[Bruceslog]

"What a bunch of frilly
panty wearing girls, and just like a girl you feel free to have a
thought and write it down and send it to somebody to make yourself feel
something, hope it isn't smart."



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Well, the pot calls the kettle black.

[Dom2354]

How did you know I was black

[SnTholiday]

Many are calling Win 7 a new Vista SP. Noone should expect an SP to have as many changes as Win 7 contains. Now I do agree MS should offer Win 7 as a free upgrade to Vista users. This will never happen though, or how bout a much reduced upgrade price. We'll see.

[ntwizard]

I have had a very promising experience with Win 7. I upgraded four PC's and four laptop's from Vista SP1 with all current patching from WSUS. So far the Windows 7 computers are working great... However, it took my powerhouse desktop almost 3hrs
to complete.

[DSBool]

Having seen hundreds of articles about this windows 7 over the past month, all spouting the same information, but not one has discussed the EULA. I have repeated before, if the end user license agreement (EULA) does not let you install as many copies as you want or at least 4 per license, then you it will probably go the same way as Vista. Apple lets you install one copy of Mac on about 4 machines.

[Evildave]

I have a better challenge!

Install 'WUBI' and play with Linux and free open source software for 72 hours.
http://wubi-installer.org/

Then consider how you can KEEP using Linux and become an expert pretty quickly, for FREE, and never have to pay Microsoft another penny again, EVER.

Or, bend over and 'take' Windows 7 when they dish it out.

At the very least, you'll probably discover a few kids of free open source software that you'll continue to use under Windows, as you keep paying and paying to 'upgrade' broken software that you could as easily be using a selection of free versions of.

[charles849]

I must be the only one out here who is not a programmer or web designer so what I read makes an impression on me and all I have read about Vista scares the heck out of me if you guys can't make head or tails out of it what can I do. BTW what the heck is Beta ?

[JaywalkerExtraordinaire]

{quote}What the heck is Beta?{quote}

Good question. Software typically goes through several stages of development.

An alpha release is when developers release a product knowing that it is going to have issues, and probably won't be stable. However, they need to test on a variety of real world machines, with a variety of configurations. It is common for some features to not be enabled in alpha releases. Alpha releases are often not available to the general public.

A beta release is done when the software is nearing completion, but developers want rather extensive testing done in the real world to uncover any bugs they missed. Beta versions are typically pretty stable, the overwhelming majority of issues having been corrected during the alpha period. Most, if not all features are usually available in a beta release. Beta releases are often released to the public to ensure adequate testing on a large variety of platforms and configurations.

Following a beta period, there is typically a release candidate version released. This is usually done when developers feel that the software is ready to be released, but want to have one last round of testing before the official release. Sometimes there will be an rc1 version, and rc2 version, etc. Usually, this is an indication that a bug was found and fixed in a previous release candidate version, or a feature was changed/added/removed from a previous release candidate. The final release candidate should be very nearly identical to the final release.

[Bruceslog]

I could be your neighbor :)

[Bruceslog]

I'm not really concerned with the amount of time it takes Win7 to install... I hope to only have to install it once per machine.

If MS can get this one right, I can live with a 2 hour installation, as long as I only ever have to install it one time on each machine, and not have to re-install once every 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 years.... cause re-installing all my other programs and stuff is a Real pain in the butt !!

So if Microsoft makes this version a solid one, that can heal itself and all, and we only have to install it once in every machines lifetime, then I won't be concerned with how long it takes to install Win7 initially.

[TonyRony]

While I'm happy to hear about some of the improvements to Windows that version 7 will bring, I'm getting increasingly annoyed with Microsoft for one simple reason: Microsoft seems to think that users of the operating system will somehow be thrilled/entertained by having to look all over the place for something the user used to know how to find before. And to make matters worse, I understand that choosing the "Windows Classic" theme, as was available in XP and Vista, will not be an option under Windows 7.
Well, that's just great - NOT! You know, some of us just want to get straight to work and get a few things accomplished. Monkeying around, trying to find things all over again is a first class pain in the you-know-what. Allow this analogy, please: Suppose your town's/city's community planners decided they'd like to make your daily driving become a more "exciting" (read "frustrating") experience. Instead of taking all the usual turns at familiar landmarks to reach your regular destinations, the community planners decided to re-arrange everything, thereby requiring that you read every street sign and try to re-calculate whether to turn right, turn left, or keep going straight in order to get to your once-familiar destinations.
No, Microsoft ... I'm not entertained at all! We used to have an expression: "If you can't dazzle your audience with your brilliance, then just baffle them with some B.S.," and that seems to be exactly what Microsoft is doing. Sorry, Microsoft, but I'm not getting Windows 7 if that's what you intend to do to us. Linux is starting to get more attractive all the time.

[Dom2354]

I understand your grief about the layout and yes that can be a pain it the tookish but sometimes things have to change so the overall product can be better. Now I will be the first to say that Microsoft dropped the ball with Vista, but only in the way they handled the way they told us that some machines were Vista capable and rreally weren't. I am a machine builder and every one that

I built ran very well with Vista and the only complaints I had were the same one's you mentioned about layout not performance. I will say this again for the first 2-3 years XP was out people hated it, Microsoft worked on the bugs and 8 years later everyone loves it. If we just give Vista time it also will be considered better then XP and people will complain when it's turn to be retired.

[Dom2354]

Sorry but this is a Windows product and that means it has a registry and that means multioly installs sorry to be the one to tell you.

[amplitude82]

You fail to notice, perhaps from a lack of info, a program called MagicDisc. It's a completely free mounting software and it runs fine in 7.

[BAMT]

EvilDave:

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I have a better challenge!

Install 'WUBI' and play with Linux and free open source software for 72 hours.
http://wubi-installer.org/

I like EvilDave's challenge better.

[TechieXP]

Windows 7 most certainly still has the Classic theme. Where did you hear it didn't?

[Evildave]

Me, too. After all, you don't even have to repartition (well, not until you're ready to delete that Windows partition....)

[Jim1977]

I am not sure why some people consider $125. to be "a ton of money". But they are usually the ones who spend $250. on a graphics card and consider it a bargain. Apparently if it doesn't weigh much, they don't think it is valuable.
Why not use stone tablets instead?

[TonyRony]

Well, I guess you've resolved that issue. I just hope the Classic theme remains available all the way to the release.
I got the idea from a PC Mag article. Perhaps I misunderstood it? The article ("Microsoft Windows 7 Beta 1," Jan 7, 2009, by Michael Muchmore) said, "Though the interface has its own new look, Vista users won't have much to learn. Even upgrading XP users will have little trouble, but neither will they be able to cling to the past. There's no XP emulation Theme in Windows 7, as there is in Vista."
Did I misunderstand what an "emulation theme is"?

[bran1har]

I have a computer running windows xp pro. It has 1.5 GB of RAM and a Intel Pentium 4 HT Processor and Windows 7 installed in lass than 7 hours.