[darklightning]

TOO BUGGY?!!! TOO BUGGY!? OF COURSE IT IS BUGGY!! IT IS
“BETA”. I am sick and tired of hearing end-users complain about how “Firefox
3 doesn't have a home button” or “It has some bugs”. You know what,YOU'RE
RIGHT!!! It is buggy because that is what a Beta is supposed to do. It is
designed to reveal as many bugs as possible so that whining end-users like you
are protected from them in the final release!


There are five stages Firefox is going through. First was
internal development. The public could download and use Gran Paradiso, I did.
It was the concept sandbox for Firefox 3. It became the next stage, Alpha. That
is where the designers test the product. It is NOT encouraged that end-users
download and use an Alpha. Next it Beta. More people, web designers like me and
software developers are encouraged to download and use this to test their sites
and apps. This is where most of the bugs are caught and destroyed. That is why
it has gone through 5 Betas. I think it would be good to send it through one
more round of beta, but because you end-users are complaining about the delay,
it is going to the Release Candidate (RC) stage. Everyone is encouraged to use
this stage. Rare bugs are revealed and squashed. THEN, and ONLY THEN comes the
final release.



Stop saying that IE works for you, and if it's not broke,
don't fix it, and cease your foolish prattle about Opera. Let me warn you
against foolish words. You speak evil of that which is beyond the reach of your
thought, and only little wit can excuse you. IE is THE WORST possible web
browser, period. As for Opera, it's only strong point is that, it has none. It
is no longer “the fastest web browser” (if ever it was). Firefox 3 Beta 4
smoked every browser on the planet, and out of it too. With the release of B5,
the question is more firmly set in stone. Opera has some “features”, but again,
you are thinking as an end-user. FF has all the essential features, tabbed
browsing, RSS reader, and many, MANY MORE can be added FOR FREE!!



IE has never been a good browser, and though IE7 is better
than the rest of it's miss-begotten predecessors, it still rates at the bottom
of the performance scale. Even if you have had no problems with it, switch
before you do. It is better to go through a slight inconvenience now, by switching
your bookmarks, than a major one later when your hard drive is wiped by using
IE because “it wasn't broken”.



Overview, use Firefox, and when the RC for 3 comes out,
upgrade. END OF DISCUSSION! Period.

[mphenterprises]

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[rtfire1]

Fire fox in my book is the best for the home pc!!! but for my cell oprea rocks it!! I am waiting to see what I can update my psp to I want something I can use when I am around the house but not wanting to drag my big oll 17 inch widescreen laptop around.

[CJLee89]

Does anyone know the ETA of Firefox 3?

[Evildave]

June, maybe.

http://blog.wired.co...la-final-v.html

Later, if there are still bugs to fix.

All in all, I'd rather wait until August if it means it's not full of nasty bugs like a Microsoft product.

[Knifeblade]

Uh, dark~~~~~~~ I stated it was too buggy for ME, others may have a different or friendlier experience. I don't always have the time or inclination to work through some of the glitches inherent in BETA versions. That's why many stay with or goback to a prior version, to let more experienced and better capable users work out the bugs.


My post was not an attack on anyone, and I don't see any need to be angry at me for my opinion. I wish all the BETA users the best in tweaking out the bugs for those of us who aren't able {for many and various reasons} to give the time to work them out.

I , myself, prefer and use Firefox, just not 3 at this time . Use what works for you the best, right?

[PCWizKid]

No Doubt Firefox 3.x still beats IE 8, however, we need to work on the memory resources its using. I had to do some Firefox tweaking in version 2.x
These are the tweaks I did for IE 7
http://pcwizkid.blog...ent-tweaks.html
And these are the tweaks for Firefox 2.x
http://pcwizkid.blog...up-firefox.html
Cheers

[Knifeblade]

PCWhiz, compliments on your blog. I'm going to try your Firefox tweaks. Thanks!!

[dwharbin]

I use in order of their importance: Opera, Firefox, IE7. I've used Opera for years and I have tons of bookmarks. It has some issues, nicknames in yahoo dont work and some pages just will not load in Opera. I'd probably just switch exculsively to Firefox except for the before mentioned bookmarks. Firefox will not import all of my bookmarks. In Opera I have them organized in folders, in categories but when I try to import them into Firfox it just turns into a pile, and it wont import all of them. Operas bookmark mangement IMHO is better and untill I can tranfer them inm a coherant way I'm staying with Opera.

[darklightning]

http://blog.wired.co...ox-3-troun.html look at the study to see that FF3 B4!! is faster. They are now in B5!!!!

[HarveyDanger]

Firefox is better just because of NoScript. Hell, some pages probably load faster than in Opera when there aren't a million ads to be displayed (sorry, PCWorld).
I tried Opera. but without NoScript I just couldn't keep with it.

[amazon13]

I always look at your suggestions but I never see you warning people about beta software, noting that IE even after it's final release some would consider it still in beta mode because there's always a gazillion bugs in it to be worked out. If I had a choice I wouldn't even use MSIE because it has been a pain in the but for quite some time now. Why don't anyone jump on the complaint list to MS, I don't care if the Browser is free it still messes with my computer.

[martin77084]

Why are you re-posting this old article from the 13th as though it were something new on the 21st? When you have nothing current, why don't you just say so.

[BackAgain]

Cool Website PC and will check out your tweaks more thoroughly after my IE7 is able to play Pogo games again. Evildave has been trying to help me but so far we haven't been successful so I am imposing upon you based on your tweak knowledge. Please refer to the open Discussion.




http://forums.pcworld.com/thread/30556

[oldsman1]

Good article and like Wert said, you didn't leave out Opera. I run eight browsers on my PC, for a couple of reasons. One, I can look at websites I build in each to be sure the pages load and function correctly.
Secondly, each offers funtionality I need for various projects. Firefox for SEO and site dev. Flock for Social Networking. And both have extensions for Zotero, which is a research dream tool.
I'm anxious to see Foxy 3 finished.
I will have to go back and have another look at Safari.
I do hope some community will pick up Navigator.
Thanks for your time. Keep up the good work.

[Sheeva]

In my opinion there's no "duking it out". FireFox wins hands down for me. I have tried Opera as well but it often crashes. I won't use MS IE any version for any reason and Safari just doesn't do much for me.

[gothicle]

I notice a lot of people bash IE7 based on IE5 or 6... Which you can't do.
For a long time, I was a Firefox guy. That's all I used, except to try other things so I could give my opinions in discussions and give my customers good advice. When IE7 came out, I was actually convinced to switch from Firefox to it. It's like a totally different browser than IE6 was. I catch every attempt that sites make to use ActiveX, drive by downloads are caught, and most importantly to me- compatibility with just about every site I go to. More often than not, people make their sites with IE in mind, so having IE helps.

IE7 has great security, provided you're willing to turn it on, pay attention, and you don't just blindly click "Allow".

That said, I also keep Firefox updated on all three of my computers and use it sporadically. Can't deny that it's a good browser, as is Opera. But make sure you're not talking about IE6 when you bash IE7.

[Scunnerous]

Another vote for Seamonkey here and NO, it is not insecure & out of date - it's the same code base as Firefox, and Thunderbird for e-mail. I use Seamonkey at home and Firefox in the office and I absolutely detest the latter's sidebar for Bookmarks & History. With Seamonkey I can still search either uhh, properly.

[Evildave]

I used IE7 briefly to see what it was like, but didn't see anything of merit. Sure, they FINALLY added tabs, after years of being the only major browser that DIDN'T have tabs. Sure they added a little 'security' bar similar to what ther other browsers ALREADY had.

They also added an especially annoying layer of so-called security to 'block' scripting from being run from your local machine. So if I developed a swf file and attempted to load it, or even an html document containing it, IE would disable it and make me go through their 'allow this' security crap to make it work each and every time I tested. The same content when uploaded to a web site is 'just fine'. This is odd (and stupid) because just having come from a web site does not make content automatically 'safe'. Quite the opposite, actually.

IE7 is still susceptible to all kinds of really stupid plugins just 'magically' appearing in its menus. You never ask for it, but somehow several different 'super search bar' pieces of crap tend to always pop into it out of the blue. Every halfwit developer assumes they can install neat-o IE plugins from anywhere, any time, and I guess it's A-OK, because Windows/IE just lets them do it without asking for any additional permission..

The worst thing, which can NEVER be fixed, is that Internet Explorer has ALWAYS been a terrible security threat. Even if IE7 is leaps above and beyond its previous versions in the security department, when you run IntelWindowsIE, you're still the center of the bullseye for every kind malware developer. It doesn't matter WHAT else you use. ANYTHING but Internet Explorer, and ANYTHING but Microsoft's mail clients. While the crap keeps raining down on them, IE uers are content to stand there at ground zero and watch the tornado approach.

Proclaiming how much better it is to use IE7 over IE6 is on a par with standing around in the second tower of the World trade center to watch the first one burn.

[SuperTroop]

I have not used the Microsoft browser for Years. I tried Firefox briefly but it went into the trash

very quickly when i saw it would not keep my 1000 plus favorites in the same order that I had

categorized in IE5 or 6. I have used Maxthon for several years and think it is excellent. I usually

run it with at least 15 tabs at the top, have gone to 25, and now it is 21. It has an add blocker,

stops most pop-ups, but not the one from PC World to subscribe. There have been a few times

when it was not running and I made the mistake of clicking on a link in an e-mail, so it came on

with only that web page. But there is a convenient Edit function that shows all of the web pages

you had previously been using. So you can get them all back in a minute or two. I keep it in my

quick launch toolbar that I click on first every morning, and it comes up with the same pages

that were on when I shut down the previous day.