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Civil Liberties Groups Sue Over Electronics Searches
#2
Posted 08 February 2008 - 02:41 PM
Constitution what constitution?
Bill of rights...What's that.
I do not care what any of you people say about well they ended up finding this or that..so it's OK.. your a moron....
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized
Don't get me wrong, if you are NOT a citizen then YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS HERE....
Bill of rights...What's that.
I do not care what any of you people say about well they ended up finding this or that..so it's OK.. your a moron....
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized
Don't get me wrong, if you are NOT a citizen then YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS HERE....
#8
Posted 09 February 2008 - 03:12 PM
Interesting comments about the 4th Amendment. As I understand it, anyone within our borders is guaranteed due process--citizen or not.
As to the siezing of electronic devices... if the government can demonstrate that it is normal procedure to copy, keep, read, or otherwise dispose of paper documents at the border, I guess they might be able to make a case for taking electronic information. However, I'm with the the plaintiffs in this case. SHOW ME.
Tom Olzak
As to the siezing of electronic devices... if the government can demonstrate that it is normal procedure to copy, keep, read, or otherwise dispose of paper documents at the border, I guess they might be able to make a case for taking electronic information. However, I'm with the the plaintiffs in this case. SHOW ME.
Tom Olzak
#9
Posted 10 February 2008 - 06:11 AM
Article XIV. Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Most of the Constitution declares the rights of citizens
The 14th does declare due process for non citizens, but does not necessarily guarantee those rights.It does however state that "nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws" Now what are the laws for non citizens? Personally I do not think non citizens have as many rights as citizens, or why become one? Maybe that's the problem right now?
The 4th amendment clearly states that what they are doing at the border is illegal.
Most of the Constitution declares the rights of citizens
The 14th does declare due process for non citizens, but does not necessarily guarantee those rights.It does however state that "nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws" Now what are the laws for non citizens? Personally I do not think non citizens have as many rights as citizens, or why become one? Maybe that's the problem right now?
The 4th amendment clearly states that what they are doing at the border is illegal.
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