio card on the first try. I went to BIOS and found that the
onboard sound or audio card was a VIA-3058 AC97 (Info is hidden in BIOS
sub-menus) . Again, I read Barbara's advice and downloaded the Realtek
driver (Realtek http://www.realtek.c...&GetDown=false).First I uninstalled the Multimedia Audio Controller with a R-click in_
Control Panel, then rebooted and when WinXP found the new hardware, I
chose "Pick from List". It gave me four choices. I chose the VIA _
and
AC97 and installed. After that install, when there were no errors in
Control Panel but still no sound, I ran the downloaded EXE from
Realtek. I have VIDEO AND AUDIO. Thanks Barbara!*
*NOTE: ? ! Multimedia Audio Controller and ? ! Video Controller (VGA
Compatible) means the computer has no idea what to try and install. It
sees "something" but doesn't know what. If WinXP can't detect during a
"New Hardware Found" routine, then you have to tell the computer what
you have and pick from a list."*


Ves Heill! Farr Heill!

[Jammer09]

Heilsa!

Ok, the above mentioned didn't work, for one it didn't give me any VIA to choose from when I went to reinstall it and chose to select driver from a list. Now, I don't know if they are talking about choosing from the installation disc or from a certain area within Windows etc... But I didn't find any VIA to choose from.

Now, everything seems to be working even all aspects of Video as he is using his webcam, playing his games etc... I also read again, that this Mutimedia Video Controller error has to do with something concerning a TV and or Tuner etc... Or, like you are saying Alchav21, an alternate installed Video card. But there is no alternate Video card installed on this machine. I also did a search for drivers for this situation and a couple of the links it sent me to where Radeon Video Graphics Cards.

I read that the individual had the same situation with their Mulitmedia Video Controller and reinstalled their drivers for there video card for their TV or something like that and the probelm was solved.

When I reinstalled WindowsXp on this machine I forgot to unplug the USB connection that this individual had for their TV. Not to a video card but to a USB port. I had to unplug it as it kept trying to install the TV's software. So what I am thinking is that this situation has to deal with the TV being hooked up to the PC and it trying to find software for it. Or something like that.

I am going to hook up the TV to this PC and install the drivers and or software for it and see if it resolves the issue here with the Multimedia Video Controller!

But I would still like to hear others advice, comments, suggestions and or solutions to this situation if at all possible.

Ves Heill! Farr Heill!

[Jammer09]

Heilsa!

Well, the format and reinstall of windows was a success so I will close this thread. Everything went well, all accept for the Multimedia Video Controller. I will post that situation in the video section. I tried to install the software for TV but it turns out the CD only contained user's guides to the TV in question. Don't know why he had it hooked up to this PC through a USB connection. He doesn't have another Video card, just the one that came with it. Thank you again for your help!

Ves Heill! Farr Heill!

[PProsk]

Well, the best way is to call HP or to go to www.hp.com and order the original recovery DVDs for your model for Operating System and Driver/Applications.

It goana restore your PC to OMB state. Then download from www.microsoft.com updates you are looking for, uninstall all the stuff you don't need and install everything you need. ...

[Jammer09]

Heilsa!

Alchav, the problem with the Multimedia Video Controller is solved. The owner of the PC in question hooked up
his VCR to the PC and installed some PVR software and it installed the
drivers for it as it picked up the new hardware and installed it when
he installed the PVR software. PVR software has to do with TV Tuner
cards, video etc.... I haven't opened the PVR software that he
installed yet but it solved the problem. Thank you for the help!

PProsk, thank you for your imput I was wanting to know where to get recovery DVDs at, thanks.

Ves Heill! Farr Heill!

[alchav21]

Thanks Jammer for the update, I'm glad that last piece of the puzzle was solved. Happy computing and talk to you soon.