[Klaatu]

So why do you guys think my automatic update still hasn't snagged SP1 for Vista yet?

Read somewhere that although users can download the update directly from MS's site, it's generally not recommended as it could cause some type of driver issues. Also that it's better to just let the update download automatically.

Should I simply continue to wait or force the update? Heck, it's been available for around a month now.

[mphenterprises]

Hi Klaatu. I too am waiting for the update. I do not think it is a big deal, though. It may depend on the version of Windows Vista you have; however, I am speculating. I have Windows Vista Ultimate and have not seen hind nor hair of the update.

My advise. Sit tight and wait for the update to matriculate into your system. I am sure we are not the only two people who are still waiting for the update. From what I have seen within this forum as well as other sources, SP1 is not all it's cracked up to be.

If you get too itchy and have to scratch, here is the direct Vista SP1 Update download from Microsoft.

[rtfire1]

long story short If you have driver issues with sp1 it should not down load till new drivers have been made that sp1 can work with if you force it you maybe fine or you maybe uninstalling the update

[Tech4me]

Mph. I think the one you have(Link) is for all Vista ...? That was the 1 I downloaded for my nephew last week....works fine....

(Off The topic....On other post You gave the link to SupperAntispyware.....I Installed and used it along with Avast....Do you think Its OK ?)

[mphenterprises]

Tech4me said:

Mph. I think the one you have(Link) is for all Vista ...? That was the 1 I downloaded for my nephew last week....works fine....

Hi Tech. Thanks for the news. Yes, I have been anxious as well but I see no reason to rush into it just yet. If I get to the point where I cannot wait anymore, I will force it through.

Tech4me said:

(Off The topic....On other post You gave the link to SupperAntispyware.....I Installed and used it along with Avast....Do you think Its OK ?)

As far as I am concerned, yes. SAS is a Spyware application and Avast is a Virus application. However, if you have any specific questions, feel free to post them within that Discussion and I will do my best to answer.

[rtfire1]

After a long wait my g/fs pc got its vista update last night. The issue for it not updating was a driver for the crap video card thats in there. I updated the drive did a reboot and hit ms update to see if sp1 was now there for an update and what do you know there it was. boots faster and thats about it.

[piyushsingh]

automatic update update will push sp1 only when it checks that the system will have no driver issues. This will be different for different installations as different hardware is present. This will be the case till all the driver issues are resolved. According to some sources , the date is 18th april (not sure).
Make sure you don't have any beta versions of SP1 installed , if present uninstall it. Check if the updates required for SP1 auto install are present - KB937287, KB935509, KB938371 are present. Make sure you haven't installed any service pack blocker tools offered earlier by msft.

Mine didnt show in auto updates as i didnt install the pre-requisite updates (coz i had the beta earlier), uninstalled beta and got the stand-alone one.

[Klaatu]

Microsoft Vista Update Causes USB Problems
Reading stuff like this makes me glad I haven't updated.

[Klaatu]

Vista SP1 Released to Automatic Update
Windows Vista customers can now receive the first service pack for the
operating system via the Microsoft Automatic Update...
www.pcworld.com/article/id,145030/article.html?tk=nl_dnxnws

[rgreen4]

If you have any critical or important update that is waiting to be downloaded and installed, SP1 will not show up. I was answering this on my Vista laptop and noticed that my update icon was showing. I flipped over to the update window and there was an update to the Windows Defender database and a few optional updates. SP1 was not showing, but as soon as I had downloaded and installed the WD database update, SP1 showed up again as it has for the past several weeks.

[mphenterprises]

Hi All. I just got the Automatic Update last night when I switched over into Windows Vista. I started the installation just before I went to bed and when I woke up, I was prompted to restart the computer. The full restart took about 5-10 minutes because it had to load all the different parts of the Service Pack.

Once everything loaded, I had to change the resolution of my monitors (all of them reverted to 1024 x 768). I also had to adjust the picture quality on the two smaller 30" monitors. Other than that, there was no issue whatsoever. I do not see any difference as of yet but I will post if I see any significant changes.

[piyushsingh]

mphenterprises said:

I do not see any difference as of yet but I will post if I see any significant changes.

hey mph

It may seem to a bit slow initially just after the update but it will be fine in 2-3 days as the performance data is rebuild. And ya , that was a really long restart in my case also.

[mphenterprises]

Hi Piyush. Yeah, so far, it seems pretty consistent. I will keep an eye on it over the weekend.






For those that are interested in the exact updates within Service Pack 1, click here.

[thebigguyconnor]

Hi MPH lol i haven't been here for a while I see!



I didn't get the SP1 because I heard too much bad stuff about it. Would you get it? I heard that it does speed up copying and stuff, but that it wasn't worth it because of other problems it introduced.



*PS i hope SP3 for XP's coming soon... or is it?

[rgreen4]

Hi Bigguy - I have three Vista systems, two desktops and one laptop. To date I have now upgraded two to SP1, the latest was my built up system that dual/triple boots with Vista, XP and sometimes Win2000. It is the machine that I try experiments on. At current it has 5 drives, Vista, Vista Clone, XP, XP Clone and data. I set it up this way to take to a Scout training weekend where it would be used to publish newsletters but together by teenagers. It was interesting what they did to my settings. It took me an hour to get my sound back, turned out they hand installed a HD sound driver (from within Vista as there was no internet connection) which killed the sound, but didn't want to fess up.

I simply rolled the driver back and voila - my sound worked again.

I updated the main Vista drive this morning to SP1, (from off my network drive since the download is too big for my flaky internet) and it took about an hour. There were several restarts which it took care of. I was on another machine and was aware of the restarts by the Vista "tones" on start up. If you have kept your Vista machine up-to-date with all the updates, there should be no quantum change, but before I upgrade my laptop, I will update my clone drive, JIC.

I believe I heard that XP SP3 will be released next week.

[mphenterprises]

Hi TBGConnor. Yes, haven't seen you in a while. I did install SP1 and, so far, no real difference. Yes, copying is faster because Vista no longer calculates anymore. However, other than that, I do not see a difference. I think the biggest factor in that is the fact that, at least for me, Vista was already fast. I have initial startup times of under a minute. I mean really, how much faster do I need. :D

As for Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3), I agree with RGreen, I have heard that it should be released within a week or so. Microsoft may just wait until the monthly release next month but, again, that is only a few days away anyway.

P.S. I still have the Dual Boot WikiDocument in progress. Been a long time in the making but my time is stretch very thin.

[piyushsingh]

hi rgreen

XP SP3 RTM is already available for the technet subscribers since 25th april. It will be on download center on 29th april and also on auto-updates . But there isnt much in the SP3 , just previous updates along with a couple of new things .

hi mph

regarding sp1, dont you have a decreased ram usage at idle conditions. Try hibernate and see if its better . Best of all, see network file copy rate. And dont forget a new format when formatting the portable drives. There wasnt much except file copy problem in vista that needed fixing and that has been done in sp1.

[Flashorn]

Hey All!!

Yes Piyush you re right , SP3 is available right now.

Here is what they ( TechNet ) have to say about it


h1. Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3)
Updated April 23, 2008

Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) stand-alone is now available for download. Windows XP SP3 includes all previously released updates for the operating system, in addition to a small number of new updates. Windows XP SP3 will not significantly change the Windows XP experience.

Installation media and documentation on disc for Windows XP SP3 may sometimes refer to Windows XP SP2. Windows XP SP2 installation guide instructions apply to Windows XP SP3.
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Get Windows XP Service Pack 3

Subscribers:
* Windows XP Service Pack 3 stand-alone version Top Subscriber Downloads section
Non-subscribers:

Windows XP SP3 will be available to non-subscribers on 4/29 via Windows Update and Microsoft Download Center.



I think I just gave you a direct link to download the SP3 .

I will today or tomorrow install SP3 and see if it will affect anything.

I just finished cleaning out and defragging and reorganized

my PC for this purpose. I will report my findings in a few days.



FLASHORN.

[mphenterprises]

Hi All. Let's try to avoid turning this Discussion into a SP3 Discussion. A brief notation is okay but let's stick to Vista's SP1 within this Discussion.




Hi Piyush. Regarding my recent installation, my RAM and CPU Usage is minimal as it is (maximum at boot is 23%). I have noticed a small increase (by increase I mean decrease CPU Usage). Personally, I believe I may be the wrong person to test whether SP1 is worth the installation. My average CPU and RAM usage is another person's initial figures. I have been blessed so far that my system is at its peak, and will be at its for a long time.

[Klaatu]

Vista SP1 auto updates also halted

Microsoft says it has stopped automatically updating machines to

Vista Service Pack 1 after discovering a bug that can cause

problems between the OS and another of the company's products.

Tue, Apr 29 12:17:00 PDT 2008

Might be good to wait until SP2 ;)