[JcHc3in1]

coastie65, that's possible. I haven't seen or played any other version so I can't really know. Very sad that that happened to my friends though. What's the point in playing for hours and progressing if you have to start all over again at the beginning the next time you play?

[coastie65]

Yeah, it was a bitagaravating when I was playing Tomb Raider : Underworld. It was autosaving, but no log was made, and I lost a bunch of headway. I started saving it myself then, and have got a pretty good log of save files. I actually deleted some files in Drake's Fortune as the list was getting rather long. :D

[blackou19]

To say that World of Warcraft does not have a progressive story line is
dross. There are at least 14 published books thus far in the Warcraft series,
all of which are represented ingame in some form or another. This is a lore
rich game.

I do agree that Tolkien’s epic is just that, and that all fantasy writing has
been greatly influenced by his vision but it was the beginning, not the zenith.




Balanced reviews please, this is not ‘Zeropunctuation’, although I do love
him.



/Ladygamer

[AuroraDizon]

Though Wow has nothing original.. eh perhaps a few things..mostly ripped off. Meanwhile most things in fantasy now a days are influenced (sometimes to an annoyingly copyright infringing degree) by Tolkien's world, he masterfully, but merely built upon old legends. Much like Bram Stokers Dracula is based off a combination of legend and Vlad the Impaler. Anyway what I'm trying to say is Tolkien was not the beginning, and world of warcraft is far from any pinnacle.

[CalvinMontana]

Turbine might have made a decent game (it was decent and nothing more) but they are one of the worst when it comes to customer care, follow up and honesty.



Reading their report in the BBB will tell a story of hundreds of complaints and a grand total of zero/nada/zilch effort to settle the disputes. The BBB honors them with a VERY UNSATISFACTORYrating and a poor choice to do business with. I can attest to that being I was an original founder but after a year, I paidgame time with a game card (official product of Turbine) and because of that and that only, they stripped me of founders status.A founder is a founder even regardless if I no longer even play the game or whatever association.I have the saved email where they actually told me "because you paid for game time with our official game card instead of a credit card you are no longer a founder.



When I mentioned this action against my founders account in the forums they decided to hide my posts from the many others who were questioning why they are no longer founders. Scumbags is putting it lightly.



Butter it up any way you wish but a turd is a turd no matter what color you paint it.

Im quite sure copyright owners are considering action due to the fact they have been contacted several times by hundreds of people commenting on how Turbine has left a bad flavor for their copyrighted writtings of Lord Of The Rings. I deleted my account, all

[davideyoung]

On Lord of the Rings Online (LOTRO), it may be a nice game, but two reasons right off the bat it does not compare with the likes of WarCraft:

1 - 12 to 18 hour installation time. You read that right. When you initially install the game, it does not let you play until it installs more than 27,000 updates, taking a total of 12 to 18 hours of instant internet connection in a fast line such as DSL or high speed cable.

2 - In order to play at all, you must agree to a monthly fee ON TOP OF your purchase price.

All comparable fantasy action games are free to play offline and many are free to play online as well, and you can install most in a few minutes. So if buying this as a "Christmas pick" for someone, you need to ask if it is worth them spending a day or more just waiting on the install and then paying monthly fees to access? This is a gift that could make the receiver angry if it is not EXACTLY what they want. It will cost them money and it an inconvenient amount of time, having nothing to do with the game play.

[justlikeaphoto]

World of Warcraft isn't much better. Besides installing the main game (probably about an hour or so) and Patching up to the Pre-Burning Crusade Patch (add another 2 to 3 hours) you then have to install the first expansion (add another hour or so). Now you get to have Patches 2.0.1 through 3.0.2 download and install. Add another 2 to 3 hours, possibly more depending on your interenet connection. All done now, right? Nope. Now install Wrath of the Lich King. This one does quite a bit better, probably only a 30 minute or so install, then you can download one more Patch and finally play. This is of course if you want full access to ALL the content.

And you do have a monthly fee with WoW in addition to the cost of the game plus the expansions (which would be about $70.00 all together if you get the vanilla copy plus TBC in the Battle Chest) which is $15.00 a month. Pretty much every premium MMO requires a month subscription, regardless if it's WoW, LotRO, or even AoC. That's just how it works.
It's an MMORPG, Massively Multiplayer ONLINE Role Playing Game. The ONLINE section pretty much states that yes, you will be playing on line, and yes you will likely be paying for it too. That is of course unless you want to consider something like Hell Gate: London an MMO, or Diablo.

[Lowne]

I had to register just to respond to this post......


"1 - 12 to 18 hour installation time.
You read that right. When you initially install the game, it does not
let you play until it installs more than 27,000 updates, taking a total
of 12 to 18 hours of instant internet connection in a fast line such as
DSL or high speed cable."

True, the installation time is a bit lengthy I agree but ALL MMO's are pretty much the same in this respect.



"2 - In order to play at all, you must agree to a monthly fee ON TOP OF your purchase price."

Correct. All MMORPG's require a monthly fee.....ALL.

There are RPG type games such as Guild Wars and "We-release-a-new-one-every-month" Korean online games that do not but none of those can be considered a a premium MMO anyway. Furthemore most of those games (not GW but again, it's not an MMO) still charge you but in a different way.

Your statement of "All comparable fantasy action games are free to play offline and many are free to play online as well" indicates to me that you haven't checked out any games on the Best Seller list since Diablo was king. There are no comparable games to World of Warcraft, Lord of the Rings Online, Everquest, Everquest 2, Warhammer Online, Star War Galaxies, Eve, (the list goes on and on) that don't have a monthly fee.

These are HUGE persistent worlds that require server farms, constant updates and a large amount of man power to keep going.



So please, before you go misinforming everyone who might read your post you might want to make sure that you know what you're speaking about.