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Posted 27 October 2008 - 07:40 AM

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Posted 27 October 2008 - 09:23 AM

While 10.5 has some little quirks in it, I can certainly say that our Mac with 10.5 is alot more stable than our windows machines are hands down. Since upgrading to 10.5 from 10.4, I don't remember is crashing other than the times when I go and do a cut and paste in PowerPoint for Mac. I alsp don't have to worry about re-installing drivers for a device after bootup, especially when the device was working before the Windows machine was powered off.

While laptops with windows can be purchased at lower prices then mac laptops can be, I prefer the stability of 10.5 and 10.4 for that matter and would gladly pay a more for the stability.
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Posted 27 October 2008 - 11:14 AM

Good Article.
More stable than Windows XP or Vista? That must be a joke or you are really managing your Windows machines incorrectly. Article left out how Adobe CS3 was not stable until 10.5.4 (That was a fun one) I manage over 200 computers, 50/50 split 100 Mac to 100 PC. My new rule with the next Mac release 10.6... wait 1 year before implementation.
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Posted 27 October 2008 - 12:05 PM

Its not joke and that would be Windows XP, no thanks to Vista, hasn't been out long enough! If you are managing 200 computers you should know to wait because down time means money. Same as buying a new model car, no thanks, I will wait for a few years. I don't have 200 machines to look after here at home, but they do get alot of use alongside the Solaris server with Oracle development database on it and the Linux system that I also have running. Those 2 boxes just keep ticking along and they get the patches that are needed for them. Windows has auto update turned on and they give more grief then they are worth. When they die they will be replaced by Macs. Period, end of story.

I have did unix admin for many years and will take any platform that is unix based over windows based anyday!

If Adobe CS3 gives grief, thats not a fault of the OS, thats a fault of Adobe.
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Posted 27 October 2008 - 12:10 PM

I concur - great article! Only peeve with it is that the author continually refers to pictures that we can't see in the article. I'm guessing this was an editing decision and that the printed version would include the pictures. I am a third-level tech for a large financial company and we administer primarily Windows machines and seven Macs between our marketing and graphics departments. The recent OS X 10.5.5 upgrade made a nice headache for an Adobe CS3 user as well. I strongly suggested to them to stop automatically downloading updates themselves after that one. In general, I'm enjoying learning the fine differences between Mac OS X and Windows flavors, and can see why creative types might use Macs, but Windows desktops still are much better suited to over 90% of business users. It just depends on what you need your computer for what you should get. And this was supposed to be dealing with Leopard shortcomings as the title suggests, not another Windows vs. OS X debate. The stereotypical snarky response of the first commenter only further entrenches the unfair stereotype that fair-minded users on both sides know isn't true, but is too frequently the case accurate. Again, kudos for a brilliant article - keep up the great work!
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Posted 27 October 2008 - 07:54 PM

Oh oh, looks like I ticked off another Windows guru.
To the author, your article was well written, nice work.
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Posted 28 October 2008 - 08:12 AM

Hey ericm, I wasn't angry. I can see how my comment could have been read that way after reading your comment. Sorry for the confusion. My point was this article is about Leopard only not OS X vs. Windows, but so many (on BOTH sides) like to make the debate when there's no call for it. Like I said in my post, I'm learning to appreciate why the Apple enthusiasts like it, I've worked in IT for the financial industry my entire professional career (15+ years), so naturally my exposure is primarily PCs, but I'm appreciating the differences.

Thanks for your comment on mine, and no harm intended.
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Posted 28 October 2008 - 08:18 AM

Yeah, I would agree that XP and Vista nowadays are just as stable as Leo. I too run a network at a school that is 70% Mac and the other 20% PC. In no way is Leo a better more stable operating system than XP or Vista. I think Updates are just as annoying on any platform. I am not an advocate for Microsoft or Mac but in the middle and understand neither is perfect nor will they ever.
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