[Foxylady48180]

I wasn't trying to critisize. I am sure you run XP and Windows 7 just as fast. I only was pointing out that no matter what OS you are running, it won't run real fast on 1 gig. if you are trying to do anything. As to figuring me out; forget it- you never will.

[Foxylady48180]

You post some neat stuff; where do you get it all?

[asiafish]

7 runs fine in 1GB as does Vista, but that depends entirely on what else you are doing. I had Vista running on a Celeron ThinkPad with 1GB RAM and it was quite sluggish, until I disabled Aero and the sidebar and set a fixed pagefile. If I ran only one or two applications of moderate size the system was perfectly responsive, such as Word and Internet Explorer, but adding Acrobat or Outlook to the mix would slow it down a bit, though it was still quite usable. XP is quite nice with 1GB RAM and Windows 2000 is practically swimming in memory at the 1GB mark.

Its all about you actual applications (older versions usually require less resources) and your workflow.

[WinTard]

Good question! I don't know the answer to that... But I am merely a random thinker, a technocrat butterfly if you wish... I read a lot, I mean A LOT. And am honored to learn and share alike with intelligent people everywhere. I came to PCWorld just to expand my horizons, and think our little community is PRICELESS! :) Oh, I can type faster than I can write with a pen. And I can speak faster than I can type. And also think much faster that either typing or talking... I am tarded I/O bound... But hey it's fun! And that's all that matters. Did you know the brain is the single organ dissipating and consuming most energy in the entire human body? In case I didn't welcome you, Welcome Foxylady48180! I hope your stay with us will be a fun and interesting one. Please enjoy your discoveries with all of us! Thank you.

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Energy follows thought; we can strive towards but not beyond what we can imagine, visualize and believe in.
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Coincidences are God's way of remaining anonymous.
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What you can?t, you must.
~ Tony Robbins

If at first an idea isn't absurd, there's no hope for it.
~ Albert Einstein

Tough times don't last, but tough people do.
~ Source Unknown

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Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.
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A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?
~ Albert Einstein

Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.
~ Sci

[dlauber]

Frustratingly so far I've been unable to get Windows 7 to allow me to set up a pan-and-scan virtual desktop with my ATI video card (even with Windows 7 drivers from ATI). We're very dependent on this feature and will continue to use Windows XP if Windows 7 won't allow us to use it.

[WinTard]

Of course it will allow pan and scan. If Windows XP can do it, Windows 7 also can! Your problem is ATi being too lame for providing proper WHQL drivers to Microsoft for Windows 7. That feature works straight on my Windows 7 using the nVidia drivers...

I like ATi for their hardware, but their software always sucks! Since day one! Google: Results 1 - 10 of about 1,800,000 for how many Ati software drivers. (0.23 seconds)

Whereas, one single unified driver at nVidia does the trick. WHQL certified no less!

So unless your ATi chipset falls within, you're out of luck, thanks to ATi.
support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx

h1. Graphics Drivers & Software

Please select your operating system, product family and the product and then
select GO.

||Professional / Home 64-Bit Edition
Media Center Edition 32-Bit Edition 64-Bit Edition
32-Bit Edition 64-Bit
Edition Professional Linux x86 Linux x86_64
MAC OS
X10.4.x MAC OS X10.3.x MAC OS X10.2.x Windows XP
Windows ME 98|RadeonMobility RadeonIntegrated/Motherboard| |Radeon HD 4800 SeriesRadeon HD 4600 SeriesRadeon HD 4550 SeriesRadeon HD 4350 SeriesRadeon HD 3870 SeriesRadeon HD 3850Radeon HD 3600 SeriesRadeon HD 3400 SeriesRadeon HD 2900 SeriesRadeon HD 2600 Series (PCIe)Radeon HD 2400 Series (PCIe)|
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[cubbage]

Yes and no. We have not had a hardware refresh since 2006 so this may or may not be true. We are not scheduled for any hardware refresh at the moment either, economy is killing any refresh.

[Foxylady48180]

Thank you. After reading all the other stuff, you are the first one , so far, that made any sense at all. However, 18 computers fails me. I have all the trouble I can handle with one.As to Windows7 using less memory than Vista; that's good news as that was one of the biggest complaints I've seen.(System Hog) Another was drivers, but I think 3rd. party vendors cought up with that to a large degree.

[Foxylady48180]

IT Departments don;t run the company and if the company wants it done, used PC's or that is what will happen.

[cubbage]

Maybe, if the economy is in the gutter like it is now you can bet that no one will be upgrading PC's just because there is a new OS out let alone buying a new OS that will reguire some retraining of employees.

I work for a university and right now they are debating on furloughs, salary reductions and doing away with positions all together. There is a hiring freeze for faculty and a discussion on whether to freeze staff positions also.

[ImaPhake]

"I wasn't trying to critisize. I am sure you run XP and Windows 7 just as fast. I only was pointing out that no matter what OS you are running, it won't run real fast on 1 gig. if you are trying to do anything. "



If you run an application (or applications) which use all of the 1Gb of RAM, then yes, ti will run slower. Another tweak I use to help limit slowdowns is putting the virtual RAM (swap drive) on a secondary hard drive and not on the primary. 2Gb of virtual memory on the secondary drive eliminates "disk thrashing" which will slow down your machine if it is on the primary drive. I rarely use all of that 1Gb of RAM regardless, except when rendering video or running more than three apps at the same time. I tend to avoid using apps like Adobe's bloated PDF reader and use the Foxit PDF Reader instead for example. Running a gaming machine also means disabling unneeded Services and start-ups which increases the amount of RAM available. To the horror of many, I don't even use an AV app. AV apps are one of the main culprits that slow down a machine more than anything else.

Running a "fast" machine is a relative term depending on what you do with that machine.

Also, I never try to figure out people on the Internet -- it would be like reading the lyrics of a song without knowing the music which belongs with it. :)

[ImaPhake]

"May I call you my friend? "

From one Win "tard" to another, I thought it was a given. :)

[WinTard]

Given it is my friend! :x

[ImaPhake]

"Of course it will allow pan and scan. If Windows XP can do it, Windows 7 also can! Your problem is ATi being too lame for providing proper WHQL drivers to Microsoft for Windows 7. That feature works straight on my Windows 7 using the nVidia drivers..."

ATI doesn't even provide a Windows 7 compatible driver for my old 9700 Pro -- I have to use the default driver provided by Microsoft. It works, so I'm not complaining.

The 9700 Pro I use has a TV tuner with it, and I also have the Hauppauge WinTV card. For a long time I could record two television programs at the same time (on separate drives) and I was in "TiVo Heaven." Then the day came when an ATI Catalyst driver update was not compatible with their own Media Center application and the ATI tuner refused to detect any RF video coming into it (audio was fine, though). Now, if I want to use both tuners at the same time I have to use an older video driver from ATI. One of these days I might try the third-party Omega drivers to see if anything from them works differently from ATI's "latest and greatest" drivers.

Anyway...blathering aside, I will build a new machine for gaming after Windows 7 is officially released. The old VAIO can't run most of the games released in the past year or so and XP doesn't handle DirctX 10 (and above) anyway, so that is another thing which will "finally kill XP" a lot faster than anything else mentioned in this PC World article. Anyone running Windows 7 should run a dxdiag and look at the version of DirctX it says you have on that machine -- it should say 11 (even though there isn't anything using it yet).

[WinTard]

I'm sorry you are experiencing troubles with your ATi software... Yes the hardware is EXCELLENT !

So you mean the NVIDIA Driver update for NVIDIA Quadro NVS 135M (Prerelease - WDDM 1.1) ? That's DirectX 11 I presume ? :)



Well, just for fun, I'm about to reinstall Windows 7 Ultimate x64 beta. This is beta testing after all...

PS: Nice crisp clear fonts in IE8 eh? Love this ClearType technology used in IE.

[Foxylady48180]

I understand by reading thru this stuff the Lenix has 1% of the market and Mac has 10%. (don;t know if that is exact) Can you tell me the breakdown for XP and VISTA. Since we are talking about killing XP, I would like to have some idea of the bodycount.

[artzy65]

Why don't you just google that info?
Anywho, recent stats show XP dropping to 58% and vista finally reaching 30%
http://www.electroni...c.market.share/

[Foxylady48180]

Thank you for the info; as to your question, I'm not a computer whiz and I don't know how to "Google" anything.

[artzy65]

You don't have to be a whiz... just go to google search engine and enter relevant key words... I used 'xp vista market share' and had the answer a few seconds after i read your earlier post.

[WinTard]

Googling is simple. You just type your question. like: market share of windows xp (without quotes)
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,540,000 for market share of windows xp. (0.25 seconds)

or market share of windows vista

Results 1 - 10 of about 2,790,000 for market share of windows vista. (0.56 seconds)

Then read away...

Computers and IT are really simple.

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To learn how to use Google, simply click on about: http://www.google.co...l/en/about.html

Under About, you will see: Help: http://www.google.com/support/?hl=en

Under Help you will see: Web Search Help: http://www.google.co...ebsearch/?hl=en

Then you will find Basic Search Help: http://www.google.co...34479&topic=351

Then you go from there... :)