[darklightning]

AVG IS FREE!! http://free.grisoft....s/frt/0?prd=aff stop your complaining, when you don't even know about what you are talking about!!!!!!!!!!!

[Shade]

Alright, well I think someone was a little ticked at what I said. They are supposed to be changing that, but I'll look more into it. Still won't use antivirus though. I'm not complaining, it's just been proven that micromanagement of a computer is much more efficient.

[jjh483]

Darklightning

I use AVG yes there is a free Stripted Down vergin of it

It dose not catch most or fix some

But you DO have to pay for the full program it says that on there stie

[MikeNYC]

I think user shoud try to tune up software first, fixing slow computer:

myquickpc.com

-Mike

[mphenterprises]

jjh483 said:

I use AVG yes there is a free Stripted Down vergin of it. It dose not catch most or fix some

Okay, let's clarify this before there is anymore confusion or misunderstanding. AVG Anti-Virus Free is a fully functioning security application. The difference between the Free version and the Paid version is the fact that AVG Anti-Virus Free is strictly just an anti-virus application. If you want the paid version, you will get everything but Anti-Spam and a firewall. The fully paid version is has all aspects of the AVG family (AVG Internet Security).

This url will take you to Grisoft's website to compare all three options:

http://free.grisoft.com/doc/2/us/frt/0



AVG Anti-Virus Free works wonders on viruses because that is what it is designed to catch. However, if you want a more complete package from AVG, you would then have to pay for either the partial suite or the full Internet Security Suite.

Now, that being said, the vast majority of the regular forum members recommend a Tiered (or Layered) approach to security. This eliminates the multi-functional security application and replaces it with a multiple application attack, of which, the vast majority of these applications are...you guessed it....free.

[vMATTLEEv]

1st off AVG has the LOWEST detection rate of the major 3 antivirus programs stripped down or not. antivir has the highest detection, and uses less resources. avast has 2nd highest detection, also consumes less resouces and both AntiVir and Avast have better updaters than AVG. AVG HAS 0 ADVANTAGES TO THE OTHER 2 EVEN PC WORLD ITSELF SHOWED IT. AVG = WORTHLESS.

[mphenterprises]

Hi vMattLEEv. Okay, I am not one to get into back and forth posts regarding anything. My posting was simply to show that there is a fully functional version of AVG Anti-Virus. To each his or her own. I use AVG Free and have not had any issues. You don't like AVG, fine.

The bottom line is that there is a choice. There are way too many applications for there to be one standard for anything. I use and suggest the tiered approach I mentioned earlier. As long as you get the performance you desire and avoid the malicious files that are floating out there, it doesn't matter what application you choose.

[NeverQuiteThere]

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>...using utorrent to download illegally is stupid because its now monitored by bit torrent

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who made their money by turning their backs onto those who used their client by installing monitoring software in their clients (they couldnt make money off legal downloads

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Time and time again people will put information online like this that is TOTAL RUBBISH!!!!!
Please do feel free to show us your sources for such gibberish as you state!
I laughed at the mere thought of a company actually attempting to monitor the users of a program that is so widely distributed and used as Utorrent.
Deary me, you need to think about the sheer numbers involved mate.
Anyway, forget the details it still stands that your unfounded claims about utorrent are completely without any basis in reality!

[LairdC]

Ahh, bittorrent? Didn't you even read the articles in the magazine. Why publish an article espousing the fact that the ISPs providing broadband are thinking of charging by use and then list those P2P and various other bandwidth hogging programs as "BEST FREEBIES"? Makes you wonder about the readership. I agree with some of the comments concerning other software which was left out, but I do believe Staroffice and OpenOffice could have shared billing. I am sure some would agree there are flaws in even the opensource programs, but they improve just like their big business counterparts if you take time to donate to the cause. All this computing genious for free or for a paltry donation is quite worth what it costs.

In the words of a great songwriter from the past,

"What do you want for nothing? Rubber biscuit?"

[vMATTLEEv]

out of boredom i will explain why bittorrent is bad and why what their doing is illegal
1st off bittorrent started off as open source then the owner of bittorrent decided to help on a project called blogbot. blogbot allows for tracking urls and being able to send them to others. now whats that for bit torrent and why is it illegal?
1st off basically the guy incorporated blogbot into bittorrent which not only enabled him to monitor users actions but also allowed for sending the info to the riaa. this is illegal and is why bittorrent and the riaa are so reluctant in telling ppl how they catch users.
he was also part of a project called pycrypto which would allow him to encrypt all this data to send it to riaa without ppl tracing it. this how ppl get caught and how bittorrent made all its money and is why bittorrent and riaa wont release how they catch ppl. it is also why utorrent and bittorrent are not good to use. its monitored software.

[vMATTLEEv]

thats ok never quite there. u keep using utorrent and bittorrent. just hope ur walking the straight and narrow cause if u get caught from doing something wrong then u only have yourself too blame for being stupid enough to use monitored software. why dont you just installed gator software too? i mean clearly being monitored doesnt bother u so having spyware shouldnt either. right?

[vMATTLEEv]

actually my pt is there are 100s of torrent clients that are completely free of monitoring software and are open source. bittorrent and utorrent should not be included in "best of" anything. if pcworld cared about their users they would mentioned azureus over bittorrent of utorrent but they prolly get paid to recommend utorrent. my other pt was the editors generally never use the products they recommend and just get paid to mention certain ones or they stick with one and wont try anything else. none of those cases give them a right to write a review. they know it and is why my posts written about it are skipped over cause all they want is to respond to suck-ups who congradualate them for their sponsor supported lists.

[NeverQuiteThere]

How many times are you going to tell us al the FACTS you seem to be privy to on the threat of using bit torrent and Utorrent???

Oh yes and it was only out of boredom right, that you made another three, or was it four posts?#

Nothing to do with arrogance or ego. ;)

Let me ask you what I would always ask anyone who makes spurious, unsubstantiated claims on any topic.#

Can you supply us with the evidence that leads you to such hyper-paranoiac conclusions?

Until you do my friend you are nothing more that yet another fool who has jumped on the bandwagon of..'OH NO! BRAM HAS SOLD OUT AND HE's NOW WORKING WITH THE MPAA TO GET US ALL ARRESTED!' crowd.

Did you actually read what I said to you already?

The logistics of the whole dumb monitoring users plan is completely and UTTERLY UNWORKABLE!

You would need more computer power than google owns to do a task like that.

Get an education please...!

You like to be so condescending and smug. that is fine. there are al kinds in the world. however it helps if you have something to be smug about. e.g.,. you posess facts that others do not or you know some secret that you are boasting about to people who do not know it. that would apply and then you would at least qualify for your smug attitude.

However you know nothing it seems and yet you still harp on about the impending doom of all us utorrent users!!!

Do you know ?ANYTHING about networks? anything about computing in general?

If you do then you have to understand just what an impossible task it would be to monitors utorrent users full stop. Do you not think that the userbase by now would have noticed? It isn't difficult to fire up a packet scanner/snooped and watch what is going from where to where even when it is a torrent client and has traffic from, all places. I could do it right now. Just have one torrent with no interest in it or just a little, to reduce the 'noise' of other users, then read every packet of data that goes out and in. There would be one IP that would be so obvious in that it would not be downloading, it would be in built into the program and sending data back to the same ip block and that data would not resemble torrent data.

Even you could have worked that out surely?

So, ahem keep NOT using utorrent if you prefer resource hogging crudware like azureus and let us normally sane and not paranoiac folks get on with doing things the easy way.

But ignoring all I just said, the most important in my mind was my question, which I now repeat:

PLEASE...give us all some links to forums, news releases, discussions etc where it is shown , no proven, or at least a very strong argument(unlike yours right?!) to show that utorrent is monitored.

We will await your evidence.

: )

[mphenterprises]

Hi All. Let's please keep the context of the responses to the discussion at hand, the article's offering of free stuff online. If you would like to continue the discussion regarding bittorrent, please do so by clicking this hyperlink and starting a new Discussion.

[SRF1]

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[kent65]

I have Avira free antivirus installed in my
and my 2 childrens computers. Avira have worked exceptionally well ( no problems with security )
and Avira run in the background without interfering your work. Highly recommended !
Kent , Sweden

[cottolaurel21]

Yeah! I also believed they missed quit a few good ones. There are tons of good one's out there, Like the outstanding "Revo Uninstaller, Defraggler, 7Z, and the well respected Spyware Blaster" etc. A good place to seek for some of them is "FileHipo" site.

[cottolaurel21]

About Online Backup:

The Online Backup that I can recomend is "ADrive". It give 50GB of storage for free just to start with.

There a few more but this is the best. Go to www.ADrive.com/storage.

[cottolaurel21]

I don't work for PCWorld but that doesn't mean that I don't test those application. In

fact that's what I do in my spare time . I do enjoy downloading programs, utilities,

etc. Im not taking your comment personal but I like to address that I do test a lot

of programs. I don't comment a lot about specific topic or program, but when I do posted I write

about the experiences I have with whatever program Im writing about.

[vMATTLEEv]

well i dont totally disagree with all their picks, some i agre with but they usually are slow at discovering products.

and for the person who likes avg av ... thats fine but dont recommend something anyone with any mind knows has the lowest detection rate. its been proven everywhere and including pc world to have the lowest detection rate of all av's. are u saying its good to have low detection?

defraggler is ok though i still believe jkdefrag gui is better. jkdefrag gui does what jkdefrag does and more. it defrags like jkdefrag but adds a system cleaner which also acts as a registry defragger and other things like a washer that helps wash your hard drive. all as safe as jkdefrag itself and all for free.

like i did in my blog i will list a few that are the best of their kind and all thes are free



Digsby (Instant Messenger): think the best of every other messenger and add the fact it has pop email access, social networking, guification pop ups you can respond in, free skins and themes and more. it offers more than even trillian pro that costs mone

JkDefrag GUI (Defragger): does everything all other free defraggers do and more. includes added system cleaner and washer

RegSeeker (Secure Registry Cleaner): a lot claim its dangerous, i wouldve agreed at version 1.45 but 1.55 ive used and had no problems with as long as you put a check next to back up and choose auto clean over manually doing it urself, u will be fine. its detection and removal of left over registries is rivalied only by payware products

Revo Uninstaller (Uninstaller): this is the funniest of all of them because this is the best uninstaller out there period and its free. its funny because they could easily change and most who pay for software would buy it.

ZipGenius (Archiver): one of those products i agree with pc world with. it in fact is the best. its only real competition is IZArch. 7-zip and all those dont do as much. zipgenius is another freebie that could easily be a payware product.



there's 5 of the best freebies out there. tested by me and 3 of them most of pcworld had never heard of while the other 2 just recently got recommended. its why i dont rely on online sources for best software, they recommend stuff that most already know about, very few new products and its because they dont test new products on their own pc. they wait until they hear about it from others then test it on their testing center. they make customers the test subjects and only use it on their own pc once they know its 100% safe. they dont try it then only recommend it to others after they know its a safe product to use.