[PeggyFair]

Hi all,I am going to be replacing my 7 year old Gateway system. It's been good to me and still works it's just slow and I need a faster system. I will be buying both a laptop and a desktop and I will be using these new systems to surf the web, email, downloading and storing music(no more than 800 songs at any given time) and I also want to get into a little web design and graphic design for my own personal venture. I want to get another Gateway since they have been reliable for me. I spoke to the Gateway rep and here is what he suggested, please tell me if the memory, hard drive, processor, etc..is enough. Thanks!:Laptop:Gateway NX860SModify Item | Add Related Items.Express shipping not available on this item. $1,207.98 Remove $1,207.98 Hide Details Customized Options Processor Intel Pentium Dual-Core Mobile Processor T2060 (1.60GHz, 533MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache) Operating System Genuine Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 (Update Rollup 2) Memory 1024MB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (2-512MB modules) Hard Drive 60GB 5400rpm Serial ATA hard drive Display 17.0" WXGA TFT Active Matrix (1440 x 900 max. resolution) Optical Drive 24x/10x/24x CD-RW / 8x DVD Combo Drive Wireless Network Integrated Intel 3945 802.11a/b/g wireless networking Mobile Technology Features Intel Centrino Duo Mobile Technology Accidental Damage Plan Three years accidental damage plan Adapter 65 Watt AC Adapter Application Software Microsoft Works 8.5 Backup Media Cyberlink CDRW and PowerDVD Solution (2-Channel) (for Windows XP) Battery Primary 8-Cell Lithium Ion Battery w/ 1 Yr. limited battery warranty Chassis Chassis w/ Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 & Intel 943GML Chipset Expansion Slots One type II PC card slot External Ports (4) USB 2.0, VGA, IEEE 1394 (FireWire), S-Video (TV-Out) Internet Service Provider 90-day America Online Internet access Keyboard and Mouse Full-size keyboard w/ integrated 10-key pad and EZ Pad Pointing Device Media Card Reader 6-in-1 media card reader (MemoryStick, MemoryStick Pro, MultiMedia Card, Secure Digital, Mini Secure Digital, RS-MultiMedia Card) Modem Integrated V.92 56K modem Network Integrated Intel 10/100/1000 Ethernet Adapter Operating System Backup Media Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Backup Media Security Software McAfee 90-day Internet Security Suite Complimentary Subscription with VirusScan, Personal Firewall Plus, SpamKiller & Privacy Service (for Windows XP) Software Documentation End User License Agreement for Non-Microsoft Software Standard Software Adobe Acrobat Reader 7.0 and Google Toolbar Warranty 3 Year Value Plan (Tech Support - Parts - Factory Labor) Shipping and Tax CalculatorSelect Method Est. Shipping1 Ground...($49.00) -Continental U.S. Only-Second Day...($69.00) -Hawaii and Alaska Only-Enter Zip Code (for tax and shipping calculation)If you have a coupon code, please enter it below:Coupon Code Subtotal: $1,207.98 Instant Discount -$100.00 Est. Shipping & Handling1 $49.00 Estimated Tax3 $0.00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total: $1,156.98 Desktop:Gateway S-5105DModify Item | Add Related Items. $1,256.99 Remove $1,256.99 Hide Details Customized Options Operating System Genuine Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Processor Intel Pentium D Processor 925 featuring two processing cores (3.00GHz, 800MHz FSB, 2x2MB cache, non-HT EM64T) Application Software Microsoft Works 8.5 Backup Media Cyberlink CDRW and PowerDVD Solution (2-Channel) (for Windows XP) Certification Energy Star Compliant Chassis 6-bay mid-tower case w/ front audio ports Chipset ATI Xpress 200 Chipset Controller IEEE 1394 (FireWire) PCI Card (full height) (1 in front and 2 in back) Controller Card Integrated ultra ATA100 controller Expansion Slots 2 PCI Slots, 1 PCI-Express x1, 1 PCI-Express x16 External Ports (6) USB 2.0 ports (2 front, 4 rear), (1) Serial, (1) Parallel, (2) PS/2, (1) RJ-45 integrated LAN, (1) VGA, (1) audio in/out, (1) microphone, front headphone ports Floppy Drive No Floppy Drive selected Hard Drive 160GB 7200rpm Ultra ATA hard drive w/ 2MB cache Keyboard Gateway Basic 104+ Keyboard (PS/2) Management Software Gateway System Manager Client V.3.2 DWL Media Card Reader 9-in-1 Memory Card Reader Memory 1024MB 533MHz Dual-channel DDR2 SDRAM (2-512MB modules) [$40.00] Monitor Gateway 22" Widescreen High-Definition LCD Display Monitor Speakerbar USB Speakerbar for 22" or smaller Gateway LCD Monitors Motherboard ATI Xpress 200 Motherboard w/ 10/100 LAN Mouse Gateway 2-Button USB Optical Wheel Mouse with Mouse Pad Operating System Backup Media Microsoft Windows XP Home Back-up Media (CD version) Optical Drive 48x/32x/48x CD-RW/DVD combo drive Security Software McAfee 90-day Internet Security Suite Complimentary Subscription with VirusScan, Personal Firewall Plus, SpamKiller & Privacy Service (for Windows XP) Software Documentation End User License Agreement for Non-Microsoft Software Speakers No Speakers Selected Video Integrated ATI Radeon Xpress 200 Graphics with up to 128MB shared memory Video ATI x1300 Ultra Video Card with 128MB Dual DVI & TV-Out Warranty Desktop Value Plus Service Plan -- 3 year part/labor/NBD on-site/3 year technical support

[spike]

The graphics, are weak on both units, they need to be DX10 and VISTA compatable, .......tell them that, .....also both units have pentium D chips in them, you do NOT want those, while they do OK, they are old tech, and produce hugh amounts of heat and consume energy like starving pigs, really bad in a notebook, .......tell them you want CORE 2 DUO , CPU's , .......last thing you will probably want 2 GB of RAM, as Vista is a hugh memory hog. I am recomending all this based on your , most likely , wanting to hold on to them for several years and will likely sometime in the future move to Vista.

[PeggyFair]

[quote name='spike']The graphics, are weak on both units, they need to be DX10 and VISTA compatable, .......tell them that, .....also both units have pentium D chips in them, you do NOT want those, while they do OK, they are old tech, and produce hugh amounts of heat and consume energy like starving pigs, really bad in a notebook, .......tell them you want CORE 2 DUO , CPU's , .......last thing you will probably want 2 GB of RAM, as Vista is a hugh memory hog.> > I am recomending all this based on your , most likely , wanting to hold on to them for several years and will likely sometime in the future move to Vista.Thanks Spike. I will call him back and tell him this. I knew something was up because I expected to pay alot more for what I wanted than what he quoted me. Is your recommendations for both the desktop and the laptop or just the desktop? Also, do you have any idea how much more those recommendations will tack on to the quoted price? Yes, I plan to keep my computers for 4-5 years before trading them in and I do plan to upgrade to Vista when it is more widely compatible.So everything else is okay? Also, I am buying a desktop computer for my 14 year old neice who will only be using her computer to surf the net, download music and very light gaming, the gateway rep said that the desktop quoted would be good for her as well. What do you think about that?

[rgreen4]

Peggyfair, as I was going through the list, I was thinking, she can do better than this. I have been prowling the HP website, as I have been getting ready to buy a new laptop.I would recommned you log onto HP.com, and look at three areas. First, review the laptops available in the entertainment section. In the 17" check out the dv9500t, and when you get it up on the screen, click on the customize. Then you can add any times you want. The dv9500t with the Core2Duo T7100, Vista Home Premium, 1680x1050 Brightview screen, 2GB memory, nVidia 8600M discrete video card with 511MB memory, wireless AGN, 2 120GB Hard Drives, High Capity 8 cell battery& a set of recovery discs will run a little over $1500.You can also prowl the desktop lines and see how they compare. The third area i think you should prowl is the driver and download section. On the opening screen on the lower left are support&troubleshooting and driver&download buttons. Just check out support section. I do not have anything against Gateway, in trying to help others on this forum, I have found their support site is not as complete as HP, Dell, Sony and some others. I'm not sure why you are leaning toward XP Media Center 2005. I had it on my HP Media Center PC and was glad to get rid of it. I found it quirky and not quite Vista, but not quite XP either. The menu visuals are closer to Vista than the traditional XP. Some of my problems may have been trying to stick with Norton's Internet Security 2007, when I should have deep sixed it earlier. I did when I installed Vista Home Premium. While you can buy various books on XP Home and Pro, and of course Vista, I have yet to see a book on XP Media Center. It seems to be the red-headed stepchild of Windows opertating systems. Kind of a patch to XP until Vista Home Premium was ready for release.With new machines at this time, the only reason not to go with Vista, is if you have Legacy progams or periphials that will not work with Vista. Older scanners and All-In-One printers are about the only devices that do not have Vista drivers now.As always its your money, but shop around and get the most you can for that, be it Gateway, HP or some other brand. Up until recently I probably would not have been in a postition to think too highly of Dell, but there have been several incidents lately when a Dell Tech has joined in on the forum discussion to help a Dell Owner. When that happens most of us just kind of fade back and let the tech handle it, but keep an eye on the process. That shows a commitment to satisfaction that has not been their reputation in the past.

[PeggyFair]

Rgreen, the entire specs that you see was the recommendation of the sales rep I spoke to. I told him I didn't want Vista now, so he just picked that system. I will check out HP. Thanks!

[spike]

[quote name='PeggyFair']> {quote:title=spike wrote:}{quote}The graphics, are weak on both units, they need to be DX10 and VISTA compatable, .......tell them that, .....also both units have pentium D chips in them, you do NOT want those, while they do OK, they are old tech, and produce hugh amounts of heat and consume energy like starving pigs, really bad in a notebook, .......tell them you want CORE 2 DUO , CPU's , .......last thing you will probably want 2 GB of RAM, as Vista is a hugh memory hog.> > > > I am recomending all this based on your , most likely , wanting to hold on to them for several years and will likely sometime in the future move to Vista.> > > > Thanks Spike. I will call him back and tell him this. I knew something was up because I expected to pay alot more for what I wanted than what he quoted me. Is your recommendations for both the desktop and the laptop or just the desktop? Also, do you have any idea how much more those recommendations will tack on to the quoted price? Yes, I plan to keep my computers for 4-5 years before trading them in and I do plan to upgrade to Vista when it is more widely compatible.So everything else is okay? Also, I am buying a desktop computer for my 14 year old neice who will only be using her computer to surf the net, download music and very light gaming, the gateway rep said that the desktop quoted would be good for her as well. What do you think about that?Yes, for BOTH systems, this will keep them both in line for future use, and EASY FUTURE UPGRADES, ......you know you'll have tooThis will bring up the price some, how much depends on them.

[PeggyFair]

Thanks Spike. I went to the HP website as Rgreen recommended and it seems as if they are cheaper than Gateway. Gateway is very expensive. The only downside is that all of HP's machines come with Vista only. What are your thoughts on getting Vista instead of XP on a new machine? Vista kind of scares me. LOL.

[lilxkid24]

http://www.newegg.co...16883107195This is a good hp computer and it comes with window xp if you don't like vista. Its also one of the cheapest i would say.

[spike]

[quote name='PeggyFair']Thanks Spike. I went to the HP website as Rgreen recommended and it seems as if they are cheaper than Gateway. Gateway is very expensive. The only downside is that all of HP's machines come with Vista only. What are your thoughts on getting Vista instead of XP on a new machine? Vista kind of scares me. LOL.Not a lot of hugh differences,shouldn't be much trouble to pick it up, wouldn't let Vista stop you from getting a better comp., if you like the one from HP better, then buy that one, Vista or XP, ........whats the difference, they're both Microsoft, how much different could it be.

[PeggyFair]

[quote name='spike']> {quote:title=PeggyFair wrote:}{quote}Thanks Spike. I went to the HP website as Rgreen recommended and it seems as if they are cheaper than Gateway. Gateway is very expensive. The only downside is that all of HP's machines come with Vista only. What are your thoughts on getting Vista instead of XP on a new machine? Vista kind of scares me. LOL.> > > > Not a lot of hugh differences,shouldn't be much trouble to pick it up, wouldn't let Vista stop you from getting a better comp., if you like the one from HP better, then buy that one, Vista or XP, ........whats the difference, they're both Microsoft, how much different could it be.Spike you are right. I spoke to another Gateway rep and now I have decided to go with Vista. I took your recommendations and here are the new systems that I am considering. I am starting with 2GB of memory and will upgrade to 4gb by buying my own:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------System Unit Price Qty Ext. Price --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------MY COMPUTERGateway DX430X $1,450.96 1 $1,450.96 Operating System: Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium (32-bit) Operating System Backup Media: Windows Vista Home Premium Backup Media (32-bit) Application Software: Microsoft Office Home $148.06 & Student Edition 2007 (includes Word, Excel and PowerPoint) Security Software: McAfee 90-day Internet Security Suite Complimentary Subscription with VirusScan, Personal Firewall Plus, SpamKiller & Privacy Service v. 1.2 (for Windows Vista) Color: Black Polish Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E6420 $29.61 (2.13GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 4MB cache, non-HT) Memory: 2048MB 667MHz Dual-Channel DDR2 SDRAM (2-1024MB modules) Motherboard: Systemboard with Intel G965 Chipset & 10/100 network Hard Drive: 500GB 7200rpm Serial ATA II/300 hard drive w/ 16MB cache Optical Drive: 16x Super Multi Format Double Layer DVD-RW/DVD-RAM +/-R / CD-R/RW Backup Media: Cyberlink Power2Go (for Windows Vista Home Premium and Ultimate) Warranty: 1 Year Value Plan (Tech Support - Parts - Factory Labor) Chassis: Gateway 5-Bay uATX Case Power Supply: 400-Watt Power Supply Monitor: Gateway 22" Widescreen High-Definition $138.19 LCD Display Monitor Speakerbar: USB Speakerbar for 22" or $29.60 smaller Gateway LCD Monitors Video: NVIDIA GeForce 7500LE 256MB (512MB shared) TV Tuner: No TV Tuner Card Selected Keyboard: Gateway Premium Wireless Keyboard $34.54 & Mouse Mouse: No Mouse Selected -$14.81 Speakers: Gateway 2.0 Speakers Modem: 56K PCI data/fax modem Additional Software: Microsoft Windows Vista Windows Anytime Upgrade Media (32-bit) Additional Software: America Online Client Application Additional Software: Google Messaging Toolbar Additional Software: Download for Napster Trial Additional Software: Intel Viiv Technology Driver (for Microsoft Windows Vista) Additional Software: eBay Desktop Icon Additional Software: RTY TFT Display EZ Tune Install CD Chipset: Intel G965 Chipset Expansion Slots: (2) PCI expansion slots, (1) PCI-E x1 expansion slot. (1) PCI-E x16 expansion slot External Ports: (6) USB 2.0 (2 front, 4 rear), (2) IEEE 1394 firewire (1 front, 1 rear), audio ports and (2) PS/2 Floppy Drive: 15-in-1 Memory Card Reader Sound: Integrated Intel 7.1 high-definition audio Network: Integrated Intel 10/100 Twisted Pair Ethernet Internet Service Provider: 90-day America Online Internet access THE COMPUTER FOR MY NIECEGateway DX430S $1,085.75 1 $1,085.75 Operating System: Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium (32-bit) Operating System Backup Media: Windows Vista Home Premium Backup Media (32-bit) Application Software: Microsoft Works 8.5 Security Software: McAfee 90-day Internet Security Suite Complimentary Subscription with VirusScan, Personal Firewall Plus, SpamKiller & Privacy Service v. 1.2 (for Windows Vista) Color: Black Polish Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E4400 (2.00GHz, 800MHz FSB, 2MB cache, non-HT) Memory: 2048MB 667MHz Dual-Channel DDR2 SDRAM $148.06 (2-1024MB modules) Motherboard: Systemboard with Intel G965 Chipset & 10/100 network Hard Drive: 250GB 7200rpm Serial ATA II/300 hard drive w/ 8MB cache Optical Drive: 48x/32x/48x CD-RW/DVD combo drive -$39.48 Backup Media: Cyberlink Power2Go (for Windows Vista Home Premium and Ultimate) Warranty: 1 Year Value Plan (Tech Support - Parts - Factory Labor) Chassis: Gateway 5-Bay uATX Case Power Supply: 400-Watt Power Supply Monitor: Gateway 19" Widescreen High Definition $39.48 LCD Display Monitor Speakerbar: USB Speakerbar for 22" or $29.60 smaller Gateway LCD Monitors TV Tuner: No TV Tuner Card Selected Keyboard: Gateway Premium Wireless Keyboard $34.54 & Mouse Mouse: No Mouse Selected -$14.81 Speakers: Gateway 2.0 Speakers Modem: 56K PCI data/fax modem Additional Software: Microsoft Windows Vista Windows Anytime Upgrade Media (32-bit) Additional Software: America Online Client Application Additional Software: Google Messaging Toolbar Additional Software: Download for Napster Trial Additional Software: Intel Viiv Technology Driver (for Microsoft Windows Vista) Additional Software: eBay Desktop Icon Additional Software: RTY TFT Display EZ Tune Install CD Chipset: Intel G965 Chipset Video: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3000 with Maximum 384MB Shared Memory (Dynamic Video Memory Technology) Expansion Slots: (2) PCI expansion slots, (1) PCI-E x1 expansion slot. (1) PCI-E x16 expansion slot External Ports: (6) USB 2.0 (2 front, 4 rear), (2) IEEE 1394 firewire (1 front, 1 rear), audio ports and (2) PS/2 Floppy Drive: 15-in-1 Memory Card Reader Sound: Integrated Intel 7.1 high-definition audio Network: Integrated Intel 10/100 Twisted Pair Ethernet Internet Service Provider: 90-day America Online Internet access MY LAPTOPGateway NX860X $1,283.19 1 $1,283.19 Operating System: Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium (32-bit) Operating System Backup Media: Windows Vista Home Premium Backup Media (32-bit) Application Software: Microsoft Works 8.5 Security Software: McAfee 90-day Internet Security Suite Complimentary Subscription with VirusScan, Personal Firewall Plus, SpamKiller & Privacy Service v. 1.2 (for Windows Vista) Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T5300 (1.73GHz, 533MHz FSB, 2MB L2 Cache) Memory: 2048MB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (2-1024MB modules) $148.06 Hard Drive: 120GB 5400rpm Serial ATA hard drive Optical Drive: 24x/10x/24x CD-RW / 8x DVD Combo Drive Backup Media: Cyberlink Power2Go (for Windows Vista Home Premium and Ultimate) Warranty: 1 Year Value Plan (Tech Support - Parts - Factory Labor) Display: 17.0" WXGA TFT Active Matrix (1440 x 900 max. resolution) (requires Intel 802.11a/b/g/Draft-N wireless) Chassis: Chassis w/ Intel 945PM Chipset (Dark Tungsten) Video: NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600 Graphics w/ 128MB DDR Video Memory Battery: Primary 8-Cell Lithium Ion Battery w/ 1 Yr. limited battery warranty Adapter: 120 Watt AC Adapter Wireless Network: Integrated Intel 802.11a/b/g/Draft-N Wireless Networking (for Windows Vista) Bluetooth: Bluetooth Wireless Networking Module Cables: Intel WLAN to Bluetooth Cabling Additional Software: America Online Client Application Additional Software: Microsoft Windows Vista Windows Anytime Upgrade Media (32-bit) Additional Software: Google Messaging Toolbar Additional Software: Download for Napster Trial Additional Software: eBay Desktop Icon Mobile Technology: Features Intel Centrino Duo Mobile Technology Media Card Reader: 6-in-1 media card reader (MemoryStick, MemoryStick Pro, MultiMedia Card?, Secure Digital?, Mini Secure Digital, RS-MultiMedia Card?) Expansion Slots: One type II PC card slot External Ports: (4) USB 2.0, VGA, IEEE 1394 (FireWire), S-Video (TV-Out) Sound: Integrated sound and stereo speakers, headphone/speaker jack, and mic jacks Keyboard and Mouse: Full-size keyboard w/ integrated 10-key pad and EZ Pad Pointing Device Modem: Integrated V.92 56K modem Network: Integrated Intel 10/100/1000 Ethernet Adapter Internet Service Provider: 90-day America Online Internet access Standard Software: Adobe Acrobat Reader 7.0 and Google Toolbar

[PeggyFair]

Thanks Lilkid. I think I found the Gateway systems that suits my needs at the price I am comfortable with. Please check out my post to Spike and let me know what you think. I LOVE Gateway computers because they have been so reliable and sturdy for me. :wink:

[spike]

Thats a lot better!!, ...........however you still don't have DX10 capable video cards ( or chips ), in any of the three???? , too expensive?, forgot to ask ?, don't care ? 4GB of RAM will do you no good, 32bit vista will only recognise 3.25 GB and in some cases, exceding that limit will actually slow the comp. down.

[PeggyFair]

[quote name='spike']Thats a lot better!!, ...........however you still don't have DX10 capable video cards ( or chips ), in any of the three???? , too expensive?, forgot to ask ?, don't care ?Thanks! I had the new rep customize it with me as I was looking at the Gateway website and they didn;t have that as an option. This is what they have as options: Video Not Included [-$79.00] NVIDIA GeForce 7500LE 256MB (512MB shared) [Included in price] NVIDIA GeForce 7600GT 256MB DDR2 Video Card Dual DVI/ TV [$79.00] NVIDIA GeForce 8800GTS w/ 320MB, Dual DVI-I Dual link TV Out (Factory Overclocked) w/ VGA adapter [$299.00] Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3000 with Maximum 384MB Shared Memory (Dynamic Video Memory Technology) Video Cards with two video outputs allow dual-monitor support for extended desktop capabilities. Monitor

[PeggyFair]

[quote name='spike']Thats a lot better!!, ...........however you still don't have DX10 capable video cards ( or chips ), in any of the three???? , too expensive?, forgot to ask ?, don't care ?> > > > 4GB of RAM will do you no good, 32bit vista will only recognise 3.25 GB and in some cases, exceding that limit will actually slow the comp. down.So what you are saying is that the 2gb is sufficient? or upgrade to 3gb? If so, what online store is the cheapest for memory as far as your experiences?

[spike]

[quote name='PeggyFair']> {quote:title=spike wrote:}{quote}Thats a lot better!!, ...........however you still don't have DX10 capable video cards ( or chips ), in any of the three???? , too expensive?, forgot to ask ?, don't care ?> > > > Thanks! I had the new rep customize it with me as I was looking at the Gateway website and they didn;t have that as an option. This is what they have as options:> > > > Video > > > > Not Included [-$79.00] > > NVIDIA GeForce 7500LE 256MB (512MB shared) [Included in price] > > NVIDIA GeForce 7600GT 256MB DDR2 Video Card Dual DVI/ TV [$79.00] > > {size:24px}NVIDIA GeForce 8800GTS w/ 320MB, Dual DVI-I Dual link TV Out (Factory Overclocked) w/ VGA adapter [$299.00][/size] > > Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3000 with Maximum 384MB Shared Memory (Dynamic Video Memory Technology)> > > > > > Video Cards with two video outputs allow dual-monitor support for extended desktop capabilities. > > > > Monitor{size:18px}BINGO !! ........DX10 Capable !!!![/size]

[spike]

OH,.....that will NOT be available for the lap top. :oops:, BUT ...it is for the desktop!!!:D

[PeggyFair]

[quote name='spike']> {quote:title=PeggyFair wrote:}{quote}> {quote:title=spike wrote:}{quote}Thats a lot better!!, ...........however you still don't have DX10 capable video cards ( or chips ), in any of the three???? , too expensive?, forgot to ask ?, don't care ?> > > > > > > > Thanks! I had the new rep customize it with me as I was looking at the Gateway website and they didn;t have that as an option. This is what they have as options:> > > > > > > > Video > > > > > > > > Not Included [-$79.00] > > > > NVIDIA GeForce 7500LE 256MB (512MB shared) [Included in price] > > > > NVIDIA GeForce 7600GT 256MB DDR2 Video Card Dual DVI/ TV [$79.00] > > > > {size:24px}NVIDIA GeForce 8800GTS w/ 320MB, Dual DVI-I Dual link TV Out (Factory Overclocked) w/ VGA adapter [$299.00][/size] > > > > Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3000 with Maximum 384MB Shared Memory (Dynamic Video Memory Technology)> > > > > > > > > > > > Video Cards with two video outputs allow dual-monitor support for extended desktop capabilities. > > > > > > > > Monitor> > > > {size:18px}BINGO !! ........DX10 Capable !!!![/size]Oh, okay. LOL..I don't understand the lingo. That there is a whopping 300 bucks! :shock: I'll have to think about it!

[PeggyFair]

[quote name='spike']OH,.....that will NOT be available for the lap top. :oops:, BUT ...it is for the desktop!!!:DYou mean the video card?

[spike]

[quote name='PeggyFair']> {quote:title=spike wrote:}{quote}Thats a lot better!!, ...........however you still don't have DX10 capable video cards ( or chips ), in any of the three???? , too expensive?, forgot to ask ?, don't care ?> > > > > > > > 4GB of RAM will do you no good, 32bit vista will only recognise 3.25 GB and in some cases, exceding that limit will actually slow the comp. down.> > > > So what you are saying is that the 2gb is sufficient? or upgrade to 3gb? If so, what online store is the cheapest for memory as far as your experiences? Go with 3, that's what I use, try this sitehttp://www.newegg.com/

[spike]

[quote name='PeggyFair']> {quote:title=spike wrote:}{quote}OH,.....that will NOT be available for the lap top. :oops:, BUT ...it is for the desktop!!!:D> > > > You mean the video card?YES, for the desktop's only