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iPhone individual phone plans vary from $70/month to $150/month depending on how many minutes and text messaging you want. Unlimited data is mandatory and included in those prices. If you're like me and use your iPhone mostly for WiFi and 3G data transfers you can get by for much less than the maximum price.
iPhone 3G S vs Palm Pre: The Battle Begins
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 05:12 PM
alright wintard:
1) If the iphone is a fad, then why did you buy the iphone 3G
2) the iphone is not a fad to all the actual smart people that realize the possibilities of the iphone
So read that and tell me it's a fad. You just mindlessly follows the brand. for the censorship reasons, i dont think i can fully express your unintelligent remark.....
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1) If the iphone is a fad, then why did you buy the iphone 3G
2) the iphone is not a fad to all the actual smart people that realize the possibilities of the iphone
So read that and tell me it's a fad. You just mindlessly follows the brand. for the censorship reasons, i dont think i can fully express your unintelligent remark.....
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 07:40 PM
Who are you talking to? Anyway, trying to sound bully is plain pitiful XD.
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 10:41 AM
Well, this [~217557] is miss-informed,
The unlimited plan for AT&T is $99 !!! genius - since the subject is the IPhone vs Pre, you should consider a data plan which is $30 for the new iPhone. That would total $129. As for the statement "that is saving of 449.00 everymonth" is completely absurd - unless Pre pays your car note for free. For those of you who are not AT&T customers, you will have to switch to AT&T to get the phone that every other cell [company] is DYING to be like. BIG TIP AT&T has Roll-Over-Minutes for all plans - in which all unused minutes are saved for 12 months. Therefore, you can get a cheaper plan and still use your iPhone anytime at no additional cost. I do $59.99/month (including data) for my 1st gen iPhone, and rolled up 4,872 "daytime" minutes - I never worry about when Im on my phone, or how long I talk. I wanna also mention my iphone was my first apple product, and I was very impressed with the toughness of the iphone, it is the sturdiest phone I ever had, iPhone has changed the cell phone industry forever, I'm proud to own the best out there - it was worth every penny and I'm comfortable giving apple $299 for the big 3GS. Nearing Perfection.
The unlimited plan for AT&T is $99 !!! genius - since the subject is the IPhone vs Pre, you should consider a data plan which is $30 for the new iPhone. That would total $129. As for the statement "that is saving of 449.00 everymonth" is completely absurd - unless Pre pays your car note for free. For those of you who are not AT&T customers, you will have to switch to AT&T to get the phone that every other cell [company] is DYING to be like. BIG TIP AT&T has Roll-Over-Minutes for all plans - in which all unused minutes are saved for 12 months. Therefore, you can get a cheaper plan and still use your iPhone anytime at no additional cost. I do $59.99/month (including data) for my 1st gen iPhone, and rolled up 4,872 "daytime" minutes - I never worry about when Im on my phone, or how long I talk. I wanna also mention my iphone was my first apple product, and I was very impressed with the toughness of the iphone, it is the sturdiest phone I ever had, iPhone has changed the cell phone industry forever, I'm proud to own the best out there - it was worth every penny and I'm comfortable giving apple $299 for the big 3GS. Nearing Perfection.
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 10:57 AM
AAAAHHHH thats like saying The Orlando magic should play the 2006 LA Lakers in the finals because of the difference in experience and skill level. The iPhone is like LA, in the game it looks close, but what matters is the series score.. and its a blowout now... The new pricing and improvments - iPhone set the standard, and now its looking within to perfect its self and dominate again. You gotta a strong product.
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 11:57 AM
First off whoever listen to qingwa is as mistaken as he is.
1. windows mobile is hands down the best os on any smartphone on this planet. reasons being that it can run circles feature wise and configuration wise around anything.
2.to all apple freaks, microsoft does not manufacture smartphone so they dont have control as apple does on manufacturing considering the apple os was made for that specific device. microsoft cant help it if phone manufacturers dont put powerful enough processors in their phones to allow a powerful and full operating system (unlike the mac limited function junk) to function well and quick.
3. The palm pre (which i now own) is a baby in the market as iphone was and had a small base of vendors also. the largest base of vendors is windows mobil and will continue to dominate as they have in the past and will in the future. when apple sells 18 million units in a year than you have something to brag about because microsoft sold 18 million wm licenses in 1 year.
4. you apple fanboys have a lot of nerve talking garbage considering you finally have copy and paste plusing video recording. it took 3 gens before apple put out a phone that does some thing a free phone does.
4. the article does not mention synergy which is huge. lets not forget to mention multitasking.
5. you're supposed to compare the pre to the iphone second gen not 3rd gen because it came out when second gen was (is) current.
6. if you really want to battle os vs os i can out perform any apple device with wm 2003. apple is so far behind it's pathetic.
7. the only reason iphone sells so well is simple because it's an ipod with a phone and every ipod user wants to combine phone with mp3 player.
8. the iphone sold more phone in it's first weekend because th customer base for att is twice the size of sprint.
thank you
come again!
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1. windows mobile is hands down the best os on any smartphone on this planet. reasons being that it can run circles feature wise and configuration wise around anything.
2.to all apple freaks, microsoft does not manufacture smartphone so they dont have control as apple does on manufacturing considering the apple os was made for that specific device. microsoft cant help it if phone manufacturers dont put powerful enough processors in their phones to allow a powerful and full operating system (unlike the mac limited function junk) to function well and quick.
3. The palm pre (which i now own) is a baby in the market as iphone was and had a small base of vendors also. the largest base of vendors is windows mobil and will continue to dominate as they have in the past and will in the future. when apple sells 18 million units in a year than you have something to brag about because microsoft sold 18 million wm licenses in 1 year.
4. you apple fanboys have a lot of nerve talking garbage considering you finally have copy and paste plusing video recording. it took 3 gens before apple put out a phone that does some thing a free phone does.
4. the article does not mention synergy which is huge. lets not forget to mention multitasking.
5. you're supposed to compare the pre to the iphone second gen not 3rd gen because it came out when second gen was (is) current.
6. if you really want to battle os vs os i can out perform any apple device with wm 2003. apple is so far behind it's pathetic.
7. the only reason iphone sells so well is simple because it's an ipod with a phone and every ipod user wants to combine phone with mp3 player.
8. the iphone sold more phone in it's first weekend because th customer base for att is twice the size of sprint.
thank you
come again!
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 12:21 PM
What a terribly biased response. Let me give you a tip about posting on tech sites, if you want to be taken seriously, don't ever reply like you just did. Your reply had absolutely zero facts or stats to back up your claims. You can't just say that something will "run circles feature and config wise around anything" and someone smart read it and say "You know what, he has a point." Secondly.....namecalling? I'm guessing your not older than 14 or 15.
When Apple sells 18 million iPhones in a year? What one company or carrier sold just ONE WinMo phone in a year? Not a single one. WinMo is on over 40 different models of phones carried by almost every cell carrier. When there is ONE phone that outsells the iPhone then there will be something for WinMo to hang it's hat on. Not even relevant.
Who cares if Apple "fanboys" talk garabge? That is what bothers me the most about the argument "PC vs. Mac" and "Who makes the nicest phone?". Get over it. They are all just TOOLS. They help us with our daily lives to connect with people, get our email, surf the web, and keep us on time to meetings or functions. If a WinMo phones does a better job of that for YOU then use it. If you prefer an iPhone's UI to the Palm Pre, more power to you. Get a life and quit arguing about who's cell phone or computer is better.
You mentioned Sysnergy and Multitasking but no facts or specs to go with it so you're just as useless as the article.
The reason the iPhone sells well is because it is a useful device with a user friendly UI, 50,000 applications to assist in one way or another with daily life, and has just about every feature you could want or need aside from the stuff that's coming in the new update. Albeit, it took them a while, but oh well. I didn't have that stuff before, and gee wiz looky there, I'm still breathing and talking.
The customer base for AT&T is twice that of Sprint because Sprint's 3G network is kind of pathetic, and their device's are as well, until the Pre. And I speak from experience, I was a Sprint customer for 2 years. The iPhone sold well in it's first weekend because it's a good device.
One day we'll live in a world when people can stop obsessing over what is better. Apple, Windows, Palm, who gives a crap? Get what works well for you or you prefer and quit arguing about how great your device is. We don't owe any company that extra support or fanhood because we bought there phone or OS. They have whole departments dedicated to advertising. Leave it to them.
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When Apple sells 18 million iPhones in a year? What one company or carrier sold just ONE WinMo phone in a year? Not a single one. WinMo is on over 40 different models of phones carried by almost every cell carrier. When there is ONE phone that outsells the iPhone then there will be something for WinMo to hang it's hat on. Not even relevant.
Who cares if Apple "fanboys" talk garabge? That is what bothers me the most about the argument "PC vs. Mac" and "Who makes the nicest phone?". Get over it. They are all just TOOLS. They help us with our daily lives to connect with people, get our email, surf the web, and keep us on time to meetings or functions. If a WinMo phones does a better job of that for YOU then use it. If you prefer an iPhone's UI to the Palm Pre, more power to you. Get a life and quit arguing about who's cell phone or computer is better.
You mentioned Sysnergy and Multitasking but no facts or specs to go with it so you're just as useless as the article.
The reason the iPhone sells well is because it is a useful device with a user friendly UI, 50,000 applications to assist in one way or another with daily life, and has just about every feature you could want or need aside from the stuff that's coming in the new update. Albeit, it took them a while, but oh well. I didn't have that stuff before, and gee wiz looky there, I'm still breathing and talking.
The customer base for AT&T is twice that of Sprint because Sprint's 3G network is kind of pathetic, and their device's are as well, until the Pre. And I speak from experience, I was a Sprint customer for 2 years. The iPhone sold well in it's first weekend because it's a good device.
One day we'll live in a world when people can stop obsessing over what is better. Apple, Windows, Palm, who gives a crap? Get what works well for you or you prefer and quit arguing about how great your device is. We don't owe any company that extra support or fanhood because we bought there phone or OS. They have whole departments dedicated to advertising. Leave it to them.
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 12:36 PM
cochranbt said:
What a terribly biased response. Let me give you a tip about posting on tech sites, if you want to be taken seriously, don't ever reply like you just did. Your reply had absolutely zero facts or stats to back up your claims. You can't just say that something will "run circles feature and config wise around anything" and someone smart read it and say "You know what, he has a point." Secondly.....namecalling? I'm guessing your not older than 14 or 15.
When Apple sells 18 million iPhones in a year? What one company or carrier sold just ONE WinMo phone in a year? Not a single one. WinMo is on over 40 different models of phones carried by almost every cell carrier. When there is ONE phone that outsells the iPhone then there will be something for WinMo to hang it's hat on. Not even relevant.
Who cares if Apple "fanboys" talk garabge? That is what bothers me the most about the argument "PC vs. Mac" and "Who makes the nicest phone?". Get over it. They are all just TOOLS. They help us with our daily lives to connect with people, get our email, surf the web, and keep us on time to meetings or functions. If a WinMo phones does a better job of that for YOU then use it. If you prefer an iPhone's UI to the Palm Pre, more power to you. Get a life and quit arguing about who's cell phone or computer is better.
You mentioned Sysnergy and Multitasking but no facts or specs to go with it so you're just as useless as the article.
The reason the iPhone sells well is because it is a useful device with a user friendly UI, 50,000 applications to assist in one way or another with daily life, and has just about every feature you could want or need aside from the stuff that's coming in the new update. Albeit, it took them a while, but oh well. I didn't have that stuff before, and gee wiz looky there, I'm still breathing and talking.
The customer base for AT&T is twice that of Sprint because Sprint's 3G network is kind of pathetic, and their device's are as well, until the Pre. And I speak from experience, I was a Sprint customer for 2 years. The iPhone sold well in it's first weekend because it's a good device.
One day we'll live in a world when people can stop obsessing over what is better. Apple, Windows, Palm, who gives a crap? Get what works well for you or you prefer and quit arguing about how great your device is. We don't owe any company that extra support or fanhood because we bought there phone or OS. They have whole departments dedicated to advertising. Leave it to them.
When Apple sells 18 million iPhones in a year? What one company or carrier sold just ONE WinMo phone in a year? Not a single one. WinMo is on over 40 different models of phones carried by almost every cell carrier. When there is ONE phone that outsells the iPhone then there will be something for WinMo to hang it's hat on. Not even relevant.
Who cares if Apple "fanboys" talk garabge? That is what bothers me the most about the argument "PC vs. Mac" and "Who makes the nicest phone?". Get over it. They are all just TOOLS. They help us with our daily lives to connect with people, get our email, surf the web, and keep us on time to meetings or functions. If a WinMo phones does a better job of that for YOU then use it. If you prefer an iPhone's UI to the Palm Pre, more power to you. Get a life and quit arguing about who's cell phone or computer is better.
You mentioned Sysnergy and Multitasking but no facts or specs to go with it so you're just as useless as the article.
The reason the iPhone sells well is because it is a useful device with a user friendly UI, 50,000 applications to assist in one way or another with daily life, and has just about every feature you could want or need aside from the stuff that's coming in the new update. Albeit, it took them a while, but oh well. I didn't have that stuff before, and gee wiz looky there, I'm still breathing and talking.
The customer base for AT&T is twice that of Sprint because Sprint's 3G network is kind of pathetic, and their device's are as well, until the Pre. And I speak from experience, I was a Sprint customer for 2 years. The iPhone sold well in it's first weekend because it's a good device.
One day we'll live in a world when people can stop obsessing over what is better. Apple, Windows, Palm, who gives a crap? Get what works well for you or you prefer and quit arguing about how great your device is. We don't owe any company that extra support or fanhood because we bought there phone or OS. They have whole departments dedicated to advertising. Leave it to them.
:^0 i think this guy just went to the last page and read that one comment then started bitching...
read all 6 pages or whatever and youll know what EVERYTHING is specs and all including what synergy is and what multitaksing does as well.. as far as winmo, they kill other os's, i just use them because they have slow processor and lock up.. because i was listening to music on my old HTC8100 a 2 years b4 the iBlowmephone came out, and was surfing the web in true view, cut and pasting the crap put of everything... switched to the iphone and came RIGHT back to the HTC windows based phones... now it has got to the point where people arent reading the whole post and it is all repeated info now... this thread is done Palm Pre FTW.. based on newest generations out Palm Pre 1, Apple iPhone zip...
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 12:42 PM
It wasn't the information in any of the prior posts that bothered me, it was the way that guy presented it. You did a good job of proving my main point though. 2 years ago you were doing everything with your WinMo phone, tried the iPhone and then went back to your WinMo phone. You used what works best for you. End of story. Why the endless arguments about what's better or worse? It's like politics, everybody is always going to have an opinion, so who cares who's right or wrong when there is always going to be an argument?
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 03:18 PM
The SDK for webOS is available to specific vendors that Palm has chosen and you can go to www.precentral.net and look at what applications that have been added or announced on a daily basis. Not to mention that with the PalmOS Classic emulator, you can run Palm apps that have been developed over the years. Also, if one has a Safari Books account, you can read the 'Rough Cuts' version of the book on webOS programming as each chapter is available.
So to say that there won't be any useful 3rd party applications for a year is complete BS. There are useful apps available now!
Of course, that is all the offical 'do it by the book' approach. People have already figured out how to get the Pre in 'development mode', extract the ROM, and write programs for the device. They've also discovered that the Pre is just the 1st of 3 different webOS devices from Palm.
Given that I'll be able to run my existing Palm applications, I can swap the battery out for higher capacity one, the Sprint network has better coverage than AT&T where I live, and the service plan is cheaper, I'm seriously considering getting a webOS machine. The question is now: do I get a Pre, or do I wait for the 'non slider' phone? While the initial upfront cost is $100 more than the 8GB iPhone, the overall cost of the phone plan is still cheaper than the iPhone AT&T.
So to say that there won't be any useful 3rd party applications for a year is complete BS. There are useful apps available now!
Of course, that is all the offical 'do it by the book' approach. People have already figured out how to get the Pre in 'development mode', extract the ROM, and write programs for the device. They've also discovered that the Pre is just the 1st of 3 different webOS devices from Palm.
Given that I'll be able to run my existing Palm applications, I can swap the battery out for higher capacity one, the Sprint network has better coverage than AT&T where I live, and the service plan is cheaper, I'm seriously considering getting a webOS machine. The question is now: do I get a Pre, or do I wait for the 'non slider' phone? While the initial upfront cost is $100 more than the 8GB iPhone, the overall cost of the phone plan is still cheaper than the iPhone AT&T.
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 05:26 PM
WinMo destroys anything on the market and about the remark stating "what company has sold as much as the iphone". first off you dont have just 1 company making a win mo phone but apple (the control freaks) will not give out the os for other manufacturers to apply to their devices. please look back at the time when apple allowed vendors to build apple pcs and they were complete failures. there is a reason for the failures because apple os programmers have limited thinking and cannot build an os for the general public but instead they can build for a specific system. If winmo was only available from just 1 company we would still be looking at 18 mil because the users are looking for winmo. Since there are more than 1 company making a device with winmo the consumer gets to have a choice. I compare it to writing an os for a specific calculator because that os will not work on another manufacturers calculator.
Iphone is useful for kiddies as a toy and the ones that want to combine phone with ipod. the iphone has many issues and has been a serious problem since the day it hit the market. software updates have caused many bricks and consistant crashes.
I don't understand where you get the sprint 3g is not as good as att 3g because you're way off base when i compare my speeds to my brothers iphone speeds when connecting to the internet and im using a htc touch pro. by the way my brothr said att is worst service he ever used.
Just as a side not, i have not known anyone that had their winmo from 5 and up ever crash on them. I've never locked up and winmo is extremely solid.
Iphone is useful for kiddies as a toy and the ones that want to combine phone with ipod. the iphone has many issues and has been a serious problem since the day it hit the market. software updates have caused many bricks and consistant crashes.
I don't understand where you get the sprint 3g is not as good as att 3g because you're way off base when i compare my speeds to my brothers iphone speeds when connecting to the internet and im using a htc touch pro. by the way my brothr said att is worst service he ever used.
Just as a side not, i have not known anyone that had their winmo from 5 and up ever crash on them. I've never locked up and winmo is extremely solid.
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 11:22 PM
Windows Mobile is the Rodney Dangerfield of smart phones: nobody gives it any respect or thinks it's cool.
I've been to a couple different Windows Mobile .NET development workshops put on by Microsoft and they have some serious iPhone envy issues. I swear that the guy running them was about to have a stroke describing the frustration that he has with his own wife and kids wanting iPhones or iPods. His answer for everything was "wait until WM 6.5 is out, it will be great". WM seems to be ok and Visual Studio makes it easy to knock out simple apps, but the usability seems to be lacking compared to the other devices. Most of the people at the workshops had iPhones or Blackberries and were there in order to support corporate WM PDA devices, not WM smartphones. It was also funny that the engineer from Redmond that was there to help out the local tech reps was using a MacBook Pro for his dev machine. :^0
I've been to a couple different Windows Mobile .NET development workshops put on by Microsoft and they have some serious iPhone envy issues. I swear that the guy running them was about to have a stroke describing the frustration that he has with his own wife and kids wanting iPhones or iPods. His answer for everything was "wait until WM 6.5 is out, it will be great". WM seems to be ok and Visual Studio makes it easy to knock out simple apps, but the usability seems to be lacking compared to the other devices. Most of the people at the workshops had iPhones or Blackberries and were there in order to support corporate WM PDA devices, not WM smartphones. It was also funny that the engineer from Redmond that was there to help out the local tech reps was using a MacBook Pro for his dev machine. :^0
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Posted 14 June 2009 - 04:42 AM
The everything plan on Sprint is also $99 a month. As I've commented before, I really don't believe the phones are the issue for many of us so much as the carrier. Yes, with AT&T I will get rollover minutes, but what I won't get is a competent signal at my parents home. I won't get the ability to download some pages on AT&T and this I know for a fact as I have used both services there. I actually traded my Sprint aircard for one from AT&T with the idea that if the signal was as good everywhere I travel, I will move to the iPhone. Well, the signal and data transmission was pretty horrible in many places I travel regularly. I'd just rather have a consistent connection. I also text message a lot and it costs more on AT&T than Sprint.
Oh, and you perfectly illustrate my point. You think the iPhone is the best thing out there and that you are therefore the best because you own it. You owning it just means you bought it and nothing more. Same with my Pre. It means I bought a Pre and that's about all it means. Or maybe I'm your whole identity is wrapped up in an electronic device?
Oh, and you perfectly illustrate my point. You think the iPhone is the best thing out there and that you are therefore the best because you own it. You owning it just means you bought it and nothing more. Same with my Pre. It means I bought a Pre and that's about all it means. Or maybe I'm your whole identity is wrapped up in an electronic device?
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Posted 18 June 2009 - 05:06 PM
The iphone 3GS wins with no close contest. Palm has a decent entry for a phone with a keyboard though. The direct specs to specs of iphone 3gs vs palm pre shows the iphone wins easily: http://www.clashem.c...1=1196&id2=1148
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 02:36 PM
First off the pre is 6 months old as it was announced with it's present specs in January.
Secondly, Apple has had plenty of time (6 months) to update the aging looking of the iphone and did not. All they did was add more space and video software to an aging pile of trash that doesnt even out do windows mobile when it comes to features.
They knew the 3g was dead in the water if they didn't add the same type of search palm announced 6 months ago.
Apple never announces anything till 2 weeks before release because they lack any real innovation. If one of you apple fans tells me the iphone is innovative then and only then i will realize how biased you clowns really are.
The pre should be compared to the 3g 2.0 version and not the 3g s version simply because it came out afterwards and apple already knew what to beat out because 6 months ago palm showed the world what it does.
Why do you think they want to stop the pre from syncing with itunes while they have a huge list of compatable hardware that work with itunes?
Apple programmers lack skill and have lacked it since the day the mac hit the industry. why do you think they lose money on mac every year? why because they're good and innovative? good luck with that thought!
Keep one thing in mind when comparing apple with any company out there and especially with Microsoft. Apple make their OS for their systems while MS makes it for millions of different configs. It's easy to make a size 34 pair of pants when you know you need size 34, but it's not so easy to make a one size fits all like MS does with windows.
Very poor programmers and have proven i with the iphone not having something as simple as copy and paste for 2 years.. wow!
I guess they're too busy suing people
Secondly, Apple has had plenty of time (6 months) to update the aging looking of the iphone and did not. All they did was add more space and video software to an aging pile of trash that doesnt even out do windows mobile when it comes to features.
They knew the 3g was dead in the water if they didn't add the same type of search palm announced 6 months ago.
Apple never announces anything till 2 weeks before release because they lack any real innovation. If one of you apple fans tells me the iphone is innovative then and only then i will realize how biased you clowns really are.
The pre should be compared to the 3g 2.0 version and not the 3g s version simply because it came out afterwards and apple already knew what to beat out because 6 months ago palm showed the world what it does.
Why do you think they want to stop the pre from syncing with itunes while they have a huge list of compatable hardware that work with itunes?
Apple programmers lack skill and have lacked it since the day the mac hit the industry. why do you think they lose money on mac every year? why because they're good and innovative? good luck with that thought!
Keep one thing in mind when comparing apple with any company out there and especially with Microsoft. Apple make their OS for their systems while MS makes it for millions of different configs. It's easy to make a size 34 pair of pants when you know you need size 34, but it's not so easy to make a one size fits all like MS does with windows.
Very poor programmers and have proven i with the iphone not having something as simple as copy and paste for 2 years.. wow!
I guess they're too busy suing people
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Posted 20 June 2009 - 06:44 AM
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You can certainly compare technologies between the two phones as they both are working with the same available technology. But certain behavioral components like dealing with availability of apps are lame. When the iPhone was first introduced, if you remember there were zero 3rd party solutions available, and the big issue was if Apple was gonna allow it. They've had a a mulit-year head start with their apps, so of course they are gonna have many more apps. This article failed to mention that Palm already has hundreds of thousands of apps available although you do have to run them in a virtual session. Another compared issue was with pricing which is mostly due to supply and demand.
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Your are correct, the iPhone had no apps at the beginning. That was given as a reason not to buy... why should that not apply now? The Palm apps (I've owned 2 palms in the past) were ok on a plam with a stylus but simply would not work well with a finger.
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Posted 22 June 2009 - 04:59 AM
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well it dont really matter now about apps, the Pre has been "hacked" all to hell now, and there are games now for the pre, and apps, lol PLUS! the flashlight app is brighter hahaa!!! and thats just the app, dont forget the LED on the back...
oh and also, this wont have a stylus either, only reacts to your touch. damn I feel sorry for Apple users. Seems like they pretty much plateued.
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> You can certainly compare technologies between the two phones as they both are working with the same available technology. But certain behavioral components like dealing with availability of apps are lame. When the iPhone was first introduced, if you remember there were zero 3rd party solutions available, and the big issue was if Apple was gonna allow it. They've had a a mulit-year head start with their apps, so of course they are gonna have many more apps. This article failed to mention that Palm already has hundreds of thousands of apps available although you do have to run them in a virtual session. Another compared issue was with pricing which is mostly due to supply and demand.
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Your are correct, the iPhone had no apps at the beginning. That was given as a reason not to buy... why should that not apply now? The Palm apps (I've owned 2 palms in the past) were ok on a plam with a stylus but simply would not work well with a finger.
> You can certainly compare technologies between the two phones as they both are working with the same available technology. But certain behavioral components like dealing with availability of apps are lame. When the iPhone was first introduced, if you remember there were zero 3rd party solutions available, and the big issue was if Apple was gonna allow it. They've had a a mulit-year head start with their apps, so of course they are gonna have many more apps. This article failed to mention that Palm already has hundreds of thousands of apps available although you do have to run them in a virtual session. Another compared issue was with pricing which is mostly due to supply and demand.
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Your are correct, the iPhone had no apps at the beginning. That was given as a reason not to buy... why should that not apply now? The Palm apps (I've owned 2 palms in the past) were ok on a plam with a stylus but simply would not work well with a finger.
well it dont really matter now about apps, the Pre has been "hacked" all to hell now, and there are games now for the pre, and apps, lol PLUS! the flashlight app is brighter hahaa!!! and thats just the app, dont forget the LED on the back...
oh and also, this wont have a stylus either, only reacts to your touch. damn I feel sorry for Apple users. Seems like they pretty much plateued.
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Posted 24 June 2009 - 09:44 PM
Had the iphone 3G and didn't like it because it was faulty. At&t sucks. Always had dropped calls especially when under ground in the metro underground. Sprint get full reception in San Francisco metro underground. another reason i hated iphone was the price of service, the speed of the internet and the fact that it is not a multitasker. --:D-- edit: i also failed to mention how short the battery life on it was as well as how horrible the pictures came out in dim lighting. but the worst thing was the slow web browsing and not being able to multitask. i ended up selling the iphone for $300 on craigslist --:D--
Bought the pre opening week and LOVE IT! the only huge difference is the app store but i have a 1st gen itouch for the games. As i mentioned before sprint is a lot cheaper then At&t and has way better reception and internet browsing speed. Pre's multitasker is very unique and even if the camera doesn't have white balance or exposure the camera takes great pictures even in dark areas because of the flash which i iphone still does not have. Lastly you cant go wrong with a keyboard no matter how small the buttons may be, i HATED the full touch screen of the iphone.
GO PRE! for a 1st Gen it runs circles arounds the iphone 1st Gen & the G1 1st Gen. it's a GREAT phone & can't wait to see its upgraded versions.
GO PRE! for a 1st Gen it runs circles arounds the iphone 1st Gen & the G1 1st Gen. it's a GREAT phone & can't wait to see its upgraded versions.
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Posted 26 June 2009 - 06:49 AM
You presume that tons of memory and video are important to everyone. Personally I could care less about video and I feel quite comfortable with 8mb of memory. I don't want to store a lot of music on my phone, nor do I want to store a bunch of pictures.
Just an FYI, while a digital compass sounds great, how often do you need it? And did you know that digital compasses need to be kept completely horizontal both fore and aft as well as side to side to be accurate? Tilt it just a bit and you'll be off by 5 or more degrees. That doesn't sound like much, but its huge.
The iPhone is a great phone for those who need its features. The Palm is great for those who need its features. What really cracks me up though is how everyone thinks all these apps are so cool. I guess its just because the idea of apps on a phone are new to them, whereas Palm users have had apps for years. We started with tons of them, found out most weren't all that useful and are happy with just a few key apps. Once you've had your iPhone for a while you'll understand. Also as a person who actually works for a living, I don't have time to play with little useless apps. I just need a few to take care of what I actually NEED.
Just an FYI, while a digital compass sounds great, how often do you need it? And did you know that digital compasses need to be kept completely horizontal both fore and aft as well as side to side to be accurate? Tilt it just a bit and you'll be off by 5 or more degrees. That doesn't sound like much, but its huge.
The iPhone is a great phone for those who need its features. The Palm is great for those who need its features. What really cracks me up though is how everyone thinks all these apps are so cool. I guess its just because the idea of apps on a phone are new to them, whereas Palm users have had apps for years. We started with tons of them, found out most weren't all that useful and are happy with just a few key apps. Once you've had your iPhone for a while you'll understand. Also as a person who actually works for a living, I don't have time to play with little useless apps. I just need a few to take care of what I actually NEED.
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Posted 27 June 2009 - 06:09 AM
I hate it when people say that its OK to buy the Pre now because the Pre community will get better as it grows. Come on, buy it because it benefits you NOW, not sit around hoping in 2 years from it'll have all the apps you want. Be honest in saying you don't like Apple products, don't like AT&T, couldn't afford to switch, can't get out of contract... whatever. Palm could fall flat on in its ass in 6 months.
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