[brewer37]

Ok so I got my new mother baord got it in my case, and everything hooked up to it.. gave it power and it seemed as if for 6 seconds i did everything right, then it shuts its self off the whole system just shuts off.. the screen is black the whole time... My first guess was maybe my board was touching metal and shorting out, however it is not, all the screws go into copper nuts or w/e they are called. I tryed the whole unplug everything and plug it back in again.. same thing happened. I let it sit for a few hours same thing happened... all my components are fine, ram , cpu, and should all work great in this baord. my cpu heat sink was to large to fit in this board if the cpu isnt touching the heatsink would that cause the computer to shut off? I didt however have 3 of my case fans right on the cpu to ensure it would stay cool in the time it took just to see if my computer would work.. * also my power supply is only 230 watts and maybe with the new board and cpu it wasnt enough ( only a pentium 4 3.0 ghz ) so i unplugged some fans and my dvd drive basically the same thing happened... one last note.. one thing that is kind of wierd tho since i replaced the mother board is that as soon as i turn on my power supply the computer tries to turn on and then shuts off like with out even hitting my case power button it just kinda turns on then shuts down after 6 seconds i push the power button and nothing sorry so long hope some one can help me and if you need any more clarification just ask. :)

[mphenterprises]

[quote name='brewer37'] my cpu heat sink was to large to fit in this board if the cpu isnt touching the heatsink would that cause the computer to shut off?> {quote:title=brewer37 wrote:}{quote} also my power supply is only 230 wattsHi Brewer. Not having much luck with the whole computer thing, huh? LOL :wink: Okay, let's break this down, shall we? In the first quote, are you saying that you do not have a heatsink in the computer at all? Well, let me tell you, my friend, you must have a heatsink. Your CPU will generate heat in excess of 220+ degrees. The fans will do no good without the heatsink sitting directly on the CPU. The heatsink, along with coolant paste, will keep your CPU from frying itself. Please tell me you have a heatsink in there.Your second quote is something that I think we addressed previously. Your Power Supply wattage is WAY too low. In modern systems, no less than 450 is recommended.So, at this point, barring that you didn't fry your CPU, install the heatsink, if you haven't already and upgrade the Power Supply and try again.

[mjd420nova]

That power supply is badly under powered. You need at least 500 watts. The heat sink does need to be mounted to the CPU, with some heat sink compound inbetween.

[mphenterprises]

Brewer, there are no visible signs. Think of it this way, it's December, 10 degrees outside and you have to go to work. Would you start your car with no oil in it? The oil represents the heatsink's responsibility; to keep the CPU cool. You will not see any signs that your CPU is fried. One indication leads me to believe your CPU is at least damaged is when you said it stayed on for about 6 seconds. That's about as much time as it takes for your CPU to get up to critical temperature, especially during strartup.At this point, unless you want to throw money away, i would strongly advise you to get a heatsink that fits in your motherboard. if you try to do anything else, you run the risk of permanently damaging your CPU, if you haven't already and your motherboard.Also, buy a more powerful Power Supply. You can get great deals online at newegg.com and tigerdirect.com.And yes, you install the motherboard first and then the drivers but that should be the last thing on your mind right now.

[brewer37]

how do you know if you fryed your cpu? are there any visual signs? it looks fine , it looks almost bran new and shiny, also i think my computer automatically shut its self down befor it got to hot so i think im good??also i just want to clear things up you put your new mother baord in first and then install the drivers? right???

[brewer37]

ok so heres what i think is happening , could ya let me know if this sounds about right.. since I dont have a heat sink on my cpu, its running really hott < obviously > after 6 seconds my computer recognizes its to hott and shuts its self down.. Hopefully not doing any damage to the cpu solution buy a 10 dollar heat sink and fan from newegg problem fixed :) other wise im not sure this computer ( not this computer im at ) but my computer is worth even fixing-brewer

[StormX2]

underpoweredand holy hell thats the funnyest thing i ever herd in my life lolget a cooper HS and some AS5 thermal paste, do it right.if the proc is still ok, wich i should be fine, (when booting a computer, even n AMD k6 wont burn out without a HS) with that said and done you should be a ok

[mphenterprises]

That is not completely correct. You still have the problem of a weak Power Supply. You can get a 630 Watt Power Supply from newegg for $30. I am not sure what other deals they have but you NEED to change your Power Supply.Brewer, you took a very big risk installing your motherboard with no heatsink. The likelihood that your processor took that heat without any damage is very slim. Your system may turn on and it may work but there may be damage to the CPU that will cause problems at some point. Make sure whatever heatsink you get fixs securely in yous motherboard. If, once you get an upgraded Power Supply and a heatsink, your computer does not turn on...you now know your processor is dead.Question for you. Where did you buy the processor? Most Intel CPUs come paackaged with the a heatsink. with coolant paste, that will fit most motherboards.Moral of the story, pay very close attention to the directions and instructions given to you by the Motherboard manufacturer.Good Luck :)

[brewer37]

630 watts seems a little overboard i was thinking 400-450 lolwell my old cpu has the intel hs that came with it however its to big for the new board, and my new cpu didnt come with anything not even a box, it just kind of came in a plastic case...heres my motherboardhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157106and heres my cpuhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116027will this hs work??http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835150086it says pentium 4 socket 478 but in the specs in the compatibility my cpu isnt listed unless its the 3.06? since its not in the compatibility does that mean it will not work?

[mphenterprises]

In relation to the heatsink, the CPU doesn't come into play. The majority of current heatsink will fit into the predrilled holes in most modern motherboards.If you are not comfortable with that, you can go to Intel's website and try to find which type of heatsink is best for your particular motherboard/CPU combo. Take your CPU out of the motherboard and gently wipe off any thermal paste and use the writing on the CPU to search on Intel's site.My hutch is telling me this will work for you. To be honest, at $9...shoot, you can get three or four different heatsinks and experiment.