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[zak2007]

I've tried Vista for over a year now, and it is the best OS MS ever made. No crashes no problems with drivers, and works fast.
Did you try to give your PCs running Vista what you gave your MACs (8GB etc)?
I'm sure you didn't. MAC are excellent for design but it was your fault to go PC for that job, bashing MS for you bad choice does not good to you.
Also you should be specific in your title:
"Which is better for your design business?"

[ragreen]

I will agree upgrading to Vista
created problems, but I have two new Vista boxes and NO problems.
We have a MAC at church, and I was asked to install MS with bootcamp as most
people who are familiar with Windows see MAC OS as foreign as LINUX.

[TyrenJay]

your business model is still lagging you still have to pay for MS licensing when you use Outlook,Office and now parellels you could have easily used Groupwise rather than outlook its quicker and lighter and open office as oppose to MS office.

[dbgman]

I do not know why you would spend 2-3 times more for a mac to run pc software. It does not make sense.
I have my computer running dual boot XP and Vista. I have not booted up to XP in over a year. Vista Rocks!!
I can buy the two or three of the same horsepower pcs to one Mac. They are overpriced and overrated.
If Apple OS is so good then why don't they let you buy the software and put it on any box??

[justintcarroll]

Shame on you Mr. CEO for spreading such horrible misinformation. I hate to break it to you but the MAC that you say runs Windows so much better than a PC is an Intel based system. Let me translate for you..... Its a PC in itself. MAC is and always has been well known for its excellence in graphics and music applications. It may work great for you but it certainly isnt the best solution for all interested in increasing productivity. I suppose you will claim that your Microsoft Office suite runs 30% faster on the (pc based) MAC that you just acquired in the neighborhood of $4000? You make me laugh, the same way I chuckle when people who have never used Vista say how bad it is etc. They feel compelled to talk like they are educated on the subject after receiving their 30 second schooling in the form of a slanted MAC commercial. You funny guy you. Let your IT guy write these articles from now on and you stick to your masterful and ever so resource intensive Powerpoint / Keynote presentations.

[flatrock19]

Daily reboots of Windows XP? I sometimes shut my machine down on the weekends, sometimes I don't.
I have had occasional crashes. Roughly once a month. They seem to be related to a buggy Nvidia driver. There is probably a new driver that fixes the problem by now.
My iTouch crashes about as often as my PC, and I use it far less.
Either this person is greatly exaggerating the problems he had under Windows, or he had some crappy hardware or a buggy third party driver.
With Apple you are very likely to get a solid system. You get less choices, but if what they have meets your needs well extra choices just lead to extra potential problems.
It wouldn't take a big increase in productivity to pay for the extra cost of an Apple computer. So if your IT department can't seem to select and configure reliable PCs then Apple may be a reasonable alternative.
However, if you're having to reboot your PC running Windows XP daily, you've got problems that aren't related to the operating system itself.

[bookofrage]

Well your spending 3000$ on a mac. which is proably 4 time more than what you spend on a pc. Even if you spend more half or a litte more, vista wouldnt crash and windows will run smoothly.
i dont see you comparing 3000$ computer to a 600-800$ computer to be fair. its you saying your sports car is faster than your mini van.

[sma92878]

Honestly this is one of the most ridiculous posts I've read. If you're an "IT" guy you should know how to build a system. I built my Quad Core, 8Gb, work station for around 800$.
When I go to school to work on Adobe products they simply crawl, and the boxes where well over $2000.00. Lets not even start to talk about that the new version of the Adobe CS suit (CS4) is 64bit for ONLY windows.
The problem people have is that Vista should have been released as ONLY a 64bit OS. Why do people complain about Windows and software compatibility with Vista when they seem to forget that when Mac went to OS-X none of the software worked with out a VM...
It's fairly clear you're not the "IT" guru you claim to be.
P.S. The Macs I work on crash more then my Vista box, in fact my Vista box has NEVER crashed because I use QUALITY hardware and drivers.

[Majamba]

Well I got to say it is neccessary to pay so much money just to update to macs
let me telly few things about the macs because i also own one, they are less secure than windows and linux, their operating works most of time but if you see it to much such as me then osx for some reasons gives to often the spod
well i felt like trying ubuntu works like cake. The the software is free it is easy to install and set up and there seems to be alternative to every application with jaunty release on 23 Ubuntu just got much better

[flatrock19]

I agree that you can spend a lot less on a Windows system and still get a solid, reliable system. However, if you need higher end systems, the price difference shrinks somewhat.

There are niche markets, where the systems Apple sells fit wel, in which the price premium for an Apple computer that suits their needs is much smaller.

If you have a need for higher end systems you are also likely paying higher wages. If you can gain productivity because what Apple does well is what you need, or simply because your people work better with it for some reason, then buying Apple computers can make sense.

However, for most companies, buying everyone Apple computers is not a reasonable choice. But if for your company Apple computers happen to be the right tool for the job, then use them. Same can be said for running Linux on the desktop. There are situations where it works.

[cjarboe]

wow, that was a waste of time reading this. To say that Vista is the worst OS ever made is ridiculous and why buy a MAC if you're just going to run Windows on it? You spent way too much money on equipment that would run any OS wonderfully.

[TyrenJay]

I say if your IT shop can function without windows go for it. i realize you work in a non-secure envoriment but for me i work in an IT shop that would flat-line without Novell or Linux its security suicide IMO to just use windows. Windows is just used in my shop for Active Directory and GPO policies and for users but most all sensitive information is SUSE,REDHAT,or NOVELL .

[buddesatva]

Windows based PC is a better machine for business and home use, hands down. Vista running on a 64 bit machine is a superior OS, note the caveat. Vista 64 bit with Office 2007 rocks. Remove any of those pieces and it all falls down. The Mac is fine for some applications but is not suitable for most users, beside the fact that it is expensive to buy and to build (software).

[PDoyle]

Hahah when you say sports car for 3000 and mini van for 600-800 that actually doesnt make any sense because in car sense in mini van and sports car world yes but the poing he is getting at 3000 dollars on a MAC and 600 to 800 on a pc will buy you the same thing. they both operate the same and the pc probably will be a little better.

[bookofrage]

the point was the engine size is totally difference hence the performance. If is using 8 gig of ram any machine core2 or quad with 8 gig is smooth sailing and i doubt it will crash unless misused. If you would have identical hardware on both and then run a test and still complain mac is better that would have been a better article

[illathruz]

You use Parallels to run MS Office??? What a waste of time. MS office has been compatible with OS X for years. I grew up on Windows too (I started out with windows 3.11) and can tell you that you can safely ditch windows all together. Especially if Office is all that you use the Windows for anyway.

[luvwknd69]

Okay, you say for business right? Mac's are toys plain and simple! Setup a 5000 user Mac domain and attempt to centrally manage all the Mac's and devices on that domain and then tell me what platform is Enterprise and which is for home users to play with!
This is only ONE set back you will find in the Mac world, there are many of them thus the reason Corporate America uses PC's and not Macs! What, Mac now has almost 10% of the market share, taht is after what 30 years? That alone should tell you something!
Whoever wrote this article is not telling the truth!

[Styles]

Is this a JOKE? PCWorld pushing Macs?

We actually did the complete OPPOSITE! We USED to be all Mac, then went to all PC.

Our logic was the same - Macs are easy, people will be more productive. Right? Wrong!

The fact is that almost ALL new employees came thru the door with PC experience!

We actually had to TRAIN new employees on how to use the "easy" Macs! Something we never had to do with PCs.

We also had to deal with 2nd rate applications and issues sharing files with PCs (even though it's SUPPOSED to be seamless).

What's "easy" is a computer people already know how to use.

[FLWOLFPACKE]

Small wonder that you found such a non receptive audience at PCWORLD. I suspect most of their readers are dedicated PCers. You probably would have found a more receptive audience at MACWORLD!
After using PCs from inception until I retired in late 2003, I switched to MACs and never looked back. My 4 1/2 year old Powerbook (with max ram) still serves me well as a laptop. Never had a virus, never had to defrag, rarely had to reboot. My almost new MACPRO is just as solid and much faster. I have no reason to doubt your productivity gains even though I have not used a PC in years. I somehow doubt that Microsoft has caught up with Apple in reliability, ease of use, and freedom from required maintenance.