[KStrawn]

Apple and Microsoft are both bad in my opinion, but Apple is far worse the way they lock their OS. Microsoft is no different, forcing you to type product keys to verify that your copy of Windows is genuine. The only thing that really matters is open source, no further discussion. I want Google to rescue open source with Chrome OS!!!!

[waldojim]

And why do you feel the need to troll into the Mac forum to spread your message of hate?

[KStrawn]

Sorry, Waldo, for trolling. Did you get my PM?

[techie4fun]

KStrawn, on 08 October 2009 - 02:04 PM, said:

Apple and Microsoft are both bad in my opinion, but Apple is far worse the way they lock their OS. Microsoft is no different, forcing you to type product keys to verify that your copy of Windows is genuine.

Don't forget you've got 30 days to activate Windows before the software is locked out.

[piyushsingh]

techie4fun, on 23 October 2009 - 02:07 PM, said:

KStrawn, on 08 October 2009 - 02:04 PM, said:

Apple and Microsoft are both bad in my opinion, but Apple is far worse the way they lock their OS. Microsoft is no different, forcing you to type product keys to verify that your copy of Windows is genuine.

Don't forget you've got 30 days to activate Windows before the software is locked out.

Hi tff
in vista you can go upto 120 days i guess. After initial 30 days just put in the rearm command and wow it goes another 30 days and this can be done 2 times i guess.
Not sure about win7 as i dont hav eit in my systems at this time. Maybe you can did somethign similar up .

[piyushsingh]

KStrawn, on 08 October 2009 - 02:04 PM, said:

Apple and Microsoft are both bad in my opinion, but Apple is far worse the way they lock their OS. Microsoft is no different, forcing you to type product keys to verify that your copy of Windows is genuine. The only thing that really matters is open source, no further discussion. I want Google to rescue open source with Chrome OS!!!!

hmm why would the activation thing make an OS good or bad ?
They have to ensure something to stop illegal copies of their OS. Perfectly fine in my opinion.

[waldojim]

piyushsingh, on 27 October 2009 - 12:54 AM, said:

KStrawn, on 08 October 2009 - 02:04 PM, said:

Apple and Microsoft are both bad in my opinion, but Apple is far worse the way they lock their OS. Microsoft is no different, forcing you to type product keys to verify that your copy of Windows is genuine. The only thing that really matters is open source, no further discussion. I want Google to rescue open source with Chrome OS!!!!

hmm why would the activation thing make an OS good or bad ?
They have to ensure something to stop illegal copies of their OS. Perfectly fine in my opinion.

Windows Genuine Advantage is used to prevent theft.
Activation is to LOCK the os to your hardware!

BTW - a good friend of mine built a brand new PC, then installed Vista, activated it did his genuine check etc, and when he added 4gb of ram later that week (it was on sale) it made him REACTIVATE! MS will only let you do this a few times before saying it is no longer elligable to be activated!

This post has been edited by waldojim: 27 October 2009 - 01:36 AM

[piyushsingh]

waldojim, on 27 October 2009 - 01:34 AM, said:

piyushsingh, on 27 October 2009 - 12:54 AM, said:

KStrawn, on 08 October 2009 - 02:04 PM, said:

Apple and Microsoft are both bad in my opinion, but Apple is far worse the way they lock their OS. Microsoft is no different, forcing you to type product keys to verify that your copy of Windows is genuine. The only thing that really matters is open source, no further discussion. I want Google to rescue open source with Chrome OS!!!!

hmm why would the activation thing make an OS good or bad ?
They have to ensure something to stop illegal copies of their OS. Perfectly fine in my opinion.

Windows Genuine Advantage is used to prevent theft.
Activation is to LOCK the os to your hardware!

BTW - a good friend of mine built a brand new PC, then installed Vista, activated it did his genuine check etc, and when he added 4gb of ram later that week (it was on sale) it made him REACTIVATE! MS will only let you do this a few times before saying it is no longer elligable to be activated!

I guess the original poster used the word activation in both senses.

Coming to true activation , the way they do is sort of necessary. Otherwise how wud keep track of OEM distibution being used on may PCs.

[waldojim]

piyushsingh, on 27 October 2009 - 03:03 AM, said:

waldojim, on 27 October 2009 - 01:34 AM, said:

piyushsingh, on 27 October 2009 - 12:54 AM, said:

KStrawn, on 08 October 2009 - 02:04 PM, said:

Apple and Microsoft are both bad in my opinion, but Apple is far worse the way they lock their OS. Microsoft is no different, forcing you to type product keys to verify that your copy of Windows is genuine. The only thing that really matters is open source, no further discussion. I want Google to rescue open source with Chrome OS!!!!

hmm why would the activation thing make an OS good or bad ?
They have to ensure something to stop illegal copies of their OS. Perfectly fine in my opinion.

Windows Genuine Advantage is used to prevent theft.
Activation is to LOCK the os to your hardware!

BTW - a good friend of mine built a brand new PC, then installed Vista, activated it did his genuine check etc, and when he added 4gb of ram later that week (it was on sale) it made him REACTIVATE! MS will only let you do this a few times before saying it is no longer elligable to be activated!

I guess the original poster used the word activation in both senses.

Coming to true activation , the way they do is sort of necessary. Otherwise how wud keep track of OEM distibution being used on may PCs.

in the same breath should you really have to buy a new license should you buy that machine a new motherboard? Ram? Harddrive? etc...

Or what if my HP dies, and I say to heck with it, and build a new machine, why not transfer the license? Greed.

[AppleClassAct]

I was mostly ambivalent to Apple until just yesterday. I even had an iPhone for over a year. Then I made the disastrous decision to upgrade to iOS4. iTunes claimed it was backing up all my data. But as one techie at Apple informed me, "That means nothing". If it ever really did attempt a back up it never checked that the back up was successful. It never warned me that it was about to wipe my drive and I should double check that everything was backed up. Then it proceeded to blissfully wipe my drive without a second thought and then ask if I wanted to restore are set up as a new phone. Needless to say, I wanted my data back. But that was not in the cards. All Apple techies can do is blame the user. Well if you had a back up this would not have have happened. Well if they had warned me like M$ does when it is about to do something this drastic, I would have a good back up now wouldn't I. Apple is always blame the user. I consider this to be blatant reckless negligence. Any one who agrees can follow me on Twitter, AppleClassAct same name on gmail.