[Biggkatt01]

And it seems achristie your no smarter than a 5th grader if you are calling the owners of the Pre on a Palm forum not creditable.

You have a link pointing to Palms own forums site and owners of the Pre reporting problems with the phone and their not creditable.

I have never seem someone so slow in my life my eight year old could accept that the phone has issues, But not you, you refuse to believe your own fellow Pre owners. I guess your reading these forums and patiently awaiting Santa Clause to come down your chimney and leave you your present, A brand new overheating Multi tasking battery draining Palm Pre.

[jabberwolf]

"Until they get bit by the "loose slider" tiger that is playing out in the 'Battery/Heat' forums. It is looking like the Pre is a steaming pile of crap - but, of course, I am making all of it up. "
Wow looking for ANYTHING arent we?!?
Loose slider? BITTEN? HAHA, yeah and the same can go for that GLASS that broke and injured an iphone user! OMG ITS A DEFECT!!! TAKE THEM ALL BACK!!
Sorry I just love the iMacGeek hysteria.



The battery issue is fixed because people were setting it to 5 minutes for their POP accounts.

The same specs on the iphone are 5 hours for 3G and it doesnt even come CLOSE,,, its a flop, a failure. Not because it doesnt deliver this but it doesnt deliver multitasking that might give it a good excuse!
The palm at least is doing things for the user. Oh and the Palm pre now has a post market battery thats better and an extended,slightly larger thats much better. The iphone? Still no swappable battery, you ARE STUCK!

And the iphone ALSO USES A LITHIUM POLYMER LITHIUM POLYMER BATTERY DOH !!

[jabberwolf]

And I have never seen so man mactards in 1 place before fighting an issue that doesnt exist,

For the iphone sheep, if you read past the 1st page of the palm forums, regarding the battery overheating issue, you will see...

And let me repeat, AGAIN, that those people have been turning on their POP email account settings to pull every 5 to 10 minutes.

Are we through with this yet, or do we have to get the thorazine out to sedate you guys , the point you past the 1st grade and instruct you to read just a wee bit further than the 1st page complaints. The iphone 3Gs on the other hand, has had such issues, and this thing DOESNT multitask... so at least on the iphone forums THERE IS NO SOLUTION FOR THE IPHONE overheating. Talk about irony!

So if there is nothing left to argue about the Pre, move on, you have no argument!

Go, shew, walk on, go outside and play,.... dont go away angry, just go away !!!

[Biggkatt01]

I can see you you luv your Pre and that's fine, But like I said don't say that there is no problem, its a disservice to the phone accept it have palm fix it and move on.
So let me get this straight you can't even set your phone to retrieve your mail every 5 min or it will drain your battery. thats a joke I had my Iphone setting to get my mail every 5 min with heavy use and my phone still lasted around 7 hours and that's with heavy use.

then a month after getting my 3G I moved my settings to every 1 min and I still get around 5.5 hours of use.

Oh and don't worry will go away but with working phones. Don't let your hand get to hot there Palm boy. why don't you give me a call oh sorry you can't battery dead.

A joke a complete joke, You palm people are losing feature after feature.

[rfceo]

rfceo wrote:
There are major developers already jumping on board with Pre,
more and more every day, not necessarily games but they too will come.

1MacGeek wrote So your idea of a game developer is Real?
You guys have really got to lay off the weed...


Actually you need to learn to read not necessarily games .... Real is a large developer
there are several large developers that are beginning to work on items for the webOS.
I don't want a toy with a whole lot of games, I want a smartphone that can multitask and
handle my basic business needs as well as my personal calenders etc.

[jabberwolf]

Well thats very nice in al in fantasy land.

But I doubt it works well until you open that application which then turns it on.

OOPS... reality just set in and now you realize why the iphone claims it doesnt do multitasking that well... because it doesnt.

As for 1mactard again read past the first page, maybe 2 of complaints, and again, there will be that answer. Many users have chimed in to claim that was the isse and are loving their functional EAS...which again if set to 1 minute with the iphone, wont matter until you actually check your email. And yes this is from a user that is about to throw their iphone out the window. I suggest they dont, as our windows dont open on the 8th floor.

oh well, you can spew what you pretend to know.. and others will practice what they do know and attend to their users needs. REAL NEEDS not some needs of a blooger with a fantasy of expertise.

[rfceo]

Biggkatt01 wrote Ok dogrivergrad68 you must not be doing to much checking, here let me help you, and before you think this is a biased link it is a link to the Palm support forum. And I say that so that the Pre fans don't think I'm being biased every complaint being desrcibed is by a user of the Palm pre.

Oh and by the way the battery life problem can we all say MULTI TASKING, Yeah great idea Palm





Palm Pre overheating and having terrible battery life.


interesting that you point your link to the 6th of June the LAUNCH DATE. before the upgrades to the phone webOS which is now on 1.03 (released over the air 6-19-2009) the problem is solved for many but there is still the problem where "The lingering problem (and I don't think this is new with 1.0.3) is increased battery drain when the network signal is weak. I'll be at the back of a restaurant where signal is low, and my Pre will get hotter and consume more power."
This is a problem that I had with my Sanyo 8300 when there was a weak signal. It is because the phone is searching for signal, which consumes more power cause the battery to heat up all batteries will do this when they are producing larger than normal amounts of energy, it is a chemical reaction. On another forum they found that if you update your sprint info that not only does their signal improve drastically it also helps resolve the battery issue in a lot of cases.

[1MacGeek]

jabberwolf said:

Wow looking for ANYTHING arent we?!?

No, just for that which Pre owners are reporting.

jabberwolf said:

The battery issue is fixed because people were setting it to 5 minutes for their POP accounts.

Sorry, but that is just not a true statement. After reading the second go-round it is obvious the only people getting decent battery life are those who are shutting nearly every function of the Pre off. Then why have one? If you have to shut everything off to use it, why have it? A lot of people in that thread identify themselves as "business" users, which Palm has also scrubbed from their website. The only thing I can now find about the Pre suggests it is for home use only.

Wow. It's almost like Palm expects a class action lawsuit over battery life.

jabberwolf said:

The same specs on the iphone are 5 hours for 3G and it doesnt even come CLOSE,,, its a flop, a failure.

Actually, it does far worse in real-life usage, but that's ok. Apple said up-front the use of 3G will drastically shorten battery life. See for yourself.

Quote :

"All battery claims depend on network configuration and many other factors; actual results will vary. Rechargeable batteries have a limited number of charge cycles and may eventually need to be replaced by an Apple service provider. See www.apple.com/batteries for more information. For more details of iPhone performance tests for talk time, standby time, Internet use over 3G, Internet use over Wi-Fi, video playback, and audio playback, see www.apple.com/iphone/battery.html."

Now, I dare you to visit Palm, and paste here ANY information about Pre battery life.

Go on. We'll wait.

jabberwolf said:

The iphone? Still no swappable battery, you ARE STUCK!

Actually, since you brought up third-party, there are many "add-on" battery packs available for the iPhone. Like the one from Mophie. But the point is, I don't have to shut everything that makes my iPhone useful to have great battery life. I use Apple's push e-mail so my mail comes in constantly, I have several news alerts set up to send me text messages throughout the day, and I am using the phone on and off and rare is the time when I can't make it through the day - and even then, it's because I have fired up Wolfenstein.

jabberwolf said:

And the iphone ALSO USES A LITHIUM POLYMER LITHIUM POLYMER BATTERY DOH !!

I'm sorry... was someone disputing this for some reason. Yes, the iPhone has a lithium polymer battery. If that's a bad thing, then we can spank the Pre for having one...

[1MacGeek]

rfceo said:

Actually you need to learn to read not necessarily games ....

Actually, it is you who can't read. I specifically said game developers, and you changed the subject. You changed the subject because I was right, and you just didn't feel like being slapped around so you changed the topic to "developers in general".

rfceo said:

I don't want a toy with a whole lot of games, I want a smartphone that can multitask and
handle my basic business needs as well as my personal calenders etc.

And that will mean a broke, out-of-business Palm.

Palm is making zero off the store it didn't create or control, because every app is free. I never said the Pre would not have developers, I said it would have a lot of crap apps until it can put several million units on the streets, which is a very questionable proposition given Palm's current financial health.

And speaking of financial health, Palm reports their numbers for the latest quarter tomorrow, so we will know a lot more about that then.

[guitz]

Remember the days when you didn't have a cellphone , and were completely indifferent to having one??.......I think all the 'bells and whistles' have rotted peoples brains into thinking this is something they can't live without. Silly people.

[1MacGeek]

rfceo said:

interesting that you point your link to the 6th of June the LAUNCH DATE.

I pointed to the more recent, as-yet-unclosed forum set up by Palm for people who HAD updated to 1.0.3 and still had battery life issues. It is six pages deep so far.

But let's hear from more Pre owners on the Palm message boards. The ones that, according to some here, are just doofuses for not having their phones set correctly :

"The phone is a work of genius & feels great but is missing so many things that should have been no brainers that I am reluctantly keeping it because of my loyalty to Sprint & because I have so hyped up this phone to friends that I dare not trade now."

"I am losing patience with Palm over the too many hardware problems and reception issue. If I cannot make or receive calls with a PHONE, I am going to take it back for a refund."

"I'm probably keeping mine since there's no better option on Sprint for my needs."

"My battery goes down while it is being charged in the car. Odd eh?"

And it just keeps getting funnier, and funnier...

But the most amazing thing I discovered was THIS. How did people get maximum battery life? By shutting down nearly all functionality of the Pre and NOT USING IT.

Let make sure we're all on the same page here : the solution to long-life battery bliss being pitched - with Palm's tacit approval - is to NOT USE THE PRE.

And yet, I am all kinds of evil when I suggest the Pre is a steaming pile of crap.

You people really need to grow up and face reality for what it is. Like I said before - lay off the weed, people.

[rfceo]

Maybe they need a fart app that would be crap, oh wait iPhone has that so it must be a wonderful app.

the apps coming out for the webOS so far have been very high quality apps and with only a couple of

weeks after launch they continue to be released by more developers. Apps are free right now because the

App catalog is in Beta, as are some apps. Not all apps are even in the catalog at the moment, Intuit has their

Credit Card proccesing app available for the Pre already and not in the catalog.



You said a few pages back that you never said anything about Palm going broke but here you say it again.

You are so full of yourself in your WALLED GARDEN

[1MacGeek]

rfceo said:

Apps are free right now because the App catalog is in Beta, as are some apps.

No. The apps are free because the SDK hasn't been released yet. Can't have an App Store without any officially blessed developers, can we?

Please... lay off the weed. It's just getting embarrassing, y'know...

[rfceo]

http://discussions.a...055703&tstart=0

Has Apple acknowledged the battery problem with new 3Gs?

Posted: Jun 24, 2009 6:44 AM
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They state that the new phone's battery is supposed to be better and yet so many people (including myself) see that it is far worse than the old 3G! Mine was 100% fully charged when I got up at 7am. It's now 9:45am and it's down to 62% already! I've hardly used it today. Push is off.

Apple really struggle when they come to the battery performance in their products! I wish they would spend more money in research for better longer lasting ones!

EVEN Apple is having battery issues apparently... this from apples own forum

[rfceo]

SDK is already in the hands of several hundred developers.
posted on palm developers site 6-19-2009
Our goal is to make the SDK available to everyone by the end of this summer, and to get there in stages:
* Beginning immediately, we’ll accelerate the growth of the early access program, expanding as quickly as resources allow. Over the next few weeks, the program will grow from hundreds to thousands of developers.
* Simultaneously, we’ll begin publishing more content outside the early access program, and we’ll launch new confidentiality rules that will allow early Mojo developers to communicate more freely with the rest of the world.
* As soon as we can, we’ll open the SDK to all legitimate requests.

http://pdnblog.palm.com/

[1MacGeek]

rfceo said:

Has Apple acknowledged the battery problem with new 3Gs?

If there really is a problem Apple will correct it as they always have. That's one of the reason Apple commands such fierce customer loyalty.

Now - will Palm acknowledge delaying the release of the SDK until AFTER summer?
I know. I'm just making it up again. I know you guys will try to deny reality, so here it is from Palm. I love this one :

"I?ve read the RoughCuts book and it hasn?t allowed me to get an app in customers? hands. I?ve worked with the various community site and it hasn?t allowed me to get an app in customers? hands. I?ve built a couple apps using the community methods available without the SDK, but it hasn?t allowed me to get an app in customers? hands.

You have developers climbing all over themselves trying to help your platform be a success and trying to help your ecosystem grow, but you just keep putting us off with vague promises of releasing Soon or the End of the Summer or Early Access or ?hundreds? and ?thousands?, but the longer you delay actually getting the SDK in the hands of developers like myself who are ready, willing, and able to use it to make your platform a success the more of an uphill battle it will be once you finally do.

I?ve been an applicant for the early access program for I don?t know how long, but right now I can release apps for the iPhone, I can release apps for Windows Mobile, and I can release apps for the BlackBerry. I can?t release apps for the Pre and so I just can?t commit scarce development resources based on vague promises and half-finished books."

It will be interesting to see you guys try to spin this as a positive for Palm, and to see how Palm deals with very angry developers. I predict this will weigh on the stock tomorrow, and possibly outshine the reporting on what will certainly be very bad news coming from Palm later today.

[1MacGeek]

rfceo said:

SDK is already in the hands of several hundred developers.

And, as I have shown, despite this there are developers not able to release software that want to release it. Deny it if you will, but you just look foolish doing so.

[rfceo]

you said there were NO DEVELOPERS

[1MacGeek]

rfceo said:

you said there were NO DEVELOPERS

Wrong again, lizard breath. I have never said there were no developers - I said quite clearly GAME DEVELOPERS. I also said they were not jumping on board until several million units were out the door, which may never happen.

Go try to find me a press release on Pre support from Activision. Go on. I double-dog dare you.

Find one from ANY major developer of game software. Go on, we'll wait.

[rfceo]

to quote you
No. The apps are free because the SDK hasn't been released yet. Can't have an App Store without any officially blessed developers, can we?
There are several hundred "officially blessed developers"

YOU are the one who is ONLY interested in games