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Post your comments for First Look: Android Version 2.2 (Froyo) with Flash Player 10.1 here

[ScottStoner]

Ummm... Bluetooth phone dialing?

[cosmosm3]

PCWorld, on 20 May 2010 - 08:13 AM, said:

Post your comments for First Look: Android Version 2.2 (Froyo) with Flash Player 10.1 here

i agree with newbie. we need bluetooth voice dialing!

[samiup]

whoooohaaaaaaaaaaaaa !

FLASH content on my phone, is that awesome or what?

[Cruc]

Google TV, FM radio, ChromeOS mode.

[ArbraMarshall]

ScottStoner, on 20 May 2010 - 08:48 AM, said:

Ummm... Bluetooth phone dialing?

It's nice that Google keep improving Android, but I too want Voice Dialing over Bluetooth! Gotta have it, yet Google seems strangely silent on the issue. Come on Google, get it together and provide what you've promised! Just DO IT!

[ampmcst]

I'm waiting for the following features:

1) Day, date and time display on home screen without needing an App for it.

2) Selection of font size through Settings or ability to zoom-up in gmail and the browser.

3) Tethering as a modem for the notebook-pc.

Thanks!

[PhilipD'Agostino]

Wow. This is by far and away the best review of flash on the Android handset. It's almost like Adobe paid PCWorld to write it for them.

Everyone else seems to say that the video refresh is slow and choppy, that most flash games don't actually work on mobile devices, and that both ABC and Hulu have blocked, and will continue to block access to their sites from mobile devices running flash.

"Our goal, clearly, is that most Flash content should just work. But some sites are going to work better than others," said Adobe technical marketing director Anup Murarka. Almost all existing flash based sites need to be re-designed to accomodate touch screen gesturers and mobile screen sizes. If you have to do that already, why don't you just use HMTL web standards?

The truth is that flash on a mobile handset provides absolutely nothing for a user except for frustration. I can't wait until android users start browsing the web and find flash sites that don't suppport touch gestures while their phones start blasting embedded commercials and delivering spyware. Sounds AWESOME!

[redmccarthy]

"...will initially be available to Motorola Droid and Nexus One owners in June"

Awesome! I couldn't be happier with my Droid as it is, but who could say no to more shiny things?

Now since this will be ready in "June", based on my experience with the 2.1 update us Droid owners should expect it sometime in September or October.

[jmklei0]

Looking forward to an FM Transmitter built into the phone. Seems like it should be able to be done already.

[DonniesDad]

This could be the "iPhone Killer". Everyone though it would be an actual device, but it looks like it'll actually be a mobile OS that "kills" the iPhone.

Once this version of OS is stable and working efficiently, nobody will care about iPhones anymore unless they want a lot of Fart apps.

[Cruc]

PhilipD'Agostino says:
Thu May 20 10:18:56 PDT 2010
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Almost all existing flash based sites need to be re-designed to accomodate touch screen gesturers and mobile screen sizes. If you have to do that already, why don't you just use HMTL web standards?

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Some levels of interactivity and effects you simply cannot do yet in HTML5. It's not a swiss army knife that solves everything, and some developers don't want to take a step backwards while they wait for the new standard to catch up.

"The truth is that flash on a mobile handset provides absolutely nothing for a user except for frustration."

Oh.. disregard my previous statement, hater.

[GinnyMies]

PhilipD, on 20 May 2010 - 09:18 AM, said:

Wow. This is by far and away the best review of flash on the Android handset. It's almost like Adobe paid PCWorld to write it for them.

Everyone else seems to say that the video refresh is slow and choppy, that most flash games don't actually work on mobile devices, and that both ABC and Hulu have blocked, and will continue to block access to their sites from mobile devices running flash.

"Our goal, clearly, is that most Flash content should just work. But some sites are going to work better than others," said Adobe technical marketing director Anup Murarka. Almost all existing flash based sites need to be re-designed to accomodate touch screen gesturers and mobile screen sizes. If you have to do that already, why don't you just use HMTL web standards?

The truth is that flash on a mobile handset provides absolutely nothing for a user except for frustration. I can't wait until android users start browsing the web and find flash sites that don't suppport touch gestures while their phones start blasting embedded commercials and delivering spyware. Sounds AWESOME!

No, Adobe did not pay me or PC World for this review. At least, not that I know of. I pointed out the issues with Hulu and Flash games not optimized for mobile. I also called out a few sites that were slow and choppy. Maybe you skipped over that part.

[samiup]

PhilipD, on 20 May 2010 - 09:18 AM, said:

Wow. This is by far and away the best review of flash on the Android handset. It's almost like Adobe paid PCWorld to write it for them.

Everyone else seems to say that the video refresh is slow and choppy, that most flash games don't actually work on mobile devices, and that both ABC and Hulu have blocked, and will continue to block access to their sites from mobile devices running flash.

"Our goal, clearly, is that most Flash content should just work. But some sites are going to work better than others," said Adobe technical marketing director Anup Murarka. Almost all existing flash based sites need to be re-designed to accomodate touch screen gesturers and mobile screen sizes. If you have to do that already, why don't you just use HMTL web standards?

The truth is that flash on a mobile handset provides absolutely nothing for a user except for frustration. I can't wait until android users start browsing the web and find flash sites that don't suppport touch gestures while their phones start blasting embedded commercials and delivering spyware. Sounds AWESOME!

actually, ANDROID users are a little bit more tech educated than Apple herd of brain damaged, semi educated mutants.
as an ANDROID user, i do not need to read a full article to understand that the already existing Flash web content may or may NOT work perfectly on my phone because it was made for a mouse and keyboard not for touch and slide, that is no rocket science and you dont need to be a genius to figure that out on your own.

for a starter, ill be enjoying all the Facebook video feeds on my ANDROID phone while you will be looking at those little cubes surrounded with emptiness on your iPhone
i will be also enjoying videos from various sites like South Park Studios, Fox, TNT, The New York Times, the BBC etc... and ill enjoy the plethora of games that works fine on mobile
and ill be waiting on other sites like Hulu to work their way to mobile enabled Flash.

if a website crashes, ill simply close the browser, and if i dont want any FLASH content, ill turn Flash support OFF

meanwhile, you can keep enjoying your cubes of emptiness whenever you hit a Flash content that you are BANNED from viewing, and keep pondering on how Flash is maybe/maybe not irrelevant for smart phones.

This post has been edited by samiup: 20 May 2010 - 09:55 AM

[SeanLeroysBoySanders]

PhilipD, on 20 May 2010 - 09:18 AM, said:

Wow. This is by far and away the best review of flash on the Android handset. It's almost like Adobe paid PCWorld to write it for them.

Everyone else seems to say that the video refresh is slow and choppy, that most flash games don't actually work on mobile devices, and that both ABC and Hulu have blocked, and will continue to block access to their sites from mobile devices running flash.

"Our goal, clearly, is that most Flash content should just work. But some sites are going to work better than others," said Adobe technical marketing director Anup Murarka. Almost all existing flash based sites need to be re-designed to accomodate touch screen gesturers and mobile screen sizes. If you have to do that already, why don't you just use HMTL web standards?

The truth is that flash on a mobile handset provides absolutely nothing for a user except for frustration. I can't wait until android users start browsing the web and find flash sites that don't suppport touch gestures while their phones start blasting embedded commercials and delivering spyware. Sounds AWESOME!

your actually right. if developers gonna have to optimize it for mobile device that might as well do it in html5. on engadget they said & showed how buggy flash was & how html was a lot more crisp & fluied (i cant spell)

[Chasera]

PCWorld, on 20 May 2010 - 08:13 AM, said:

Post your comments for First Look: Android Version 2.2 (Froyo) with Flash Player 10.1 here

A few other posters have mentioned this but it's important...what about hands free voice dialing while driving? What about the "searching for GPS" while attempting to use Google Maps. This happens frequently when attempting to navigate. Very frustrating when you have a real estate client in your vehicle!

[samiup]

Cruc, on 20 May 2010 - 09:41 AM, said:

PhilipD'Agostino says:
Thu May 20 10:18:56 PDT 2010
...
Almost all existing flash based sites need to be re-designed to accomodate touch screen gesturers and mobile screen sizes. If you have to do that already, why don't you just use HMTL web standards?

===

Some levels of interactivity and effects you simply cannot do yet in HTML5. It's not a swiss army knife that solves everything, and some developers don't want to take a step backwards while they wait for the new standard to catch up.

"The truth is that flash on a mobile handset provides absolutely nothing for a user except for frustration."

Oh.. disregard my previous statement, hater.

you'll be surprised how many Apple users think that moving from Flash to HTML5 is done by editing some script file and exchanging a <Flash> tag with some kind of an <HTML5> tag lol

[9Nails]

PCWorld, on 20 May 2010 - 08:13 AM, said:

The next treat for Android fans is Gingerbread, coming in Q4 of 2010. What do you want to see in the next version of Android? Leave your answer in the comments below.

Next, I'd like to see improvements to the standard applications. The new 3D Photo Gallery and Camera interface is welcomed. And I'd like to see them branch out their application updates and to consolidate Gmail, Work Email, and Email into one client. I'd also like to see improvements to Messaging, Instant Messaging, and Chat - along these same lines of thinking. I'd also like to see improvements to the Calendar, Calculator, Contacts, Launcher. And finally, I think that they should add some more applications, such as a note taking app, and add touch enhancements to all phones supporting this feature, such as pinch-to-zoom.

This post has been edited by 9Nails: 20 May 2010 - 10:26 AM

[DavidEvartt]

porn apps are out but fart apps are ok on the iPhone? Can't say I'm a fan of either but I'm glad that Steve Jobs thinks the best platform is the Android.

Without his 'you have the freedom to choose a different platform' form of Zen consumerism, where would we all be?

The emperor has no clothes, never did. I bought my Nexus One the day they became available and am happy with it. Can't wait to see Froyo on it and tethering it to my laptop and robots.

Awesome to the power of G (google)

[nafhan]

PhilipD, on 20 May 2010 - 09:18 AM, said:

The truth is that flash on a mobile handset provides absolutely nothing for a user except for frustration. I can't wait until android users start browsing the web and find flash sites that don't suppport touch gestures while their phones start blasting embedded commercials and delivering spyware. Sounds AWESOME!

So... some stuff works instead of none. Mathematically speaking, that's infinitely better. Also, pretty sure you can turn Flash off, if it's causing more trouble than it's worth. Again, we run into having an option vs. not having an option.
Here's a usage scenario for you: leave Flash off most of the time, and turn it on when you come across a website you'd like to access that requires Flash. That would negate all the problems with Flash that you mentioned, and allow you to access content that would otherwise be inaccessible. Sounds good to me.