Windows XP vs. Vista: An Explosion of Opinion
#81
Posted 24 March 2008 - 07:46 PM
I LOVE Windows XP. Sure, I wish it was as pretty as Vista, but it's the speed of the OS that really does it for me. I recently upgraded my computer and it runs perfectly. It loads immediately when I start it up, unlike my friends' computers who have Vista (which is slow as molasses... I swear, it takes over 5 minutes for them to start up). Sorry, but I will not be buying Vista for a long time (if at all... I'll probably just wait until the next OS Microsoft releases, if it's any good). Hopefully Microsoft will get a clue and release a more stable, compatible, and fast OS like Windows XP next time.
WinXP = MADE OF WIN
Vista = EPIC FAIL.
WinXP = MADE OF WIN
Vista = EPIC FAIL.
#82
Posted 26 March 2008 - 02:44 PM
Another important fact to point out, which I'm ashamed to say, because I have never been a fan of Apple or its Mac OS. Any "latest features" in Vista ( release 2007) has been in the Mac OS since 2001, which makes Microsoft 5 years behind on the home user front. Also any features in Microsoft's server OS is inferior to Linux and other *nix based systems. So the only two things I can see where Microsoft reigns supreme is Office utilities (There is now Office 07 for Mac and OpenOffice for Linux, plus Macs can run Windows as well as Linux thanks to Virtualiation) and Gaming, and PC gaming is not exactly what it used to be.
#83
Posted 27 March 2008 - 11:16 AM
For those who wish to hear something good about Vista x86 or x64 in
which my personal testing on the HP/Voodoo BlackBird 002 which is truly
the cream of the crop and there are, if any, better PC platforms
available today -- right now, this moment that is -- I have nothing good to say about Vista.
My machine came delivered in a very nice crate and upon opening the
system, I noticed the Vista operating system, the x86 version which I
thought was amiss.
I played with it for a few days and then I eradicated the boggy OS
and installed the x64 version to take advantage of the quad processors.
I must admit that the performance perked up when SP1 was installed
without a problem.
Running the barebone core, meaning I did not install any other
feature except the required drivers, the system as powerful as the
hardware is, seemed lacking.
I removed the OS and installed XP Professional x64 with RAID
(striped) and loaded the XP drivers and the performance went through
the roof. SP3 Beta release was also installed automatically in my
"upgrade."
My bird utilizes the Intel® Core2™ Extreme Quad-Core 3.0GHz
[QX9650]; 12MB of L2 cache; 1333MHz with 8 GB 1066MHz CORSAIR PC2-8500
DDR2 SDRAM SLI Ready
I am running in SLI two sweet nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX, with 768MB of GDDR3 SDRAM supports Dual-Link DVI
I have two 160GB 10,000 rpm SATA (Western Digital Raptor)in the
specified RAID and the AGEIA PhysX™ 100 Series PCI-E Accelerator Card
to run my astronomy program.
So I don't have DX 10.0 and since I don't play any games on this,
but design my butt off with Adobe CS3 and video creation, who cares, really -- I have XBox and Sony PSIII for such things?
I've been running this configuration for some time since and I am very happy living life without Vista or IE 7.0 just fine.
I also know that I am in the top 1% of the PC Users in the world,
but so be it -- For me, Vista flat sucks and there is no way anyone
here can tall me, or show me different.
which my personal testing on the HP/Voodoo BlackBird 002 which is truly
the cream of the crop and there are, if any, better PC platforms
available today -- right now, this moment that is -- I have nothing good to say about Vista.
My machine came delivered in a very nice crate and upon opening the
system, I noticed the Vista operating system, the x86 version which I
thought was amiss.
I played with it for a few days and then I eradicated the boggy OS
and installed the x64 version to take advantage of the quad processors.
I must admit that the performance perked up when SP1 was installed
without a problem.
Running the barebone core, meaning I did not install any other
feature except the required drivers, the system as powerful as the
hardware is, seemed lacking.
I removed the OS and installed XP Professional x64 with RAID
(striped) and loaded the XP drivers and the performance went through
the roof. SP3 Beta release was also installed automatically in my
"upgrade."
My bird utilizes the Intel® Core2™ Extreme Quad-Core 3.0GHz
[QX9650]; 12MB of L2 cache; 1333MHz with 8 GB 1066MHz CORSAIR PC2-8500
DDR2 SDRAM SLI Ready
I am running in SLI two sweet nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX, with 768MB of GDDR3 SDRAM supports Dual-Link DVI
I have two 160GB 10,000 rpm SATA (Western Digital Raptor)in the
specified RAID and the AGEIA PhysX™ 100 Series PCI-E Accelerator Card
to run my astronomy program.
So I don't have DX 10.0 and since I don't play any games on this,
but design my butt off with Adobe CS3 and video creation, who cares, really -- I have XBox and Sony PSIII for such things?
I've been running this configuration for some time since and I am very happy living life without Vista or IE 7.0 just fine.
I also know that I am in the top 1% of the PC Users in the world,
but so be it -- For me, Vista flat sucks and there is no way anyone
here can tall me, or show me different.
#85
Posted 27 March 2008 - 03:41 PM
Amen to above who states, quote: "Why upgrade if there's no need to" I have a mixed network with rigs running Vista and XP. All the Vista machines have dual core processors and 3 gb memory however it it very worthwhile to note that one of my XP machines though upgraded is a Gigabyte GA-533 Titan socket 478 board running a p4 2.26 ghz processor running XP home (orig. sp2) with newly installed service pack 3 and 768 megabytes of DDR RAM and speedwise it's very noticably faster than any of my above mentioned Vista macjhines with their 3GB DDR, DDR2, and DDR3 (depending on which computer) and dual and quad core processors.
This for me demonstrates Vista's bloat on system resources. All of my machines are custom built with/by myself with 20+ years of experience in then out of the military with computer/s and their related systems.
Now don't get me wrong, I like Vista very well, I like XP too. You just need expensive hardware to run Vista properly which isn't consistent with the average PC user who goes online to check emails, visit auction sites, etc. This is the only problem I have with Vista. As for gaming? One of my gamers is one of my Vista machines and the other is running XP pro. My games run fine on both of them however here I note; My Vista Gamer runs 6 GB DDR 3, whereas my XP gamer runs 2 gb DDR.
Being disabled I spend many hours a day with my machines when I'm not reopairing or building one for someone else and in conclusion my opinion is that those out there having problems with Vista try upgrading to or adding more memory. If you give Vista a chance the OS might surprise you. ]:)
This for me demonstrates Vista's bloat on system resources. All of my machines are custom built with/by myself with 20+ years of experience in then out of the military with computer/s and their related systems.
Now don't get me wrong, I like Vista very well, I like XP too. You just need expensive hardware to run Vista properly which isn't consistent with the average PC user who goes online to check emails, visit auction sites, etc. This is the only problem I have with Vista. As for gaming? One of my gamers is one of my Vista machines and the other is running XP pro. My games run fine on both of them however here I note; My Vista Gamer runs 6 GB DDR 3, whereas my XP gamer runs 2 gb DDR.
Being disabled I spend many hours a day with my machines when I'm not reopairing or building one for someone else and in conclusion my opinion is that those out there having problems with Vista try upgrading to or adding more memory. If you give Vista a chance the OS might surprise you. ]:)
#86
Posted 27 March 2008 - 03:55 PM
I 100% agree with your position. It's exactly what I've found with my Vista system. My system is stable but a little less responsive than i would have expected given the hardware i've invested in. But after installing SP1 on Sunday last, its performance, especially in high volume data handling, is much closer to what i expect. Hopefully the forward development of Vista will continue into Windows 7.
#87
Posted 27 March 2008 - 08:42 PM
AMEN =
I also know that I am in the top 1% of the PC Users in the world,
but so be it -- For me, Vista flat sucks and there is no way anyone
here can tall me, or show me different. I cant say any thing nice either. Vista just plain out sucks and mine crash's every night when my virus scan runs.what a piece of dung. I am installing XP and tossing my vista disk in the trash where it belongs. G4acre
I also know that I am in the top 1% of the PC Users in the world,
but so be it -- For me, Vista flat sucks and there is no way anyone
here can tall me, or show me different. I cant say any thing nice either. Vista just plain out sucks and mine crash's every night when my virus scan runs.what a piece of dung. I am installing XP and tossing my vista disk in the trash where it belongs. G4acre
#94
Posted 28 March 2008 - 08:55 AM
My son had conection problems with his Lap (HP, dual core & w-Vista OS) in our home: a wireless 2MB LAN conection. I had two problems before solving this simple issue:
1- my son's non-confidence! Me touch his new Lap!!! Better deliver it to a hacker of the worst kind...but I talked myself into his confidence!
2.- The menus! My GOD!!! ¿Why did Bill had to change the order & names ON THE VERY SAME MENUS that XP has??? So confussing...but after 1/2 hour it was conected, without changing settings...a security issue of the wireless LAN! On XP, it would give no problem, or would be solved in ONE MINUTE!!!
Change for the sake of change...and lots $$$ of course! Besides, his LAP runs SLOWER than my self constructed CELERON 800 Mhz, 384 MB RAM, 20 Gb hard disk, no graphic card, runing w-XP pro SP2, office 2003...can´t use microsoft Flight Sim, but IL-2 runs very good, google earth no problem...and it's an obsolete PC!!! No, not a fan pf Vista at all! For me, XP is the best so far...(I have learned on w-95, used w-98 SE, w-ME nightmare at first, evenrually runned good...)
DonYan
1- my son's non-confidence! Me touch his new Lap!!! Better deliver it to a hacker of the worst kind...but I talked myself into his confidence!
2.- The menus! My GOD!!! ¿Why did Bill had to change the order & names ON THE VERY SAME MENUS that XP has??? So confussing...but after 1/2 hour it was conected, without changing settings...a security issue of the wireless LAN! On XP, it would give no problem, or would be solved in ONE MINUTE!!!
Change for the sake of change...and lots $$$ of course! Besides, his LAP runs SLOWER than my self constructed CELERON 800 Mhz, 384 MB RAM, 20 Gb hard disk, no graphic card, runing w-XP pro SP2, office 2003...can´t use microsoft Flight Sim, but IL-2 runs very good, google earth no problem...and it's an obsolete PC!!! No, not a fan pf Vista at all! For me, XP is the best so far...(I have learned on w-95, used w-98 SE, w-ME nightmare at first, evenrually runned good...)
DonYan
#95
Posted 28 March 2008 - 11:28 AM
For the average user ( the one that just browses the net, uses office, and IM's There is NOTHING wrong with vista. After that... its completely worthless. Maybe after SP2 it'll be decent like XP... or windows 7 will rock all our faces off...we can only hope right?
#98
Posted 28 March 2008 - 03:11 PM
I've used XP since it's release and I have been very happy with it !!! Alot better than ME or windows 95 or 98. I'm using XP on my Desktop, but I'm now using Windows Vista on my new Laptop. I can't say much about the new Vista yet, but I have run into a few problems. Time will tell !!!
#99
Posted 28 March 2008 - 03:43 PM
I'm a technical user that's been on Windows since 3.1, and every time MS has done a major release, there've been major reasons for it: Changes in hardware support (formats), etc. For example: going on from W98SE, more disk and memory capacity was supported, the NTFS file system became available, etc. 98 wouldn’t run with more than 1G RAM without massive, disabling tweaks.
2000/XP is in my experience the most stable, reliable, and efficient GUI O/S MS has released. My installation multiboots on my self-built and -upgrader machine with a miniscule, minimal 98SE for backward-compatibility, coldstarting to profile selection in 20 sec., and flies. I only get STOP BSODS once or twice a year, and they're hardware related. I have no need for anything Vista offers. Vista's DRM and obnoxious security features are a complete turn-off to me. I'll never "upgrade" to it until compelled, and then I might swallow my pride and go to another O/S platform — unless MS learns from user reaction to Vista, and adapts to the marketplace by Win 7's release.
2000/XP is in my experience the most stable, reliable, and efficient GUI O/S MS has released. My installation multiboots on my self-built and -upgrader machine with a miniscule, minimal 98SE for backward-compatibility, coldstarting to profile selection in 20 sec., and flies. I only get STOP BSODS once or twice a year, and they're hardware related. I have no need for anything Vista offers. Vista's DRM and obnoxious security features are a complete turn-off to me. I'll never "upgrade" to it until compelled, and then I might swallow my pride and go to another O/S platform — unless MS learns from user reaction to Vista, and adapts to the marketplace by Win 7's release.
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