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10 Ways Microsoft's Retail Stores Will Differ From Apple Stores

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 05:39 PM

View PostEnlightenment, on 13 February 2009 - 10:32 AM, said:

All employees will have a SMUG and GAY attitude...oh wait that is Apple.

Only microsoft hardware will be allowed in the store...oh wait that is Apple.

The store won't have any cool games...oh wait that is Apple.


You sir, are an idiot.
Here below, are my replies to your three "affirmations":

If you are a homophobe, you should go back to dark ages, and burn non christians.

your second point is a total fail.

Mac's are not made for games, or idiots like yourself. In fact, if you think that Microsoft PC's are > Macs, explain why in the world do all producers, movie makers, composers use Mac PRO's to make their masterpieces on Apple software like Final Cut and other. ?
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 05:45 PM

View PostTechieXP, on 02 March 2009 - 07:48 AM, said:

God Bless You!.
Its much cooler to wlak down the steet using an iPod with cool white headphones, then to use your phone as an MP# player. Because phones are for talking on...right?

Using car talk is always teh best way to get the point across. I tried it many times. An Apple fan won't get it. Its like you said...a BMW is obviously better then a Ford. But why pay more for a car? It depends on where you live. If I live in a rich surburb, I look out of place if everyone is driving a BMW or a Benz and I am driving a Focus? If I can afford to live in a rich burb, I should be able to look like every1 too. Its simply status.

Here in Chicago downtown we have lots of cafe's where students hang out. There is one college that is most asian students. They all have Macs. One day I ate there an I had my PC. Imagine how out of place I felt at first pulling out my Asus. But once I started playing my game...thay were all standing over my shoulder watching me.

The other commeter said executives use macs while everyone else uses WIndows. Duh. Most companies have how many executives? Lets save 20? versus 5000 employess. 5000 x $1500 is way more than 5000 x $700 to do exactly the same thing. Guys who are rich look better carry a Mac. They didn't buy them because they do more then a PC...because they don't they actually do far less. They bought them to look good and to impress.


At first, sir, I was going to say that I agree with you, unless you said "They didn't buy them because they do more then a PC...because they don't they actually do far less." which is a very inaccurate statement, since a Mac can run any software and any task a microsoft based pc can. How is that? Bootcamp = Smart Mac users have a second OS in case they need to use a software that was not yet written for Mac Os or they want to play a game. And guess what? Windows Vista is known to run much better and faster on a Mac, isn't that ironic?
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 05:54 PM

View Postanon88, on 08 September 2009 - 06:39 PM, said:

View PostEnlightenment, on 13 February 2009 - 10:32 AM, said:

All employees will have a SMUG and GAY attitude...oh wait that is Apple.

Only microsoft hardware will be allowed in the store...oh wait that is Apple.

The store won't have any cool games...oh wait that is Apple.


You sir, are an idiot.
Here below, are my replies to your three "affirmations":

If you are a homophobe, you should go back to dark ages, and burn non christians.

your second point is a total fail.

Mac's are not made for games, or idiots like yourself. In fact, if you think that Microsoft PC's are > Macs, explain why in the world do all producers, movie makers, composers use Mac PRO's to make their masterpieces on Apple software like Final Cut and other. ?


Just a quick correction. Almost every single movie cut with a non-linear editor is cut with Avid Xpress Pro and Media Composer and finished on Avid DS Nitris or Symphony. Many of the higher end effects are done on Flint or Inferno for composites. Only a very small handful of actual movies at the movies were cut on Final Cut Pro. Walter Murch has cut a couple movies on it. A few others have and stated in the media that will never do it again.

While a large percentage of Media Composer users use it on a Mac, about 3x that number use it on a PC of some kind. It's a common lie that is told that Apple owns the media market. They don't. Adobe sells many more copies of every product they publish on the PC. Not the Mac. More Quark users use a PC. More Photoshop users use a PC. Less that 30% of Adobe Premiere users were Mac based, and so Adobe stopped publishing Premiere on the Mac until Apple switched from the PowerPC platform to the intel platform, and that made it easy to port Premiere Pro to the Mac, and so Adobe recently re-released it for the Mac platform.

The thing about Apple and their fan base is this. They make so much noise for such minor acheivements you'd think they did something true awesome. Not so. They love to brag and brag and brag, but they don't own any market except for the MP3 market with the iPod. Blackberry outsells them quarter after quarter, sometimes 2 to 1 for smart phones. If you just count phones in general, Nokia blows everyone away. If you want to compare world wide computer sales, Apple isn't even in the top 5. They have not even made it to 5%. That means of 100 computer users in a room, less than 5 would own a Mac. For all the noise they make, you'd sure think otherwise, huh?

As you said, when it comes to games, their numbers are a drop in the bucket compared to the PC. When it comes to software of any kind, they are marginal. Yet the media buys into all this hype generated by Apple. News sites give Apple a lot of their attention, and why? They are in the minor leagues. Who gives a rats @ss what they are up to? They support very little, cost too much, and basically brag a whole lot about nothing.
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 05:54 PM

Anyhow mates. Like one of you said. The war is not between Apple and Microsoft, but between macfags and pcfags. So what is Microsoft opens a store or two? So did Gateway once. You should remember this phrase: It is better to be copied from, that to copy yourself.
I am disabling my account and never coming back, so feel free to bombard me with senseless, unproven replies stating that Windows > Mac OS.

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 06:00 PM

View Postanon88, on 08 September 2009 - 06:54 PM, said:

Anyhow mates. Like one of you said. The war is not between Apple and Microsoft, but between macfags and pcfags. So what is Microsoft opens a store or two? So did Gateway once. You should remember this phrase: It is better to be copied from, that to copy yourself.
I am disabling my account and never coming back, so feel free to bombard me with senseless, unproven replies stating that Windows > Mac OS.

With love,
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What you are afraid of if Microsoft opens a store? So if it succeeds it's because Apple did it first? Come on... And if it fails, it's because Microsoft is clueless. What do you care one way or the other? How does this harm you in any way shape or form? What are you all bent for?
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 06:04 PM

View Postanon88, on 08 September 2009 - 06:45 PM, said:

View PostTechieXP, on 02 March 2009 - 07:48 AM, said:

God Bless You!.
Its much cooler to wlak down the steet using an iPod with cool white headphones, then to use your phone as an MP# player. Because phones are for talking on...right?

Using car talk is always teh best way to get the point across. I tried it many times. An Apple fan won't get it. Its like you said...a BMW is obviously better then a Ford. But why pay more for a car? It depends on where you live. If I live in a rich surburb, I look out of place if everyone is driving a BMW or a Benz and I am driving a Focus? If I can afford to live in a rich burb, I should be able to look like every1 too. Its simply status.

Here in Chicago downtown we have lots of cafe's where students hang out. There is one college that is most asian students. They all have Macs. One day I ate there an I had my PC. Imagine how out of place I felt at first pulling out my Asus. But once I started playing my game...thay were all standing over my shoulder watching me.

The other commeter said executives use macs while everyone else uses WIndows. Duh. Most companies have how many executives? Lets save 20? versus 5000 employess. 5000 x $1500 is way more than 5000 x $700 to do exactly the same thing. Guys who are rich look better carry a Mac. They didn't buy them because they do more then a PC...because they don't they actually do far less. They bought them to look good and to impress.


At first, sir, I was going to say that I agree with you, unless you said "They didn't buy them because they do more then a PC...because they don't they actually do far less." which is a very inaccurate statement, since a Mac can run any software and any task a microsoft based pc can. How is that? Bootcamp = Smart Mac users have a second OS in case they need to use a software that was not yet written for Mac Os or they want to play a game. And guess what? Windows Vista is known to run much better and faster on a Mac, isn't that ironic?


So you admit Mac users need to use Windows. Once you install Windows on your Mac, which is an overpriced PC, isn't it no different from any other PC? Basically you bought a PC that Apple blessed with OSX. And if you need real software they let you install a real operating system that actually has a useful software catalog. So why do you need two OSes with your Apple computer? I only need one. And mine cost less. You'd have to pay too much for your Mac, get an OS that doesn't do enough, then pay full fair for another OS, and then buy software for that OS too. Yeah, that sounds so ideal.
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 06:17 PM

View PostStalePancake, on 09 September 2009 - 03:04 AM, said:

Yeah, that sounds so ideal.

I think it is ideal... I pick and choose the software that's best for my uses, whether it's Windows or OS X. There were several Mac-only programs that I thought were better than Windows alternatives, but the opposite is also true. In the end, it costs more, but it also saves me time -- and I find my time far more valuable than the small price difference that I paid for a Mac. Maybe I find time more precious because I'm old :)

If you've found that Windows programs work really well for you, there's no reason to change. In my situation, it just didn't work out that way.
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 06:21 PM

View PostNuke61, on 08 September 2009 - 07:17 PM, said:

View PostStalePancake, on 09 September 2009 - 03:04 AM, said:

Yeah, that sounds so ideal.

I think it is ideal... I pick and choose the software that's best for my uses, whether it's Windows or OS X. There were several Mac-only programs that I thought were better than Windows alternatives, but the opposite is also true. In the end, it costs more, but it also saves me time -- and I find my time far more valuable than the small price difference that I paid for a Mac. Maybe I find time more precious because I'm old :)

If you've found that Windows programs work really well for you, there's no reason to change. In my situation, it just didn't work out that way.


Oh, name a few apps that are better on the Mac than the PC?
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 07:11 PM

In my case, the iLife suite was better than what I had or could find on Windows, ditto with Final Cut Express. On Windows I used Pinnacle to capture video, but ended up using the trial version of Sony Vegas to perform some video tasks. Pinnacle simply crashed far too often, typically with larger video files, but it imported video like a champ. Vegas, on the other hand, allowed me to edit perfectly, and never crashed. The problem is that it would not see my video camera.

On Windows I also edited pictures, put them in a photo album, created books and slideshows to DVD -- but it required several programs to accomplish it all. It was clunky and time consuming. That has been replaced with iPhoto for the editing, slideshow creation, and book creation. One export to iDVD and the slideshow gets burned to DVD. I know it's not professional quality software, but I just do this for family and friends. Sometimes I import to DXO Optics Pro, so that adds another step, but that's only if I want to fix camera/lens aberrations first.

TechieXP, if I'm not mistaken, also uses his Mac for video editing, even though he's very much pro-Windows. For the low to middle end video editing, Final Cut and the Express version are very good. If you're into pro-level editing, then Avid is the way to go, but I'm just a rank amateur -- I know it and freely admit it. :)

I liked Vegas a lot, but it just would never see my camera. I even did a re-image without Pinnacle installed and it didn't help. There might be other software out there that works well, but like I said, I value my time much more than money, so it was an easy decision to get a Mac primarily for the software that I mentioned. Oh, I knew about that stuff because I had a Windows PC that I decided to try and get OS X running on -- hackintosh it.
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Posted 19 October 2009 - 09:42 AM

if u enter with anything besides microsoft , you'll be classed as a virus
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Posted 25 October 2009 - 11:04 AM

View Postseilerbird1, on 13 February 2009 - 08:40 AM, said:

You have to feel sorry for Apple fanboys that this is how they waste their lives away proving to the entire world how jealous they are of Microsoft. You could have just bought a real PC to begin with and then you would have a life.

I dont think anyone who actually owns a mac is jealous of PC's at all. at all.
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View Postseilerbird1, on 13 February 2009 - 08:40 AM, said:

You have to feel sorry for Apple fanboys that this is how they waste their lives away proving to the entire world how jealous they are of Microsoft. You could have just bought a real PC to begin with and then you would have a life.

I dont think anyone who actually owns a mac is jealous of PC's at all. at all.


Well I was a mac user once, too. And there was plenty on the PC side that I envied. Eventually I just swiched to being a 100% pc user. I know you like what you have, but admit it or not, the pc has more to offer. You might not need that more, but it's there, and 93% seem to think it's pretty important.
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Posted 25 October 2009 - 05:45 PM

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Well I was a mac user once, too. And there was plenty on the PC side that I envied. Eventually I just swiched to being a 100% pc user. I know you like what you have, but admit it or not, the pc has more to offer. You might not need that more, but it's there, and 93% seem to think it's pretty important.
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View PostKStrawn, on 26 October 2009 - 02:45 AM, said:

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Well I was a mac user once, too. And there was plenty on the PC side that I envied. Eventually I just swiched to being a 100% pc user. I know you like what you have, but admit it or not, the pc has more to offer. You might not need that more, but it's there, and 93% seem to think it's pretty important.
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ROFL - coming from the forums official troll! That is too good... talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
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Posted 25 October 2009 - 06:57 PM

View PostStalePancake, on 25 October 2009 - 09:14 PM, said:

View Postvolumetone, on 25 October 2009 - 12:04 PM, said:

View Postseilerbird1, on 13 February 2009 - 08:40 AM, said:

You have to feel sorry for Apple fanboys that this is how they waste their lives away proving to the entire world how jealous they are of Microsoft. You could have just bought a real PC to begin with and then you would have a life.

I dont think anyone who actually owns a mac is jealous of PC's at all. at all.


Well I was a mac user once, too. And there was plenty on the PC side that I envied. Eventually I just swiched to being a 100% pc user. I know you like what you have, but admit it or not, the pc has more to offer. You might not need that more, but it's there, and 93% seem to think it's pretty important.


Agreed. My first computer was an Apple IIe and it was amazing. I still love that thing and had it not died on me, I think I would still have it around if only to play Oregon Trail. The next computer I had was from Hewett Packard and ran Windows 98, had a whopping 128MB of RAM and a 4GB hard drive too! It was awesome, still works actually (I have it running a firewall on my network). One of my friends had the first iMacs with the CRT monitors, OS8 and hockey puck mouse and I felt no envy for her computer at all. It was clunky and difficult to use, but it looked nice I guess. Ever since that computer, I've been building my own, I even built my friend one for college, the same friend who bought the iMac. I guess there is at least two with PC jealousy.

But why do people have to be so uppity about their OS? As long as you're happy, then there's no reason to be jealous of any OS out there. :)
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