[Tech4me]

coastie. I don't think its a wide spread ....I'm still using IE7 with NO problem with Pcw site at all ......?

Then ...again ...I'm on Vista SP2 RC ....Don't know if It helps...



( Geesss...Now I'm envy you guys with IE8 .....)

[Flashorn]

Hey sweetie !!



OK, now that you have IE8 , to get the IE7Pro back to where it's suppose

to be , you should first , Re-download a fresh copy of IE7PRO then,

goto Control Panel > Programs & Features > Delete old version (or the one that is there)

from your PC or notebook . RESTART your notebook and re-install the IE7 PRO plug-in.



DO NOT START IE8 OR ANY OTHER PROGRAM. JUST THE INSTALLATION PACKAGE FOR IE7 PRO.



When the security program asks if you should install or let the program (IE7PRO) install

a tool bar , say YES!!!, otherwise the little Icon will not appear at the bottom of IE8 .

The little Icon IS the toolbar so , let it install. This is what you should get after installation :

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Once the IE7 PRO is installed , you Might get a "Protected Mode : OFF"

If this happens then Double Click on the "Protected Mode" . A window

will appear . At the bottom of that window , you will see that the check mark

is still in the check box. UNCHECK the check mark and then RE-CHECK

that box . Now Click on the APPLY and OK. Now close IE8 and Re-Start.

Everything should be in it's place.



MAKE SURE TO UNINSTALL THE CURRENT VERSION OF IE7 PRO.

This is because the previous version was a Beta and we always have

to unistall a Beta first. Once IE7 PRO is uninstalled PLZ re-start your

notebook. (this was just a reminder LOL !)



OK sweetie, if there is anything that doesn't work as supposed to then,

I should be here tonight to helpout.



FLASHORN. !http://forums.pcworld.com/legacyimages/
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[WinTard]

Hey, I'm glad IE8 is working for you. I usually don't complain, thus never bothered to report problems with IE7 to the authorities of PCWorld.
Since you Adama, were one of the first to welcome me here to this wonderful PCWorld community, It is with regret that I must say goodbye to all.
I ran into a irreconciliable divergence of philosophy and have decided to retire from PCWorld. Alas. But hey, it was fun while it lasted.
All the best to everyone! Sincerely.
WinTard.
:( :)
~~~~~~~~~~
Don't be sorry it's over. Be happy it happened.
~ Dr. Seuss.

[Adama]

Flashorn said:

Hey sweetie !!





OK, now that you have IE8 , to get the IE7Pro back to where it's suppose


to be , you should first , Re-download a fresh copy of IE7PRO then,


goto Control Panel > Programs & Features > Delete old version (or the one that is there)


from your PC or notebook . RESTART your notebook and re-install the IE7 PRO plug-in.








DO NOT START IE8 OR ANY OTHER PROGRAM. JUST THE INSTALLATION PACKAGE FOR IE7 PRO.








When the security program asks if you should install or let the program (IE7PRO) install


a tool bar , say YES!!!, otherwise the little Icon will not appear at the bottom of IE8 .


The little Icon IS the toolbar so , let it install. This is what you should get after installation :


!http://forums.pcworld.com/legacyimages/

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Once the IE7 PRO is installed , you Might get a "Protected Mode : OFF"


If this happens then Double Click on the "Protected Mode" . A window


will appear . At the bottom of that window , you will see that the check mark


is still in the check box. UNCHECK the check mark and then RE-CHECK


that box . Now Click on the APPLY and OK. Now close IE8 and Re-Start.


Everything should be in it's place.








MAKE SURE TO UNINSTALL THE CURRENT VERSION OF IE7 PRO.


This is because the previous version was a Beta and we always have


to unistall a Beta first. Once IE7 PRO is uninstalled PLZ re-start your


notebook. (this was just a reminder LOL !)








OK sweetie, if there is anything that doesn't work as supposed to then,


I should be here tonight to helpout.








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Good morning, Flash! :D
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I did all those things before you posted this msg. And I did get the Protected Mode: Off thingy. But I freaked out and reset my UAC.

I must have uninstalled and reinstalled IE7Pro 4 times already, and still the same thing = the icon is MIA. The Ad-blocker option is working fine, it's just the icon that is missing.

I even went to the IE7Pro forum and checked out their threads. Seems a lot of people are having problems with IE7Pro and IE8. Anyway, I asked a question and I'll have to go back there to see if there have been any answers.

?:|

BTW, my brand spanking new IE8 has started crashing again - 4 times now - here at PCW. :(

aaarrgghhhh

[Adama]

Hi WinTard,

I'm sorry to hear that you'll be leaving the community, I'm sure many people benefited from your extensive knowledge and your stay here.

I wish you the best. Wherever life takes you, may your journey be filled with fun and goodwill.

[Adama]

Hi Flash!

Well I finally got my IE7 Pro icon back! YAY!!!

I went to their forum to see if anyone had answered my question, and a guy there had said to go to Tools, and then click on IE7 Pro Preferences from there. Then, he said to click on "Show wider IE7 Pro icon display area" and that should take care of the missing icon.

And it did!!! I had to restart Internet Explorer, and when my homepage opened up, my icon is back!

Then I told IE7 Pro not to filter this site, and not to filter the login page. So again, so far so good.

We'll see what happens when I go around PCW a little bit.

Thanks again, Flash! U da best! :D :x

[WinTard]

Hello Adama,

I have reconsidered my leaving this wonderful community; the irreconcilable philosophical differences weren't that um irreconcilable... Thus am glad to say that I will continue being part as an active member of our PCWorld online discussion forums and hope to further contribute and help others and also learn from others to the better extent of my capabilities.

May I sincerely extend my gratitude for your kind words and wishes; upon hearing of my hasty decision to leave (or face the possibility of being banned and showed out the door, and having to justify myself for posting controversial topics summarily deemed 'illegal'). Alas, you will find some of my posts edited with the reason illegal contents removed when in reality they are mere pointers illuminating the existence of commonly known truths on the Internet.

Discovery, learning and simple knowledge in itself cannot ever be bad or illegal. Doing something with that knowledge could be depending if you are the End User, or not.

But as most participants here are civilized self-disciplining members of our community, I believe the entire PCWorld community could lose its dynamic and interesting touch if our members have to walk on egg-shells worrying about what is permissible or not, or worry about being banned for sharing their honest thoughts. We must however pay attention to the Community Standards and play by the rules.

The misunderstanding I ran into hinges on 1) the fundamental right of Freedom of Speech principle and 2) a US Supreme Court final verdict:

Excerpt from: WinTard wrote in http://forums.pcworl...e/199775#199775
{snipped}
People cannot ignore this US Supreme Court ruling:
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,700 for 1984 U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals decision held that a software publisher can't require consumers to run an operating system on a specific type of hardware. (0.35 seconds)
http://www.google.co...ch?hl=en&q=1984U.S.CircuitCourtofAppealsdecisionheldthatasoftwarepublishercan%27trequireconsumerstorunanoperatingsystemonaspecifictypeof+hardware&aq=f&oq=

The exact US Supreme Court case legal precedent is:
Results 1 - 10 of about 446 for Digidyne Corp. v. Data General Corp., 734 F.2d 1336 (9th Cir 1984), cert denied, 473 U.S. 908 (1985). (0.15 seconds)
http://www.google.co...l=en&q=DigidyneCorp.v.DataGeneralCorp.%2C734F.2d1336%289thCir1984%29%2Ccertdenied%2C473U.S.908%281985%29&btnG=GoogleSearch&aq=f&oq=

And the full verdict can be read:
In the public news at New York Times
http://caselaw.lp.fi...&friend=nytimes

At legally oriented websites for law professionals
http://caselaw.lp.fi...l=473&invol=908
{snipped}

With apologies to all for the greatly OT material to this thread.

At least for me, the faith in the openness of PCWorld and fun is back!

PS: IE8 works well doesn't it? Even here at PCWorld. Well at least better than IE7.

~~~~~~~~~~
Truth is the only safe ground to stand on.
~ Elizabeth Cady Stanton

[lilxkid24]

According to http://tech.yahoo.co...ogs/null/128415 ie8 is the slowest browser.

[WinTard]

I know multiple and contradicting opinions abound. My experience is different under Windows 7 beta x64 and IE x64. It is simply the fastest. In all fairness, both Chrome and FF under x64 (64-bit) OS are mere x86 (32-bit) apps. I wonder why?

As far as on topic with this thread, IE8 x86 or x64 doesn't crash for me (yet). And IE8 as it stands under x86 XP, works just as fast as anything else. I don't know about the acid test, but don't really care. What I care about is the ability to accurately represent a majority of the web-pages out there I regularly visit. And IE8 does that job very well IMHO. I've noticed Chrome and FF truncates things and objects off the same fully represented website by IE8. But let's say that IE7 didn't work well on PCWorld and that is an understatement. Is it the browser's fault, or website? Hmmm, food for thought.

~~~~~~~~~~
Smart people know to believe in only half of the `so-called truth?. Wise ones know which half.
{Egyptian Proverb}

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[coastie65]

Hey Win, Hmmm, don't know what happened with your post, but it seems as if you got a little extra in there. As I said in an earlier post, I read all the hype and benchmarks and such, but for me the ultimate test is from hands on experience. coastie

[Tech4me]

Hi WinT ...."Can I call you WinT"........?

"But let's say that IE7 didn't work well on PCWorld and that is an understatement. Is it the browser's fault, or website? Hmmm"

I'd not call its anybody fault ....As you better know ....every piece of pc out there is different ....."1 missed update ....then ...yours is not the same with mine...."

Not to mention all kind of hardware thats in it..... and all of all ...how you use it....

I still use IE7 and have NO problem at all with This site .....You see..."its just what you put in your pc....and how to use it..."

like you said.....(somewhere)....." The problem might be from the chair to the pc " ....Do I say it right ...? ...LOL....

Anyway...Good to see you decided to hang arround with us.....

(Alsway like your 'Quote" collection.)

"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes."

-- Oscar Wilde-

[coastie65]

Hey Tech, :D Now that was a great quote. :D

[WinTard]

Are you talking about the compatibility button, that was the purpose of the image? Also to demonstrate there is some java-script error at the bottom?

[WinTard]

You can call me anything you want my friend!

It's all good.

My experience yesterday with IE8 under XP was horrific. After installation of IE8, the browser stopped working. So I called Microsoft Support 1.800.microsoft, they guided me through the solution over the phone. Within one minute of initiating the call, I was speaking with a support engineer. We skipped all the preliminaries, when I explained what I had done to debug the issue already (and that FF was working...).

1) run msconfig, checkmark the Hide All Microsoft Services, and disable all foreign services.
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2) then disable all startup programs
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Then IE8 worked as expected.

The rest I figured out myself, by re-enabling only the services and programs I needed. And now, instead of running 600~700MB, it only runs 330MB quiescent with everything I really need. And boots twice as fast! Neat uh?

Microsoft free technical support is #1 IMHO. And they followed through with an email, incident #, and all the courtesy expected from a professional organization.

Fifteen minutes later, I was completely running in IE8 with an optimized Windows XP to boot! The real bonus IMHO was to get rid of 50% of RAM consumption crap that got auto-installed by God knows who, from God knows where...

Speaking of which, contrary to appearances, I truly admire Steve Jobs as a legendary luminary pioneer.

If I were in his shoes, I would do no less. Thus totally understand, respect and agree with Apple and their way of doing things. The only things that annoy me are the partisan FUD and fallacies...

Cheers to his genius, business and technical acumen! I sincerely wish him well in his fight for health.

PS: Funny before calling tech support, I did some legwork myself on the Internet (incidentally using FF), and various technical experts explained if I ever installed a beta version of IE8, with SP3 installed, the only solution was to reload XP from scratch! LOL! Well I did install the beta, which didn't work, but wasn't prepared to cold-metal reload my workstation over that. I'm glad I called Microsoft instead.

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Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.
~ Steve Jobs

(A most excellent quote provided to me by my good friend SkateNY.)

[adnana1024]

Download Firefox.

[WinTard]

Hey, I already use the latest FireFox 3.0.7. Especially under Linux and other operating platforms (Solaris, HP-UX, Aix ...)

And the above msconfig also fixed Google's Chrome for me! Yes, for some obscure reason, Chrome stopped working on my laptop a couple of months ago. But FF and IE were browsing just fine.

My suspicion is the Cisco VPN tunelling protocol stack virtual adapter, but I'll figure it out in time. Maniana!...

I only fix what's needed at the moment.

~~~~~~~~~~
Better have and not need it, than need it and not have it.

[Flashorn]

Hey sweetie !!



Ok, I forgot !!!

I totally forgot about the Preferences in tools . I don't know why . Must be the age thing.

Glad all is well for you now. Did you find any differences between the previous version of

IE7 PRO with this one or is all about the same and are you still able to block those adds

and Flash ?



FLASHORN.

[WinTard]

Oh just out of curiosity here are my interactions with Microsoft, for those who have not experienced it.

As per Community Standards regulations, all personal identifications or email addresses have been obfuscated and/or removed.

First a very cordial feedback:

From: NA Windows Connectivity - Frontline CVG PUN [WINDO.WNXP.NA.00.EN.CVG.PUN.TS.1FL.PBA.CT.PI@css.one.microsoft.com]
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 13:38
To: WinTard
Subject: SRX1x9x4x7x8xID - SRX1x9x4x7x8x

Hi WinTard,
This is Bimal xxxxxx with Microsoft Windows Technical Support.
It was my pleasure to work with you on your Windows service request 1x9x4x7x8x. I hope that you were happy with the service provided to you.
Based on our last conversation it appears that this service request is resolved and ready to be archived. If this is not correct or if you are not happy with the support we've provided please let us know as soon as possible. My goal is to ensure that your experience with Microsoft Windows Technical Support leaves you pleased with our products and services.
Here is a summary of the key points of the service request for your records:
ACTION :You were trying to access internet explorer
RESULT :You were unable to open internet explorer
CAUSE :Some third party service
RESOLUTION :We disabled all the third party services and were able to access internet explorer
If you have any feedback regarding Microsoft support, we would be glad to hear from you. If you would feel more comfortable speaking with someone else regarding my service, Gauri xxxxxxxxxx, my manager, would be very happy to hear your comments and suggestions. You may reach my manager by sending an email to xxxxxxx@mssupport.microsoft.com
Thank you for contacting Microsoft Windows Technical Support.
Sincerely,
Bimal xxxxx
xxxxx@mssupport.microsoft.com
Work Hours 0700-1600 hrs PST
When replying please include your service request number, name, email address and phone number. Thank you.
Enabling Microsoft Update and keeping your computer up-to-date will give you the best possible experience with Windows. Microsoft Update offers you free updates for Windows and other Microsoft software. There are two simple steps you can take to get up-to-date:
1. Enable Microsoft Update and make sure that automatic updating is turned on, click here: http://go.microsoft..../?LinkId=135954
2. Check for updates and new software available to you through Microsoft Update, click here: http://update.microsoft.com/

And a very nice follow-up requesting customer's feedback:

From: noreply@telesight.com [noreply@telesight.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 14:22
To: WinTard
Subject: Microsoft Customer Satisfaction Survey

Dear Microsoft Customer:

Microsoft is committed to delivering the highest quality support services to all its customers. Your feedback on the level of support service you received will help us improve our service quality. Please take a few minutes now to complete a brief web-based survey regarding your satisfaction with the support you requested about Windows XP Professional EN closed on 2009-03-23T17:32:26.843. The case number was 1x9x4x7x8x.

To complete a survey, please go to http://www.tsisurvey...=AN1x0x4x8x3x5x

This survey link expires in 10 days on 4/3/2009.

Please do not reply to this email as the mailbox is not monitored. If you have any questions about your support case, please contact the original support channel. If you have any issues with accessing or completing the survey, please send us an email at MSSurveys@telesight.com.

This message was sent to WinTard because either you or someone else using this email address has recently interacted with Microsoft Assisted Support. If you would like to be removed from the Microsoft Assisted Support Customer Satisfaction Survey mailing list, please click here. We will promptly update your preferences; however, you may receive previously initiated invitations during that period.

To set your contact preferences for other Microsoft communications, see the communications section of the Microsoft Privacy Statement. This e-mail was sent on behalf of Microsoft Corporation through TeleSight, Inc., a marketing research firm commissioned by Microsoft to conduct this study.

Microsoft Corporation: Microsoft Corporation, One Microsoft Way Redmond, WA 98052, Telephone (425) 882-8080

That is why I appreciate and respect Microsoft. Professionals all the way. For free! But most importantly, they fixed my self-caused issues within 15 minutes of my call, on the first call.

Hey, credit where credit is due.

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Your most unhappy customers are your greatest source of learning.
~ Bill Gates
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While I'm waiting in the customer lounge at my car dealership:

[Adama]

I can appreciate that you're very happy with MSFT's assistance, however, you might want to start your own blog about it and then I can get back to get answers on my real problem here. Thank you.

[Adama]

Hi Flash!

Actually, I am not really happy with IE7 Pro at the moment. Yeah, it's working well and yeah it's blocking the ads, etc., but I think it's causing a lot more problems than fixing them.

For example: Ever since I downloaded the latest version, I've had nothing but problems with PCW site. It's gotten to the point where even today I'm having Internet Explorer crashing again, and every time that I go to answer a post here, or try to go to a different thread, Explorer either crashes, or says it can't find the page!

So, even under the good all-mighty Internet Explorer 8 I'M STILL HAVING PROBLEMS! I have the feeling it is directly related to IE7 Pro.

A couple of days ago when I downloaded IE8 it was working at lightning speed, but I think it's because I had uninstalled IE7 Pro. Now I'm having humongous slowdowns again with IE7 Pro installed.

I know that you're using IE8 for right now, so how come YOU are not having problems with IE7 Pro?

Some time last year I did try WOT, but I had sooo many problems with it that I had to uninstall it. It was not compatible with Vista. Do you think that the new version of WOT will work well with the new IE8???

Soo many questions.... so little time... :(

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That's me again! X-(