[LiveBrianD]

ittiandro, on 22 January 2013 - 06:26 AM, said:

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The machine you use to recover the image shouldn't matter, as long as it has the same imaging software installed (or you're booting off a CD or flash drive for it).

I beg to differ. I have spent hours trying to recover the H.D.image on another computer with exactly the same imaging software as the original one.( Acronis T.I.). I even tried a special Acronis T.I. with an add-on feature purportedly designed just for that, namely to allow recovery on a different computer. I can guarantee, It doesn't work!

I'll try the cloning solution with Acronis.

Thank you for your input

Ittiandro

Hmm... Easeus todo backup has worked well for me and compnovo anyway, so you might want to try that. (free as well)

[compnovo]

LiveBrianD, on 22 January 2013 - 07:11 AM, said:

ittiandro, on 22 January 2013 - 06:26 AM, said:

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The machine you use to recover the image shouldn't matter, as long as it has the same imaging software installed (or you're booting off a CD or flash drive for it).

I beg to differ. I have spent hours trying to recover the H.D.image on another computer with exactly the same imaging software as the original one.( Acronis T.I.). I even tried a special Acronis T.I. with an add-on feature purportedly designed just for that, namely to allow recovery on a different computer. I can guarantee, It doesn't work!

I'll try the cloning solution with Acronis.

Thank you for your input

Ittiandro

Hmm... Easeus todo backup has worked well for me and compnovo anyway, so you might want to try that. (free as well)

For clarification, the images I've created in Win7 have NOT worked on other PCs. I found this out accidentally by trying to use a stored image on the wrong computer. It booted with the blank desktop and the message that I was running an illegal copy of Windows (I think I was lucky it booted at all).
I use EaseUS all the time to clone drives, but I can't put the drive in a different PC USUALLY because of driver conflict. I had it work one time but it was pure luck, the PC I put the cloned drive into had the same chipset, ethernet, and audio devices on the motherboard. What are the chances of that for a home builder?

[LiveBrianD]

compnovo, on 22 January 2013 - 09:02 AM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 22 January 2013 - 07:11 AM, said:

ittiandro, on 22 January 2013 - 06:26 AM, said:

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The machine you use to recover the image shouldn't matter, as long as it has the same imaging software installed (or you're booting off a CD or flash drive for it).

I beg to differ. I have spent hours trying to recover the H.D.image on another computer with exactly the same imaging software as the original one.( Acronis T.I.). I even tried a special Acronis T.I. with an add-on feature purportedly designed just for that, namely to allow recovery on a different computer. I can guarantee, It doesn't work!

I'll try the cloning solution with Acronis.

Thank you for your input

Ittiandro

Hmm... Easeus todo backup has worked well for me and compnovo anyway, so you might want to try that. (free as well)

For clarification, the images I've created in Win7 have NOT worked on other PCs. I found this out accidentally by trying to use a stored image on the wrong computer. It booted with the blank desktop and the message that I was running an illegal copy of Windows (I think I was lucky it booted at all).
I use EaseUS all the time to clone drives, but I can't put the drive in a different PC USUALLY because of driver conflict. I had it work one time but it was pure luck, the PC I put the cloned drive into had the same chipset, ethernet, and audio devices on the motherboard. What are the chances of that for a home builder?

If I'm understanding him correctly, the images don't work AT ALL on other machines, even for files, not just unable to boot (I was expecting that to be the case). IDK...

[compnovo]

LiveBrianD, on 22 January 2013 - 09:58 AM, said:

compnovo, on 22 January 2013 - 09:02 AM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 22 January 2013 - 07:11 AM, said:

ittiandro, on 22 January 2013 - 06:26 AM, said:

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The machine you use to recover the image shouldn't matter, as long as it has the same imaging software installed (or you're booting off a CD or flash drive for it).

I beg to differ. I have spent hours trying to recover the H.D.image on another computer with exactly the same imaging software as the original one.( Acronis T.I.). I even tried a special Acronis T.I. with an add-on feature purportedly designed just for that, namely to allow recovery on a different computer. I can guarantee, It doesn't work!

I'll try the cloning solution with Acronis.

Thank you for your input

Ittiandro

Hmm... Easeus todo backup has worked well for me and compnovo anyway, so you might want to try that. (free as well)

For clarification, the images I've created in Win7 have NOT worked on other PCs. I found this out accidentally by trying to use a stored image on the wrong computer. It booted with the blank desktop and the message that I was running an illegal copy of Windows (I think I was lucky it booted at all).
I use EaseUS all the time to clone drives, but I can't put the drive in a different PC USUALLY because of driver conflict. I had it work one time but it was pure luck, the PC I put the cloned drive into had the same chipset, ethernet, and audio devices on the motherboard. What are the chances of that for a home builder?

If I'm understanding him correctly, the images don't work AT ALL on other machines, even for files, not just unable to boot (I was expecting that to be the case). IDK...

No, the image won't work to restore files. Win7's Backup allows you to access individual files while the OS image is strictly for taking the system back to a working state.

[LiveBrianD]

compnovo, on 22 January 2013 - 11:54 AM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 22 January 2013 - 09:58 AM, said:

compnovo, on 22 January 2013 - 09:02 AM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 22 January 2013 - 07:11 AM, said:

ittiandro, on 22 January 2013 - 06:26 AM, said:

I beg to differ. I have spent hours trying to recover the H.D.image on another computer with exactly the same imaging software as the original one.( Acronis T.I.). I even tried a special Acronis T.I. with an add-on feature purportedly designed just for that, namely to allow recovery on a different computer. I can guarantee, It doesn't work!

I'll try the cloning solution with Acronis.

Thank you for your input

Ittiandro

Hmm... Easeus todo backup has worked well for me and compnovo anyway, so you might want to try that. (free as well)

For clarification, the images I've created in Win7 have NOT worked on other PCs. I found this out accidentally by trying to use a stored image on the wrong computer. It booted with the blank desktop and the message that I was running an illegal copy of Windows (I think I was lucky it booted at all).
I use EaseUS all the time to clone drives, but I can't put the drive in a different PC USUALLY because of driver conflict. I had it work one time but it was pure luck, the PC I put the cloned drive into had the same chipset, ethernet, and audio devices on the motherboard. What are the chances of that for a home builder?

If I'm understanding him correctly, the images don't work AT ALL on other machines, even for files, not just unable to boot (I was expecting that to be the case). IDK...

No, the image won't work to restore files. Win7's Backup allows you to access individual files while the OS image is strictly for taking the system back to a working state.

No, I'm talking about imaging or cloning an entire drive, and then reading the files on that entire drive on another machine.

[compnovo]

LiveBrianD, on 22 January 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

No, I'm talking about imaging or cloning an entire drive, and then reading the files on that entire drive on another machine.

Just for clarity, are you saying you want to clone a drive, and then take files from the clone and put them on another PC? If you slave the cloned drive to the receiving PC then that will work. However, you cannot do that with an image made with Win7 or Win8.

[LiveBrianD]

compnovo, on 22 January 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 22 January 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

No, I'm talking about imaging or cloning an entire drive, and then reading the files on that entire drive on another machine.

Just for clarity, are you saying you want to clone a drive, and then take files from the clone and put them on another PC? If you slave the cloned drive to the receiving PC then that will work. However, you cannot do that with an image made with Win7 or Win8.

I'm talking about cloning a drive, and then putting the drive in another PC and accessing the files on that drive. Or, making an image, and on another PC, restoring it and accessing the files. (using another OS install obviously) I think we're just interpreting this differently.

This post has been edited by LiveBrianD: 22 January 2013 - 05:43 PM

[compnovo]

LiveBrianD, on 22 January 2013 - 05:43 PM, said:

compnovo, on 22 January 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

LiveBrianD, on 22 January 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

No, I'm talking about imaging or cloning an entire drive, and then reading the files on that entire drive on another machine.

Just for clarity, are you saying you want to clone a drive, and then take files from the clone and put them on another PC? If you slave the cloned drive to the receiving PC then that will work. However, you cannot do that with an image made with Win7 or Win8.

I'm talking about cloning a drive, and then putting the drive in another PC and accessing the files on that drive. Or, making an image, and on another PC, restoring it and accessing the files. (using another OS install obviously) I think we're just interpreting this differently.

I'm talking about cloning a drive, and then putting the drive in another PC and accessing the files on that drive.
Only if everything on the other PC is identical, otherwise you'll run into driver conflict.

Or, making an image, and on another PC, restoring it and accessing the files. (using another OS install obviously)
I don't get how you can restore an image using another OS. Have you used a Win7 image to restore a PC yet? I do it by booting to a repair disc then following the prompts to reimage the OS. It overwrites everything.

For interpretation purposes, when I use the word "clone" I mean a drive that is a copy of another drive and can be swapped into the original computer. I did this when I installed the SSD in my desktop: HDD -> SSD, then swap parts.
When I use the word "image" I'm referring to the OS image I make with Win7 or Win8 that I can use to either rescue a FUBARed install or set up a new drive. The two functions have some overlapping utility, but the biggest difference is that I can't go into an "image" and find files.
I'm not sure if we're using the terms the same, but that's how I define them.

This post has been edited by compnovo: 22 January 2013 - 06:05 PM