TechieXP said:
My first car after high school was a used 318i. I earned it because I agreed to go through 4 years of high school without and allowance and lunch money for school for 4 years and I also worked a part time job throsing papers as a junior and I worked at McDonald's making 3.35hr as a senior. And I wanted to go to college and I wanted to be impressive. It was a very nice car...but there were better ones even then and even now. I am not saying they are bad cars. I said there are bettering ones that cost only 1/2 as much...OH and tha car..even the simpleset of repair cost way to much. Example...it cost me close to $1200 to get 4 brake rotors replaces and pads....my dad had a Chrysler that had 4 wheeled disks...he paid just over 1/2 to get the same work done.
You can't complain about reliability on a used car. Did the previous owner abuse it? You just don't know. Most 318i BMWs are extremely reliable. Sure, they cost three times as much to fix as an American car, but they break down only 1/3 as often.
Quote
Yes they ride somooth. Yes they are quiet. And yes when they break they cost more. After that car I refused to buy another import. However when I settle down I boguth 1 more. I bought a Hyundai. Of course they are so much better now. Look the Genesis won JD Power and Associates rewards. It passed a 5 start crash test..the same one the 5 series BMW which cost 2x's as much failed.I can get a Lexus and pay less and still have a car that on many levels is better. The car I drive now? 300M? It has space. Lots of it..without buying some over-priced import. I like it becaus eit is cury...compared to its boxy sibling the 300C. I put 20 inchs rim on it that are wide and use low profile tires to make it ride even smoother and I added a moon-rrof and spoiler to give it a more sporty look. And I bet it rides just as nice as your car and it cost me less than $25k to have it all. What did you pay? And it still only takes me 3 1/2 tanks of gas to drive too my old place in Sarasota Florida from Chicago.
Clearly you know nothing about cars. Low profile tires and massive rims do NOT make a car ride smoother, any car. Those things may be stylish to some, but they do the exact opposite of what you claim they do. The lower the profile on the tires, the harsher and LESS comfortable the ride.
If you Think Chrysler is such an outstanding car company, just open up the financial section of any recent newspaper. The fact is, for a car company to do well, the first requirement is good cars. Chrysler has failed miserably in the last decade.
As for the Genesis, yes, its a very nice car, but it is $40,000, not $25,000. It is the exact same formula that Lexus used in 1989, big and fancy at a 10-15% lower price than the established brands. Lexus did that for 5 or 6 years, but these days costs the same as its competitors because they no longer have to sell on price alone. The Hyundai genesis is a very impressive car. It is as nicely equipped and rides as smoothly as a Mercedes, but it is still not as solid as a Mercedes. It handles far better than any front-drive car could, but it still doesn't handle with the magic of a BMW. It is a fabulous bargain, but nobody would pick it over a comparable BMW or Mercedes without that price advantage. Maybe in the future, this is after all their first entry into the premium class, and a very impressive debut, but the Lexus GS (the car closest in character to the Genesis and Hyundai's design bogey) is still a BETTER, though more expensive car.
Quote
I never liked big cars...as I always like smaller 4 cylinders...then after getting this car I won't even go back to a 4 cylinder. My next car will only have 2 doors. Will be American made...and it will still cost less then an import. Will have agreesive styling and more. All for less. Even if I made 6 figures like you do, I still wouldn't drive a Benz or Mercedes. Those cars are driven for status not need. It is your taste in cars...I respect your taste. I'm surprised you don't drive a Jaq or a Porsche. Again if you can afford an expensive car...you can afford the cost of the repairs. However you notice something with people who own those? They don't drive them everyday...and they try to only drive them in rural or suburban areas. Why? Because the cost for maintence and repairs is skyhigh. If I can't drive a car everyday...if I have to be scared if someone hits me...then I don't want to own it. Just like a computer. If I drop my pc its nice to know it is covered @ no extra cost. Can you say that? My car is less likely to get stolen. Can you say that? And my repairs don't cost an arm and a leg...can you say that? Just because you make a lot of money doesn't mean you have to waste it. I personally know the value of money...I grew up in a poor family. Now that I have...I don't want to be without. However I could survive on very little...Can you say that?
Don't drive them everyday? Who says? I drive my Mercedes every day. I currently have 72,000 trouble-free miles on my Mercedes. It has never needed anything other than regular scheduled maintenance, one set of brake pads and two sets of tires (I run summer sport tires, they wear quick). I've had my car on the race track four times (3 at Willow Springs and once at Laguna Seca), have driven it up to 130 MPH on the track, and have driven 1100 miles in a single day. Oh, I get 34 miles per gallon on the highway and the car still looks and feels brand new even after 72,000 miles of use.
My wife's 2007 Camry went back to the dealer for wind leaks, an annoying rattle in the dashboard, a power driver seat that stopped working and an air conditioning condenser that seized up. That car was under warranty, so the repairs were free, but it was far more troublesome in the 30,000 miles we kept it than my Mercedes was in 72,000, and at the end of our lease the car felt loose and sloppy. Toyota usually makes an excellent car, but we were very underwhelmed with our 07 Camry and replaced it with a new BMW, which thus far in 10,000 miles has needed nothing except gas.
Mercedes Benz has a MILLION MILE CLUB because Mercedes cars are famous for lasting longer than their owners. They are over-engineered. There is a solidity you feel in driving a Mercedes Benz that just screams quality. Why do other car companies give you free roadside assistance for the warranty period while Mercedes Benz gives you free roadside assistance FOR LIFE, even in someone else's Mercedes Benz? Simple, they are extremely high quality cars, rarely break down if properly maintained, and clearly cost very little to support. If Chrysler tried to give free lifetime roadside assistance they would be bankrupt. Oh wait, they already are bankrupt.
Quote
I am curious. If the USa closed its borders..and didn't allow imports....what would you drive? I could be happy with a SMART car...could you? I am not impressed by ,uxury items. They are nice to have for those who choose to buy them. I have no problem with people spending money on expensive things. It isn't my money why do I car. I just find it funny when I see them on the side of the road asking for a jump in the middle of Winter. All that extra money and the car still won't start. Wow for 50 grand you'd think they give you a better battery.
Smart car is desiged and built by Mercedes Benz (styled by Swatch). I don't need an import, but I prefer them for the reasons mentioned above. I frequently drive 1000+ mile days and for that kind of driving, nothing beats the firm seats and solid ride of a Mercedes Benz. I like sporty handling and would actually prefer a BMW for that reason, but I spend too much time in the car and thus Mercedes has earned my business, three times in a row now. When I buy my next car, I will again compare, but just like Apple and Lenovo for laptops, Mercedes Benz is the standard that I start with.
By the way, I've given plenty of jumps to people driving all sorts of cars. Fact is, a car battery is good for 2 to 4 years under normal conditions, and will last longer or shorter depending on a variety of factors. There is no such thing as a better battery technology, they all use the exact same technology and will wear out at the same rate. Now there are different quality levels of batteries, but car manufacturers provide the good ones, even in cheap cars because they want the battery to last longer than the warranty, and since even the skimpiest warranties (Honda and Toyota, strangely enough) are three years, that means only a top-quality battery will do.
My Ford truck is almost 3-years-old and has 49,000 miles on it. It has the original battery and it is still very strong. My Mercedes Benz is almost 5-year-old with 72,000 miles on it, and it too still has the original battery. That battery still starts the car immediately, but as a rule I replace a car battery on its 5th birthday. Oh, that Mercedes battery, odd-size that only fits Mercedes (battery is in the rear next to the full-sized spare) only costs $160. More expensive than the F-150's battery, but not in any way outrageous.