Browser Battle: Firefox 3.1 vs. Chrome vs. IE 8
#21
Posted 10 September 2008 - 02:26 PM
Well i never new that! (that will teach me for bein click happy tryin new stuff out)
With invasive features like that chrome doesn't stand a chance of bein top browser, But with the uber brand that is G0000000000GLE behind it, it isn't realty upto Joe Public to decide wether it stays or goes :-(
I reckon by christmas it will be getting bundled with other downloads, left right and centre.
With invasive features like that chrome doesn't stand a chance of bein top browser, But with the uber brand that is G0000000000GLE behind it, it isn't realty upto Joe Public to decide wether it stays or goes :-(
I reckon by christmas it will be getting bundled with other downloads, left right and centre.
#23
Posted 11 September 2008 - 07:41 AM
Google's Chrome has maxed out at only 1% of the global market so far - in fact over the last week its usage dropped to 0.7%.
Opera has 1% of global share, and its usage across the globe is uneven. It has higher market share outside the US, up to 4% in places like Australia, and its adoption rate is slowly growing outside the US due to its popularity on mobile devices. Ultimately, what makes it a contender is that its development is being sustained at a rate faster than IE. It's not just about market share. It's one of the most mature browsers out there. Google's only being considered based on the strength of it's brand rather than its browser.
Opera has 1% of global share, and its usage across the globe is uneven. It has higher market share outside the US, up to 4% in places like Australia, and its adoption rate is slowly growing outside the US due to its popularity on mobile devices. Ultimately, what makes it a contender is that its development is being sustained at a rate faster than IE. It's not just about market share. It's one of the most mature browsers out there. Google's only being considered based on the strength of it's brand rather than its browser.
#28
Posted 13 September 2008 - 07:31 AM
Agreed as well. I've used Firefox for as long as I remember until I gave Opera a shot. Never went back. I tried all new betas (IE8:Chrome) though I should state IE8 Beta 2 was impressive to me with it's new features and also felt faster than IE7. Opera has a great desktop team (http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/) and looking foward to version 10. So I dont get it. Is it because the developers are not from America (Norwegian) or not an American based Browser, that the're not even mentioned in this article??? Hope thers's a really good reason. "It's Opera People" "Get it together"
#29
Posted 13 September 2008 - 08:02 AM
Opera has always been an under-estimated browser . Its global usage share is just 1% but its a popular browser in Asia and Australia. Australia usage is 4% and the stats are as high as 19% in Russia. Why is it not known to many is because of the fact that they don't spend much $ on advertising on websites and other places as most other popular browsers do. You will see text on bottom or top of many pages that will state best viewed with XYZ browser . Till date i haven't seen any web page stating the same for Opera. They save money on un-necessary things and spend it more on making their products better and better.
Most other browsers will take years to get all the features that Opera currently has.Opera 10 will be a major update , they just released 9.60 beta. I started using Opera when it became totally free with ver. 8.5 in 2005 and i have been using this since then .
Don't worry about the battle of the other browsers. Opera is never included and it stays very well apart and ahead of the rest. The knights don't fight with the pawns. ;-)
Most other browsers will take years to get all the features that Opera currently has.Opera 10 will be a major update , they just released 9.60 beta. I started using Opera when it became totally free with ver. 8.5 in 2005 and i have been using this since then .
Don't worry about the battle of the other browsers. Opera is never included and it stays very well apart and ahead of the rest. The knights don't fight with the pawns. ;-)
#31
Posted 15 September 2008 - 02:02 PM
In my last post I forget to note that I now use Firefox exclusively. Haven't yet found anything I can't do with it, including access Microsoft updates with the IE add-on installed. I'm not much for "skins" and themes, but I just installed the Chromifox theme, which is a quite good attempt to give Firefox the cool Chrome look. I think it's a worthwhile improvement on the original.
#33
Posted 08 October 2008 - 10:04 AM
I am removing Firefox as soon as I make this post. There is one fatal and ridiculous flaw. When you attempt to enter a web address, your bookmarks drop down and anyone can see them. I've tried to remove it, clear browsing history, nothing works. No thank you!
#34
Posted 08 October 2008 - 10:19 AM
soetsme said:
I am removing Firefox as soon as I make this post. There is one fatal and ridiculous flaw. When you attempt to enter a web address, your bookmarks drop down and anyone can see them. I've tried to remove it, clear browsing history, nothing works. No thank you!
Only if you left-click on the little down-arrow button on the right side of the address bar, otherwise Firefox 3.0.3 acts like any other browser when you click inside the address bar.
#37
Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:23 AM
When you all speak about how browsers like Opera and Safari are taking off in other countries, you may be not realizing a few things. In most countries there broadband connection are not nearly as fas as ours. In fact in some countries there broadband is slwer then our DSL. So a browser that can be fast on a slower connection speed compared to what we have here with Comcast or others makes a huge difference. I too notice pages lood faster in other browsers, but something is always different in the look.
The other browser lack of support for most of what is on the web don't make the all really good choices either. Many of you say IE is less secure. Well test have shown that to be totally not true. However because IE is teh most used bowser, if you want to write an exploitation for applications doing it through a market that has 80% of the pie means your work has a better chance of getting out there. Which is the same reason virus developers who get paid or not attack Windows because it has 90% of teh market vs Mac OS and Linux and thus it guarantee the virus will spread. Which is why relasing a diesease on a more populated area is more deadlier then if it happens on a remote island.
I can't comment on Chrome because I have yet to install it. But I do use IE 90% of teh time and I use Firefox and have used Safari and Opera before. The latter 3 are faster simply because they don't support many web application as IE does. But once you install plugins for support FF is an can be just as slow. The fact IE's core is built into the OS should make it very fast...but is isn't because it is OS dependent while the other browsers are not thus increasing there speed.
But speed isn't everything. A Lamborghimi is obviously faster than a Vette...but how much good is having more speed when traffic on the expressway is only moving at 55. The fact you can skin FF is really cool and I do like that feature. But looks are everything either. And there are skinning tools for IE, it really just not needed.
When it comes to browsing, what should matter is web support, securty and ease of usage. They all do very well and IE leads the pack. It takes time to hack a browsers security that is why most attacks are indirect. Most attacks are caused by the user themselves and they just simply blame teh software. if you always visit trusted sites, install trusted software and installed trusted plugins, security would't even be an issue. At least IE warns of these problems, while the others many times do not. Some complain about MS having to much control. Now I see you can't even control when the software updates itself in other browswers. Something you always have in IE. Sometimes better in one way is worse than others.
However I a glad that we have some competition in the market. First it shows just how good MS products actually are and how much better they in fact should be. Having teh best support isn't enough and now that cost isn't an issue being free isnt enough either. People are demanding more and MS needs to start taking the lead vs following. But following is good in many espects.In the video game industry Ninitendo always let teh other guys go first....that way you make lesser mistake when it is your turn. You ever notice when they release a system they dont have callbacks? Sometimes being last makes you number 1 after teh smoke clears.
The last tests on beta browsers show'd IE has less issues...yet they still rated teh others better? That just undue biased. We all need to realize having all the money in the world doesn't mean you will always have the best product. However MS in fact should be a better leader in many segments bec when they fail to produce a good product it really makes them look bad especially bec they are watched more bec of their marketshare.
I dont care about looks or speed, I care about what works...and IE works 99% of the time. The fact that web development software uses IE as its standard in design issues IE will always be compatible online. The other browsers you always have to fix something that isnt broke to make sure the will work on a webpage. Its painful. I went to flash for my web site simply bec trying to make an html page compatible with ll browser requires to much work. I miss the days of plain siple.
The other browser lack of support for most of what is on the web don't make the all really good choices either. Many of you say IE is less secure. Well test have shown that to be totally not true. However because IE is teh most used bowser, if you want to write an exploitation for applications doing it through a market that has 80% of the pie means your work has a better chance of getting out there. Which is the same reason virus developers who get paid or not attack Windows because it has 90% of teh market vs Mac OS and Linux and thus it guarantee the virus will spread. Which is why relasing a diesease on a more populated area is more deadlier then if it happens on a remote island.
I can't comment on Chrome because I have yet to install it. But I do use IE 90% of teh time and I use Firefox and have used Safari and Opera before. The latter 3 are faster simply because they don't support many web application as IE does. But once you install plugins for support FF is an can be just as slow. The fact IE's core is built into the OS should make it very fast...but is isn't because it is OS dependent while the other browsers are not thus increasing there speed.
But speed isn't everything. A Lamborghimi is obviously faster than a Vette...but how much good is having more speed when traffic on the expressway is only moving at 55. The fact you can skin FF is really cool and I do like that feature. But looks are everything either. And there are skinning tools for IE, it really just not needed.
When it comes to browsing, what should matter is web support, securty and ease of usage. They all do very well and IE leads the pack. It takes time to hack a browsers security that is why most attacks are indirect. Most attacks are caused by the user themselves and they just simply blame teh software. if you always visit trusted sites, install trusted software and installed trusted plugins, security would't even be an issue. At least IE warns of these problems, while the others many times do not. Some complain about MS having to much control. Now I see you can't even control when the software updates itself in other browswers. Something you always have in IE. Sometimes better in one way is worse than others.
However I a glad that we have some competition in the market. First it shows just how good MS products actually are and how much better they in fact should be. Having teh best support isn't enough and now that cost isn't an issue being free isnt enough either. People are demanding more and MS needs to start taking the lead vs following. But following is good in many espects.In the video game industry Ninitendo always let teh other guys go first....that way you make lesser mistake when it is your turn. You ever notice when they release a system they dont have callbacks? Sometimes being last makes you number 1 after teh smoke clears.
The last tests on beta browsers show'd IE has less issues...yet they still rated teh others better? That just undue biased. We all need to realize having all the money in the world doesn't mean you will always have the best product. However MS in fact should be a better leader in many segments bec when they fail to produce a good product it really makes them look bad especially bec they are watched more bec of their marketshare.
I dont care about looks or speed, I care about what works...and IE works 99% of the time. The fact that web development software uses IE as its standard in design issues IE will always be compatible online. The other browsers you always have to fix something that isnt broke to make sure the will work on a webpage. Its painful. I went to flash for my web site simply bec trying to make an html page compatible with ll browser requires to much work. I miss the days of plain siple.
#38
Posted 14 June 2009 - 06:01 PM
{font:Arial}{size:5}COMMENT to PCWorld Article Re: "Browser Battle: Firefox 3.1 vs. Chrome vs. IE 8"{size}{font}
{font:Arial}When most people read an "analysis and comparison" of the different Browsers such as Firefox, 3.1, vs. Chrome, vs. IE 8), I believe that what what we all really want to see is a BOTTOM LINE Conclusion and Recommendation of which one PCWorld Specifically finds to be "THE Number 1," and the specific reasons why. I'm sure there will be some people who disagree, and many who will agree with me.
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{font:Arial}The long discussion of the Pro's and Cons is helpful, and necessary, but it is still unclear, because it contains a number of "However" and "On the other Hand's"without really drawing a Firm Conclusion and Recommendation. For this reason I gave the Article a "Thumbs Down Rating." I believe that a discussion should contain Conclusions and Recommendations.
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{font:Arial} I would like to see a Very Firm and Solid Recommendation from PCWorld, such as: "BOTTOM LINE: After considering all of the factors discussed, PCWorld Recommends XXX, for the following reasons: " {font}
{font:Arial}Until a specific Conclusion and Recommendation is given, I've concluded that I will personally stay away from IE and stick with Firefox. Why? Because everyone (including my own Computer Consultant, and several others) I speak with likes Firefox the best, and we are all getting Great Results with it. {font}
{font:Arial}The jury is still out on Google Chrome in my mind. However, it is very clear from your discussion that IE has too many very serious virus dangers and issues, at least in my mind. {font}
{font:Arial}Sincerely,{font}
{font:Arial}Ed Johnson, J.D., Attorney (Ret)
San Antonio, Texas
{font}{font:Arial}www.EdJohnson.me{font}{font:Arial}
(Bio){font}
{font:Arial}When most people read an "analysis and comparison" of the different Browsers such as Firefox, 3.1, vs. Chrome, vs. IE 8), I believe that what what we all really want to see is a BOTTOM LINE Conclusion and Recommendation of which one PCWorld Specifically finds to be "THE Number 1," and the specific reasons why. I'm sure there will be some people who disagree, and many who will agree with me.
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{font:Arial}The long discussion of the Pro's and Cons is helpful, and necessary, but it is still unclear, because it contains a number of "However" and "On the other Hand's"without really drawing a Firm Conclusion and Recommendation. For this reason I gave the Article a "Thumbs Down Rating." I believe that a discussion should contain Conclusions and Recommendations.
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{font:Arial} I would like to see a Very Firm and Solid Recommendation from PCWorld, such as: "BOTTOM LINE: After considering all of the factors discussed, PCWorld Recommends XXX, for the following reasons: " {font}
{font:Arial}Until a specific Conclusion and Recommendation is given, I've concluded that I will personally stay away from IE and stick with Firefox. Why? Because everyone (including my own Computer Consultant, and several others) I speak with likes Firefox the best, and we are all getting Great Results with it. {font}
{font:Arial}The jury is still out on Google Chrome in my mind. However, it is very clear from your discussion that IE has too many very serious virus dangers and issues, at least in my mind. {font}
{font:Arial}Sincerely,{font}
{font:Arial}Ed Johnson, J.D., Attorney (Ret)
San Antonio, Texas
{font}{font:Arial}www.EdJohnson.me{font}{font:Arial}
(Bio){font}
#40
Posted 11 July 2009 - 09:43 AM
First: i have promised my self to never use IE ever again, it is a huge security risk and it is way too cluttered
Second: i use chrome and love it, it is so simple yet effective and one thing the article didnt mention is how when your downloading something you can stilol go to other sites on the same tab
Third: i like Firefox but why isn't safari in the review? I like safari better than Firefox and safari is safer.
Second: i use chrome and love it, it is so simple yet effective and one thing the article didnt mention is how when your downloading something you can stilol go to other sites on the same tab
Third: i like Firefox but why isn't safari in the review? I like safari better than Firefox and safari is safer.
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