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Posted 19 October 2008 - 04:00 PM

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Posted 21 October 2008 - 10:40 PM

Unfortunately, many of the people that I know that have been mislead are the elderly. Many of them are not computer literate, or they maybe newbies. For many of them, checking their email is their regular routines.
So, when my Mom tells me of something she read in an email, and is taking it to heart, I now ask her where and how she learned the "latest about what Obama did...or McCain saya that he is going to do this"
I believe that if computer literate members of the family should encourage their parents to talk about what they see on the computer. This might help alleviate a small portion of these outrageous, and simply un American dirty politics.
Thanks
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Posted 27 October 2008 - 07:50 AM

One clever (and very dirty) trick: automatic phoning which appears to come from the OPPONENT...and annoys the voter, sometimes calling many times in a row. Mother Jones reports this one being used to good effect last election. What a great way to turn a voter into a non-voter, or even get them to vote for you.
I think all automated calling should be ILLEGAL! But they don't care what I think.
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Posted 27 October 2008 - 07:54 AM

What could be worse than these tactics is the spread of false information through mass e-mailings from friends, relatives, and co-workers. I received just such a false email from someone about the Obama lapel pin/pledge of allegiance hoax. I decided to risk offense to the sender by replying the the group that the story was untrue and referenced snopes.com as my evidence.
The person who sent the original e-mail is very close to me and I'm afraid this has put a rift between us, but I cannot in good conscience let such misinformation spread.
I wonder how much false information is floating around out there between people who are scared to speak up against the false information for fear of alienating a friend or family member.
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Posted 28 October 2008 - 01:09 AM

ON MOST issues & hoaxes SNOPES is a good reference.
In the case of this Presidential Election;
The founder/managing director of SNOPES is RABIDLY PRO OBAMA & violently opposed
to McCain; THE NRA; BUSH-Cheney; & is in bed with Pelosi; REED ; & any left leaning cause. Check with Sean Hannity!
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Posted 28 October 2008 - 03:04 AM

You're quoting Sean Hannity as a source? That's the biggest joke of all. That man wouldn't know the truth if it was shoved in his face. The fact is he is one of the most unreliable sources in America. strictly quoting the Neo-Con talking points of the day and interviews that ask questions phrased to allow no good answer. You know the kind of question. "Did you ever stop eating your wife?" type. One thing you can be sure of is that if Sean Hannity said it, it isn't going to be true. That's why FOX News has him on, because they promote a Neo-Con agenda. I liked McCain UNTIL he switched to the Neo-Con platform with everything tilted to the richest at the expense of the middle class. That's why on the presidential election I am an undervote. (I already voted and left the presidential selection blank.)
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Posted 28 October 2008 - 03:23 PM

How about listing some examples of Sean Hannity's many lies? I listen to him frequently and have checked out alot of his statements. Sorry, but I haven't found him lying yet.
Maybe you don't agree with his politics. That's fine. But that doesn't qualify him as a liar.
Glad you didn't vote. You obviously don't know beans about the truthfulness of the candidates.
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 02:04 PM

I avoid him like the plague because his lies infuriate me so much so what I will bring up is pretty old. In 2000 he made many statements about Al Gore lying which were false. Specifically one of the lies he made was that Al Gore claimed to have invented the Internet. Al gore never claimed that. What he did say was that he was there when the vote to pay for the establishment of the internet was made.

I challenge you to find me one occasion where he stated something true that was not 100% in line with Neo-con propaganda. That should be easy since you watch him so much. It'll be a lot tougher than you realize since he lies so much. The problem is that the acknowledged source for debunking is Snopes, and of course he lies that they are politically biased because they expose his lies. He also tells lies about factcheck.org. Anyone that is not neo-con must be lying about him.
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 03:02 PM

Well, then, bring up something that is not so old. From what I understand, anyone who is not a liberal, such as yourself, is a "neo-con". Al Gore is an idiot. And a major hypocrite.

Put up some more examples of Hannity's lies. There just aren't any. When liberals are faced with the facts, they start screaming "Lies!!" That's because they know that if the facts are really put forward, people will run from their agendas.

Sorry, I have a life and don't have time to argue with idiots. Go ahead and say what you will. Matters not one whit to me. I know the truth when I see and hear it.

Obama is a LIAR. And if he wins, you will see it for yourself. Oh, and "whereami", says alot about you. Obviously not in the real world.
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 05:16 PM

First off I am not a liberal. I am a Goldwater conservative, supported Nixon and I liked Gerald Ford. I detest Neo-cons who have corrupted conservativism by transforming it into a twisted deceptive version of what being a conservative is supposed to be about. Do you really think that privatising the military supply lines was a good idea? How about selling our ports to the arabs like Bush wanted to do until it became public and then he stated he didn't think it was really an issue. I simply hate the Bush family because they will sell this country to anybody for the right price. I didn't like Reagan's policies, but I knew he did it believing it was for the good of the country. The Bush family places themselves above the good of the country.

As for more of Hannity's lies, how about perpetrating the lies about Canadian medical care. My mother was a Canadian. She needed to go to the hospital and was admitted in 15 minutes, not put on a 2 month waiting list like Hannity keeps claiming happens to every one there. I was in a U.S. hospital a few months back and it took me longer to get in than it took her, and I had to go into intensive care, so it wasn't a question of delaying because my stay wasn't necessary. Her bill was $0 for a 2 month stay. My bills for 9 days were over $50,000 (still waiting for the bills to stop coming) before insurance but after insurance were $2000 because I have excellent insurance, and it stopped there because my insurance has a $2000 annual maximum co-pay. But if my medical bills were to continue, the insurance caps out and I would go bankrupt. Even a wealthy person like Christopher Reeves went broke from his medical bills when his insurance ran out.

As far as Gore goes, the man is far from perfect. I didn't claim he was. I simply stated that Hannity lied about him where you were claiming that Hannity never lies. I also stated that I stopped watching him because he lies so much. I stopped a long time ago so I don't have much more recent except for a few misquotes that he made of Obama, Kerry, and Gore. I don't say I like them. Notice I said that I didn't vote for Obama. I also think he lies and can't be trusted. I think McCain is more likely to keep his word, BUT I don't like what McCain promises in order to curry favor with the right wing grass roots of his party and I am afraid to see him keep his word, and even more afraid that he will die in office and leave us in the hands of his truly stupid running mate.

As for my signature line, the first 3 choices I made were already taken. I then remembered the famous line from the vice-presidential debates between Gore, Quayle and Perot's running mate Vice Admiral Stockdale. Stockdale opened with "Who am I? What am I doing here?"

As for being an idiot, I wager that I am better informed than you, better educated and more skeptical of media personalities. NOBODY in the public eye always tells the truth. I don't care that you are naive enough to believe that any person could be repeatedly promoting any cause be it liberal or conservative without bending the truth occasionally. Hannity just bends it till it breaks too often to tolerate.I have a technical degree (engineer) and I read insatiably. I even used to watch O'Reilly until he started to fall into the Fox News mind trap to spew talking point and started spinning on his no-spin zone.



BTW: name calling is usually the last refuge of the mentally incompetent and sexually frustrated. So be careful what you say here.
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 05:48 PM

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 06:43 PM

You know, I truly owe you an apology. I am very sorry for my tone. My husband was diagnosed with prostate cancer yesterday (no excuse, I know) but my nerves have gone out the window. If you say Hannity has lied, you are probably right. I just never caught him in one.

Please accept my apology.

Lisa
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 07:17 PM

I accept your apology. I wish your husband many years of good health and I will say a prayer for him. I don't do that for many as I am only a semi-religious person, but I know that every little bit helps. As for Hannity and lies, let's just leave it that I am skeptical of anything he says and you are trusting of him. In all things there are shades of gray and how white or black we see them depends on our own view since that colors the lense we use to see the same thing. Police say that the least reliable evidence is the eye witness since no 2 eyewitnesses see the same thing.



BTW I keep telling my wife to stop trying to sell me on Obama. I voted early so that she would stop pushing me to vote for him. Didn't help.
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