[Sleuth]

hey, i've been getting these BSOD's over the past month, and i have no idea what they mean or what to do about them.

I'm running vista premium, by the way.

this is the most frequent one (comes up at startup)



A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.

DRIVERIRQLNOTLESSOR_EQUAL

If this is the first time you have seen this stop error screen, restart your computer. if this screen appears again, follow these steps:

blahblahblahblahblahblah...........................

Technical information:

* STOP: 0x000000d1 (0x000000B0,0x00000002, 0x00000001, 0x8C879e6e)

* tcp1p.sys - Address 8C879e6e base at 8c80F000, Datestamp 4812c4f1

Collecting data for crash dump...

blahblahblah

_

This one has just started to come up-



A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.

PAGEFAULTINNONPAGEDAREA

blahb lahblahblahblah...

Technocal infornation-

* STOP: 0x0000008e (0xC0000005, 0x85405381, 0x87f32458, 0x00000000)

* wimFsf.sys - Address 85405381 base at85401000, DateStamp 4549ad99

collecting data for crash dump...

blahblahblahblahblahblah



can anyone help me? any info as to the problem and/or solution would be appreciated. Thanks

[crazy4laptops]

a couple questions-

how old is your computer?

how much ram is in the system?

are you running 32 bit or 64 bit?

the first one might be related to the network card driver...

(boot into safe mode and uninstall/update the driver)

the second one, might be an issue with your ram, or your hdd has bad sectors (is this one random or does it happen when you do something specific?)

if you have alot of ram, pop out one of the sticks and boot up,(if you get the bsod still, swap out the ram)

[smax013]

Sleuth said:

hey, i've been getting these BSOD's over the past month, and i have no idea what they mean or what to do about them.


I'm running vista premium, by the way.


this is the most frequent one (comes up at startup)





A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.


DRIVERIRQLNOTLESSOR_EQUAL


If this is the first time you have seen this stop error screen, restart your computer. if this screen appears again, follow these steps:


blahblahblahblahblahblah...........................


Technical information:


* STOP: 0x000000d1 (0x000000B0,0x00000002, 0x00000001, 0x8C879e6e)


* tcp1p.sys - Address 8C879e6e base at 8c80F000, Datestamp 4812c4f1


Collecting data for crash dump...


blahblahblah

Might see if this helps with this one: http://aumha.org/a/stop.php#0xd1

Quote

_


This one has just started to come up-





A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.


PAGEFAULTINNONPAGEDAREA


blahb lahblahblahblah...


Technocal infornation-


* STOP: 0x0000008e (0xC0000005, 0x85405381, 0x87f32458, 0x00000000)


* wimFsf.sys - Address 85405381 base at85401000, DateStamp 4549ad99


collecting data for crash dump...


blahblahblahblahblahblah





can anyone help me? any info as to the problem and/or solution would be appreciated. Thanks

Might see if this one helps the second one: http://aumha.org/a/stop.php#0x50

[Sleuth]

i dont know if im running 32 or 64 bit, is there any way i can find this out?

My PC is an HP Pavillion a6200n (got it about one and a half years ago)

AMD athlon X2 5000+

2 gigs of ram

onboard nVidia 6150 LE graphics (which suck)

360 gig hard drive

[crazy4laptops]

the processor is 64-bit, so your operating system might also be x64

to see if you are running in 32 or 64bit heres what to do

click on the start orb button > right mouse on computer > select properties > look in the system section (middle of the page)

[Sleuth]

yes, my OS is 64 bit. people have been telling me that it could be the onboard graphics failing. does anyone know if this is true or false and/or what the problem is?

[techie4fun]

Are your graphics drivers up-to-date?

[crazy4laptops]

your BSoD is not related to graphics... just your network card driver (check for updates) and possibly a dying hard drive

[Sleuth]

thanks, ill see if thats the problem. anyone else have any suggestions?

[tek101]

Might be too much junk ....and many broken-invalid registies.....?

Try a simple cleaning first ...: www.ccleaner.com/download ....

[Grr8008]

If it is a dying hard drive, amazon has good ones for incredibly cheap prices. I will research if you want.

[eMJay]

The problem is likely to be failing Ram, especially if -


- BSODs occur at random, even when the PC is idle.


- the BSOD messages are also random rather than repetitive i.e. you tend to see different messages related to different drivers each time the PC crashes.


- it tends to occur more often (or can be triggered) when the Ram is in heavy use (eg. gaming).





It could also be a failing hard drive, but that's less likely to cause random system lockups. In that case you're more likely see a BSOD being related to a particular activity or software that fails due to unreadable areas on the drive (bad sectors on the drive). However, a hard drive failure may appear just like a Ram failure if areas of the hard drive being used to store the virtual memory are affected by unreadable bad sectors. Failing hard drives also tend to make a clicking noise at times. To rule out a hard drive failure, do a complete error-checking scan of your main drive (usually C:), making sure to select the option to scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors. If you find bad drive sectors during the scan, your drive may indeed be failing.


To determine if you have failing Ram, you need to download memory testing software... you can get it here-


http://www.memtest.org/


The site provides an ISO of the software, which you will have to burn to a CD. Then you will have to restart your PC with the disc in the tray, making sure to set your PC's Bios to attempt to boot to the CD before booting the hard drive. The software will give you the option to perform various tests on your Ram and it may take hours so you may want to do this overnight. If you have two sticks on Ram in your PC, you should test them one at a time, so that you can determine if only one is failing. But to be honest, if one is failing and they're from the same brand and were installed simultaneously, you should just replace both (there's a good chance the other will fail soon)


One last thing. If you added new hardware to your PC recently, you should uninstall it to see if its driver was causing the problem. Alternately, you could update the drivers for any newly installed device.

[Flashorn]

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[Sleuth]

Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it.
I downloaded memtest86+ v2.11 ISO and ran it, and at pass 0, test 4 (moving inversions, random pattern) the bottom of the screen flooded with red error messages. there were 35,840 of them. these error messages stopped after test 4.

Kind of a stupid question to ask considering all of the errors, but does this mean that my ram is malfunctioning? i'm inexperienced when it comes to these things.

also, if I do end up replacing my RAM (as I was looking into it anyway) does the 'timing' count? it says that my current ram is 5-5-5-15. if I were to get, say 5-6-6-18 timing RAM, would that be compatible with my system? my RAM is currently 2GB PC2-8500 DDR2 RAM.

[crazy4laptops]

memtest should come up with very few errors when run...

when you have that many... ya i think your memory is dying

if you replace your ram... maybe get a little bit more for your $$ and match as close as possible when it comes to timing

[Sleuth]

thanks, but will the timing i specified work with my system, or do i need to get exactly 5-5-5-15 timing?

[crazy4laptops]

as long as you have the right kind of ram in the system, timing isnt much of a worry (you dont need exactly 5-5-5-15 timing)

but faster timing = faster computer, so its worth considering