Sony Reveals PS3 Slim, Slashes PS3 Price to $300
#4
Posted 18 August 2009 - 12:42 PM
But good job Sony on cutting MFR'ing costs and taking the box off steroids. Why couldn't they make it this way in the first place? Releasing the same machine a second time doesn't make sense to me. Nintendo did it twice and sony did it 3 times. Sega did it a couple times too. MSFT hasn't needed too. Is it me or does the Xbox 360 remind you of Nigmatech's box.....?!
#6
Posted 18 August 2009 - 03:03 PM
The last thing it is is boring. There's not another media Center that can do what it can, and there's not another gaming console that can do what it can do. XBox online, still a subscription I beleive. PS3 online always free.
#7
Posted 18 August 2009 - 07:13 PM
xbox 360 can do that too via Netflix
2.Best blu-ray player
If you're streaming the movies like you said you don't really need a blu-ray player
3.Regular software updates
xbox 360 gets them too and in my personal experience, the xbox updates are faster
4.Has it's own browsers
Not very useful unless you want to download a custom theme
5.Install a second operating system
Performs kinda crappily because the ps3 doesn't have much ram; why not just use a computer?
6.Not another gaming console that can do what it can do
I don't know about you but I have a computer for most of the functions you listed
7.Xbox live cost money, PSN is free
xbox live is only $50/year. That isn't that much since most games cost $60. In my honest opinion, I've had more fun with xbox live in the past 3 days then with PSN for the past year.
In conclusion, I'm going to have to agree with johnwalterman that the PS3 is quite boring. Especially with the lack of xbox exclusives such as Mass Effect, Gears of War, and of course Halo.
Edit: Oh and the changes they've made to the ps3 since the 60gb are terrible. Removing usb ports, backwards compatibility, and card readers? What were you thinking sony?
#9
Posted 18 August 2009 - 07:28 PM
People are learning there's alot more to a console than playing games. Microsoft is already behind without Blu-Ray support, now they're going to have pricing problems.
At least they have Windows 7 ready to launch.
#10
Posted 18 August 2009 - 07:30 PM
Read my whole post...
"While you're busy streaming NetFlix, PS3 owners are streaming all thier own movies, instantly in full HD."
Netflix offers HD aswell. Plus, xbox comes with hdtv cables.
Edit: How do you go about streaming movies on your ps3 anyways?
#11
Posted 18 August 2009 - 07:31 PM
Edit: I bought a game console to play games. Yes all the added features are nice, but the focus shouldn't be on all these new features. It should be on the gaming experience.
#12
Posted 18 August 2009 - 08:01 PM
You really think that's far away for the PS3, since Sony got it for the new Bravia? A free cable? Wow!! :-)
" How do you go about streaming movies on your ps3 anyways?"
The PS3 is a DLNA device. All you need is a server (TVersity, PS3MediaServer, etc.) running on your PC and the two will find each other. All my photos, music and movies (DVD and Blu-Ray) are instantly available on my TV via the PS3. Its really very cool and very easy. Sorry... the X-Box isn't DLNA. It is a great gaming console, but not much more in any broad sense. The PS3 has evolved a real total entertainment center that also happens to play games.
#13
Posted 18 August 2009 - 10:12 PM
Dazzle White pro
#15
Posted 19 August 2009 - 06:10 AM
A console is basically a computer in another form factir. Everything PS# can do I can do with any PC. However PS3 vs Xbox. I don't consider Blu-Ray to be a selling point...why do you? Here's why. Blu-Ray compared to the original DVD has a poor adoption rate. Unless you go out and spend at least $1500 on a HDTV, another at least $500 on a HD Soundsystem and $30 for each HDMI cable...those Blu_ray movies look and sound no different than any other movie. Its a glorifed DVD player at best that just happens to play games. Games that are expensive. Now, I personally haven't bought any more comsoles since the N64 and the original PS. But I have played them. I just can't get into them anymore. Howveer, MSFT chrging $50 per year ffor what Xbox offers is cheap. The best things in life aren't always free. The best things in life cost money...LOTS OF IT.
Xbox is a much easier system to develop for vs PS3. Games come out quicker. You don't need to spend $5000 in extra money to benefit fro the power Xbox offers. Sony is a company that got into video games bec they were forced to, not bec they wanted too. Sony is good at making audio/visual hardware and still are. The 1st Playstation was very good and so was PS2. PS3 is to expensive to fast, the technology was to fancy to fast and the only reason many ppl own one is bec at Xmas the xbox was hard to keep on the shelf and teh PS3 was everywhere. Many ppl would rather have a Wii than a PS3. ook at the sales numbers. Sony is trying to get buyers by making it smaller and creating another ugly case.The price drop may help...but thatmeans Sony will lose even more money on each sale. More than MSFT is losing.
#16
Posted 19 August 2009 - 06:38 AM
Blu-Ray isn't a selling poit. If you don't have a $5000 audio/visual system then the blu-ray is nothing more than a dvd player. The Xbox not having blue-ray isn't a non-selling point. The Wii doesn't have blu-ray either. Xbox games sell 4 to 1 over PS3...consoles sell 3 to 1. MSFT is certainly losing money on each console sold just like Sony...but MSFT is selling enough games to make up much of the lose...is Sony? Not at a 4 to 1 ratio they aren't. Unless Sony does something really creative with the next console...I see them being the next Sega.
#17
Posted 19 August 2009 - 08:57 AM
TechieXP's comment is weird because you complain about the price of buying an entertainment system and call the PS3 games expensive, yet you give the 360 a pass (though PS3 and 360 games are the same price) and say that "The best things in life costs money...LOTS OF IT." You killed yourself, sir.
As for rinoxous, I don't understand how you bash the PS3 if you don't fully understand how it works or its capabilities. MediaMall's PlayOn app works great in streaming virtually anything from your Internet connected PC. You can stream local media and Internet content like Hulu, Netflix, ESPN, GameTrailers, SpikeTV, YouTube, etc.
This is where the game systems differ. In my experience, the PS3 is better at playing videos. I am using the 360's HD cables and my PS3 is connected via HDMI. My PS3 is using the WiFi to connect to my DLink DIR-655 (I have 10Mbps cable internet) while the 360 is using the ethernet cable. Now, when I stream Netflix from Live, I get borders on the sides of the picture for most of my movies, even when my PC is off. I cannot get HD video on my 360 via Netflix. The PS3 doesn't show HD via PlayOn either, but the video is the whole screen and it looks just fine...over wi-fi. I like to own my flicks to show to company when they come over. Watching Dark Knight, Iron Man or even Planet Earth on Blu-Ray with the right system is incredible. The bandwith a person would need to get the same picture quality, smooth and uninterrupted, financially doesn't make sense when you can get these movies in deals from Amazon for $20-$30/ea. There are a few flicks that you NEED to watch in 1080p anyway so why pay for streaming 1080 when you aren't going ot watch it anyway?
As for gaming, the 360 still has the edge IMO, just slightly. There is more of a real community on Live versus the PSN. Downloading videos to watch can be a pain on the PSN when the videos stream instantly on the 360. The party system is sweet, but I hate the points system. I understand the business reasons behind it, but it still sucks IMO.
Bashing a system by talking out of your a is pathetic when both systems are faily equal. People can harp on the sales of the PS3 but it has sold over 20mil units worldwide so it's here to stay. The whole PS3 has no games arguement is gone. Nearly every game you would buy from Gamestop or rent from Gamefly is available for both systems and are identical. The PS3 has some exclusives and the 360 have some exclusives. These exclusives are fun to play. I had fun playing Gears 2 and Left for Dead just as much as I did Killzone 2 and inFamous (though the PS3 have no real answer to PGR4 and Forza 2 right now). I wish that fanboy 'ish and "I'm just stating my opinion" when it is baseless 'ish would die already. Both systems are great for what they do and they are virtually equal right now. Those that can afford it should get both, but if you can't you'll be alright with either one for the most part.
#18
Posted 19 August 2009 - 10:13 AM
PS3--------------------> WiFi,Blu Ray,Free Service,Doesn't break a lot.
Upcoming titles---------------------> Uncharted 2, MAG, God of War 3............. and Now only $299 (120gb system)
360------------------------> No Wifi, No Blu Ray, $50 Service, Breaks a lot
Upcoming titles---------------> Halo ODST, Forza 3 (not bad), there's more but don't really care............ and Rumor says: (Elite 120gb $299)
* Is it that hard for MS to drop the price. The PS3 clearly has more for the price. That's the bottom line Now! There's a new Captain in town
carlosrivera09 : You are right about a lot of stuff. I think the only thing going for 360 is XboxLive, even though it's $50 bucks. I still have a lot of friends playing, but I think more people are going to be playing PS3 now. I think a lot of these people will be xbox fans converting over :o)
#19
Posted 19 August 2009 - 11:36 AM
So how about this way...both system can produce HD quality. This is a standard set by another company and thus they both meet that qualification. Blu-Ray the format that lost the war is basically what the PS3 is...it just happens to play games. The PS3's biggest highlight is Blu-Ray? Well Xbox can play DVD's too, but that isn't its most important feature. Just like iPhone...its most important feature should be the phone. Yet it isn't.
As I said, in order to enjoy Blu_ray you need a full expensive HDTV and sound system to produce it...making you spend another $3000 at least. While Xbox even though it can play movies and has full HD and no blue-ray can be enjoy thoroughly wothout the extras.
A benefit is only benficial if you can use it. SOmeone mentioned well you can install an OS onto it. Well I can with both Xboxes if I wanted too...but I thought that is what a PC is for. PS3 is a developers nightmare as teh game aren't even as good as the same game played on the Xbox. The graphics are cheesy even in full HD.
Its a gaming comsoles and everything PS3 owners brag about have nothing to do with gaming. So, MSFT charges $50 a year to have games that don't need disks. Look at the library of games. Does Sony offer that much? If its free it means you're not getting what I am getting. If I want to watch BR movies I have a PC with a Blu-Ray drive and my video card has an HDMI port...I can do that for less than what either system cost and do ALL of the things they can do. I can even play PS and PS2 and Xbox games on my PC and have done so.
Hardcore gamers are saying PS3 doesn't cut it. The fact that developers are still having problems making good games. It simply takes to long. Its quicker and easier and more lucrative to make them on Xbox first and port them over.
#20
Posted 19 August 2009 - 12:48 PM
Blu Ray did not lose the war. It actually won the war. HD DVD lost the war, which is why you don't see that format around anymore...It's doesn't matter what you can do with your PC. This is a console war we are talking about right now. I work too much on my PC at work, so when I get home it's the last thing I want to see. I like sitting in my family room and using my multi media power system the PS3. So it's good to know that if I need some computer funtions, their right there on the PS3. I don't have to walk in my computer room. By the way, where's that thing called the external HD DVD for the 360 lately?????????
Oh, it lost the war. Maybe MS will put a Blu Ray on the next console. As far as price, Real GAMERS DON'T CARE! THEY JUST PLAY (no offense, I just really mean this) So please don't try to tell me who's a real gamer. As far as developers, PS3 has most of the same games as 360 and they actually look better on the PS3. It took MS for ever just to add the HDMI on all the 360's. PS3 has been true 1080P from day one. Yesss, PS3 has better graphics....nothing else to say about that. So if you can't afford the heat get out the kitchen. These systems weren't meant to be played on 1080P HDTV's with True HD sound for the ultimate gaming experience. That's what true gamers do....
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