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[swagg]

Sorry to curse but PC World has seriously let me down with these writers.. This dude is clearly just another iPhone owner, who is not posting ANY facts at all about why the Pre is going to go downhill.
Being a Sprint employee, I have heard calls, and have seen numbers to know that it was a great launch for Sprint and Palm. Selling out of product and starting the same amount of either Plan upgrades or starting NEW plans with Sprint.

I could see someone paying the little extra to get the Pre because other than video camera and, ummm, ummm, a compass?; what can the iPhone do that the Pre can't do right out of the box?

Please!! Someone answer that!! And, dont talk about apps, cause thats not out of the box; and if you do talk about apps, then give me some specific apps that make the iPhone better..

PC World has nothing but tools writing for them.
"PC" World writers that love Apple products.. Shame..
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[catalogguy]

Wow, I am sorry I chose this article as I one of the first on which to spend my valuable AM reading time. This article is a true disappointment. The author ignores currently available information about the market about which he writes. Further, he clearly reveals that he has no useful personal experience living with Palm and Apple smart phones. I could go on about the device comparison or the market analysis, but many articles already do so and better than I could. I will never knowingly willingly open another link to an article written by David Coursey.

[devintownsend5]

The Palm Pre has barely been out for seven days and the last thing it needs is negative publicity by supposedly unbiased writers. I'm a big fan of PC WORLD but an article as cynical and one way as this one is quite annoying and in a way disrespectful to people who've already purchsed the Pre and might be buying it in the near future.
Sprint's coverage in New York, I find, is way better than AT&T but anyways, my rant seems like such a lost cause considering such an abrasive article has been posted by this author.

[Porthos]

swagg says:
Thu Jun 11 05:59:53 PDT 2009:
Please!! Someone answer that!! And, dont talk about apps, cause thats not out of the box; and if you do talk about apps, then give me some specific apps that make the iPhone better..
OK:
Beejive, 1Password, NewNewsWire, Remember the Milk, Facebook, JAM!, Yelp! (with GPS services), Google Maps (with GPS services), Skype, NYTimes, Shazam, Remote, Parallels, Air Sharing, and a bunch of games.

[Tekz08]

I've got to agree with Swagg here - on most of his points. The article says all about how the Palm Pre will fail (miserably), yet fails to mention any actual reasons other than "teh iPhone is wai bettar, lol."

[dpa62]

This guy should not be allowed to write such nonsense. It is plain as day that this guy is an Apple fanboy. PCWorld needs to hire better writers . Writers that are neutral and can write about something without bias. The iPhone cannot hold a candle to the Pre in a lot of ways and it's old news now anyway. The Pre is very refreshing and new and it's just an awesome phone. That's my two cents.
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[aliamir]

wow, just wow. PC world I loved you back in 1996 but this is a new low. the palm pre may not have been a huge hit like the iphone, but it was not a failed launch. The smartphone market is not yet saturated, so their is certainly space for more mobile systems.

[lordhong]

I wasted my valuable 15 minutes on this idiotic article. I even bothered to register an account to post my comment.
I have iPhone, G1, Storm and Pre. With first-hand personal user experience, I'm confident Pre/webOS is a very strong competition to iPhone and Android. In fact, in many ways, Pre is ahead of Android. And in some ways, Pre is better than iPhone. Multi-process background notification anyone?
I can't help but to start doubt that David Coursey is paid by # of words/articles he writes and somehow facing a tight deadline, he MUST cram out some crap to attract eyeballs, and thus page impressions. Congrats you've achieved that, and along the way, tarnished PC Magazine's reputation.

[milestrane]

well now. Next time you want a business article written I suggest you hire someone who actually is a professional business journalist. So many points are missed here . . . where to start?
first off - to be clear - i own an iMac, a MacBook pro, and an iPhone 3g. i am a fan of apple products and have supported them with my wallet for a number of years. That said, the palm Pre is tugging at me for a few basic reasons:
I need a smartphone that can help me do business and the iPhone just doesn't cut it. I am bored with RIM although they make great products.
The main point the write missed here is that Palm is not even really competing with Apple on this launch. Apple has such a huge head start Pal,m would be insane to do so. That is simply media hype - the rocky battle - and this writer bought it hook, ;line and sinker.
Palm's real opportunity here is multiple markets:
1) existing sprint customers who have been dying for a great touchscreen smartphone
2)standard phone users that are in the market for a smartphone
3) businesses and enterprise - not so likely to go with Apple
4) those like me, who have had an iPhone and are basically not impressed with day to day functionality. (sure it is a great iPod and there are 50k apps - not what I need it to do)
Not such a well written article. seems even a bit lazy - did you phone it in? (ba dum pum)

[ozoneocean]

I have to join the herd here and say that it's not that great an article. It starts with the premise that "the Plam pre is a failure", never bothers to doing anything at all to support that premise and then goes on to talk more about this apparent "failure". Thank goodness more people don't write like that or we'd have stuff like: "Isn't it a shame about Steve Jobs dying? Yeah, it made me sad. Well what will we do now that he's dead? I wonder how Apple will cope?" Let's just write about fictional events, it's so interesting. :)

[jmoriconi]

Agreed. This article could have been about a deathmatch between sasquatch and chupacabra and it would have been every bit as informative and based in reality as this.

[SomeoneElse]

The only people that think the Pre has no where to go, but down are Mactards, aka the Apple Fanbois. Even diehard Mac people are looking at the 3GS and wondering what Apple was thinking because of its lack of innovative features (and lack of other features seen in other phones). If anyone has dropped the ball this summer on phones, it's Apple.

This summer is preping to be quite the war of smart phones and, depending on how the various smart phone vendors do things, I could see Apple being knocked from it's pedestal. The key is going to be how quickly the various other vendors can get their app stores up with strong catalogs. If this happens, Apple is going to be in serious, serious trouble since they're tied to AT&T until the end of the year (and most of the complaints are centered against AT&T and their network). If Palm, Nokia/Windows CE phones, RIMM, and/or Google can get their apps going that could take a lot of market share from Apple.

So, Pre has a lot of potenial directions to go, it will all depend on how Palm plays it's cards now that Apple has shown it's hand and it's not very good (possibly the proverbial Aces and Eights).

[k4ever]

What is wrong with PC World? This article is pure bullst. Where are the facts? This should be listed as a bad opinion piece.

[1MacGeek]

@ swagg : No facts you say?

iPhone 3g : $99
Palm Pre : $199

That's as cold, hard, and dispassionately logical as facts come. I would also advance it as a reason the iPhone is "better", in your parlance. And by the way, "great" is a relative term especially when one applies it to the Pre launch. To Palm "great" is 50K units out the door. To Apple 50K is a dismal failure. A quick reminder : the iPhone 3G had a million units out the door the first weekend. These are facts for which you search.

As to what the iPhone can do which the Pre cannot - aside from select from 40K applications, play media on a higher resolution screen, with a battery that lasts longer and seamless, easy sync with iTunes and e-mail - not much.

Perhaps you should face facts and admit you backed the wrong horse.
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[k4ever]

Just for the record, I love Macs. I even owned an IPhone. Notice I wrote "owned" and IPhone. I returned it after 4 days. The IPhone is not a smart phone, it's a multimedia phone. A smart phone that can't multi-task, can't cut and paste, can't edit documents once you open up the box, won't tether to your laptop, or does not have the ability to swap out batteries is NOT A SMART PHONE! We won't even talk about the lack of a physical keyboard. The IPhone is a great phone, but a mediocre smart phone (if you want to call it that). The Pre is an excellent smart phone and a good multimedia phone. PC World should work on being unbiased with their "opinions".

[jmoriconi]

@1MacGeek - the screens are the same resolution, both phones sync with iTunes, and the iPhone had no app store at launch. Both are good phones. Why everyone chooses to bash one and love another is beyond me.

[k4ever]

@1MacGeek: Your name says it call. When you are talking about smart phones (you know, the phones that are used as PDAs w/business in mind), the Pre is priced right. Blackberry Storms and Bolds are a lot more. The IPhone has excellent apps and is a great phone but it is lacking as a smart phone. Read my previous post to find out why. You hard core Mac guys just don't get it. The Pre is worth the price as a smart phone, the IPhone (1G, 3G, or 3G S) is not.

[rfceo]

Does PCWorld have any editors that review articles before they go live??? This is the second article that I have read here in the last week that was full of misinformation. You folks keep writing articles like this and it will be: PCWorld: Nowhere To Go But Down
From the other comments here maybe that is already the case.
So who is paying you to write this crap AT&T or Apple.
Just my 2 cents

[PeteMichigan]

What I think that most of the readers have missed here is the writer of this article didn't actually intend this to be a quality piece of journalism. It was written to incite (Tech Inciter?). He is intentionally inflammatory for the purpose of drawing traffic to this website. If you don't appreciate his style of writing or if you believe the reader deserves better than what is offered, then the best way to deal with it is to ignore him. Don’t click on the link to the article and don’t post. If we deny the writer the only thing he really wants, he won't be here long and maybe PCW will offer a better quality product.