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Posted 05 October 2010 - 01:10 PM

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 02:35 PM

Just one more reason to dismiss Apple as pathetic.
Maybe iJobs should stop selling iPads, as they COULD be used to hit someone over the head and cause personal injury!
And yet the FanBoys will remain loyal - a while longer!
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Posted 05 October 2010 - 02:47 PM

View Postthewazak, on 05 October 2010 - 02:35 PM, said:

Just one more reason to dismiss Apple as pathetic.
Maybe iJobs should stop selling iPads, as they COULD be used to hit someone over the head and cause personal injury!
And yet the FanBoys will remain loyal - a while longer!

And it appears that your unreasoned bitterness towards Apple runs so deep that it will ultimately turn yourself inside out. There are so many intellectual property and copyright issues associated with bit torrent that it would be malpractice on apple's part offer the app for sale. You may be one of those who thinks that stealing software etc is okay. As one who has lost hundreds of thousands to those who think it's ok to pirate the work of others, I find the practice to be loathsome. that's not being a "fanboy" it just opposing larceny- not to mention the bandwidth required for the practice.
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Posted 05 October 2010 - 03:02 PM

Developers need to keep in mind that if they don't put 70% of their income or more into apple's pockets they are not going to get their apps approved. If an app fails to put some profits in their pockets they will not approve it - it is all about sucking all the money they can out of their fanboys -as often and as much as they can - all the time. If an app allows the sharing of apps that would threaten part of their profits they will not approve it. Thank God for jailbreaking code. Fanboys always find some sort of delusional thinking to justify and applaud apples anti-competitive strategies.
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Posted 05 October 2010 - 03:18 PM

This is one of the many reasons I didn't jump from my (much-loved) iPod Touch to an iPhone. I wanted a phone that I owned...not Steve Jobs.

I bought an Android phone and I'm glad I did. I have "AndTorrent" running as a bitorrent client. I can use "TransDroid" to manage my Torrent server at home over 3G - starting, stopping and pausing torrents...or searching for new ones. I can side-load apps. I get apps from any source and install them. I can copy files on and off the phone many different ways...and no iTunes. I have dozens of models to choose from on every carrier.

Beautiful.
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Posted 05 October 2010 - 03:20 PM

One last comment. On Android, developers can - and do - sell their apps directly via their own web sites. PdaNet is one example. There are many. You can get 100% of the money for your app.
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Posted 05 October 2010 - 05:52 PM

View PostTruthSeekerNZ, on 05 October 2010 - 03:20 PM, said:

One last comment. On Android, developers can - and do - sell their apps directly via their own web sites. PdaNet is one example. There are many. You can get 100% of the money for your app.


Exept the ones that get torrented :lol:
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Posted 05 October 2010 - 07:37 PM

View Postnonseq, on 05 October 2010 - 02:47 PM, said:

View Postthewazak, on 05 October 2010 - 02:35 PM, said:

Just one more reason to dismiss Apple as pathetic.
Maybe iJobs should stop selling iPads, as they COULD be used to hit someone over the head and cause personal injury!
And yet the FanBoys will remain loyal - a while longer!

And it appears that your unreasoned bitterness towards Apple runs so deep that it will ultimately turn yourself inside out. There are so many intellectual property and copyright issues associated with bit torrent that it would be malpractice on apple's part offer the app for sale. You may be one of those who thinks that stealing software etc is okay. As one who has lost hundreds of thousands to those who think it's ok to pirate the work of others, I find the practice to be loathsome. that's not being a "fanboy" it just opposing larceny- not to mention the bandwidth required for the practice.


I'd like to point out the bittorrent protocol is an extremely useful & efficient & community oriented way to distribute anything digital. Legally.

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I can readily download the ISO to the latest version of CentOS 5.5 from various mirrors, yet older versions are mainly available from torrents. I just happen to need to load some RPMs specific to CentOS 5.4, so I simply bit-torrented it? And since I got it for 'free' it is simply decent to share at least until I put back as much as I took?

http://isoredirect.c.../5/isos/x86_64/
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Anyway, there is no other way to get older versions...

Just because there are drunks driving, doesn't make every car driver a criminal? Why should it be any different for Bit-Torrents? I simply use the best tools at my disposal to accomplish the task at hand.

Please nonseq, this is in no way a personal rebuff, or starting an argument with your views. I'm merely pointing out how and what I use bit-torrent for. The others? Who knows? But that is none of my business.

Peace! :)

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Disclaimer: This is just my humble opinion -- In a free world, is everyone is entitled to their own opinions?
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Posted 06 October 2010 - 05:59 AM

View PostWinTard, on 05 October 2010 - 07:37 PM, said:

View Postnonseq, on 05 October 2010 - 02:47 PM, said:

View Postthewazak, on 05 October 2010 - 02:35 PM, said:

Just one more reason to dismiss Apple as pathetic.
Maybe iJobs should stop selling iPads, as they COULD be used to hit someone over the head and cause personal injury!
And yet the FanBoys will remain loyal - a while longer!

And it appears that your unreasoned bitterness towards Apple runs so deep that it will ultimately turn yourself inside out. There are so many intellectual property and copyright issues associated with bit torrent that it would be malpractice on apple's part offer the app for sale. You may be one of those who thinks that stealing software etc is okay. As one who has lost hundreds of thousands to those who think it's ok to pirate the work of others, I find the practice to be loathsome. that's not being a "fanboy" it just opposing larceny- not to mention the bandwidth required for the practice.


I'd like to point out the bittorrent protocol is an extremely useful & efficient & community oriented way to distribute anything digital. Legally.

Posted Image

I can readily download the ISO to the latest version of CentOS 5.5 from various mirrors, yet older versions are mainly available from torrents. I just happen to need to load some RPMs specific to CentOS 5.4, so I simply bit-torrented it? And since I got it for 'free' it is simply decent to share at least until I put back as much as I took?

http://isoredirect.c.../5/isos/x86_64/
Posted Image

Anyway, there is no other way to get older versions...

Just because there are drunks driving, doesn't make every car driver a criminal? Why should it be any different for Bit-Torrents? I simply use the best tools at my disposal to accomplish the task at hand.

Please nonseq, this is in no way a personal rebuff, or starting an argument with your views. I'm merely pointing out how and what I use bit-torrent for. The others? Who knows? But that is none of my business.

Peace! :)

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Live a good, honorable life. Then when you get older and think back, you'll be able to enjoy it a second time.
~ Dalai Lama

You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty.
~ Mahatma Gandhi, 1869-1948


I know some who use bit-torrent as you do and it's a good tool. I know many many many more who use it to download copyrighted media and software without paying a license and i think we will both agree that if the mobile space becomes a bit-torrent source there is great potential for bandwidth loss (for want of a better term). I have no doubt you use bit-torrent legitimately but i am sad to speculate for every one of you there are hundreds or even thousands who use it to avoid licensing or royalties.
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Posted 06 October 2010 - 06:13 AM

View Postnonseq, on 06 October 2010 - 05:59 AM, said:

I know some who use bit-torrent as you do and it's a good tool. I know many many many more who use it to download copyrighted media and software without paying a license and i think we will both agree that if the mobile space becomes a bit-torrent source there is great potential for bandwidth loss (for want of a better term). I have no doubt you use bit-torrent legitimately but i am sad to speculate for every one of you there are hundreds or even thousands who use it to avoid licensing or royalties.


I'd point out that this particular app was not conducting torrents over mobile bandwidth; it was basically a remote torrent management app. I rarely torrent anything, but that's the sort of thing I would use remote desktop for. I understand Apple's reasons though; rejecting the app is not about stopping people torrenting, but about not being in any way connected to the sale of a tool that could see them embroiled in legal action should it be used for illegal activities. It's another case of the abusers inconveniencing the legit users (though which is chicken and which is egg would be debatable).
If I dispute one single point in a post, that should not be taken as an indication that I agree/disagree with any other point made by that poster or anyone else in the thread. Or anywhere else. Ever.
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