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[dtla1730]

AMD has always innovated with far fewer resources than Intel. Intel has always had insane R+D capital and hasn't done as much groundbreaking. Remember that AMD was the leader until Intel overtook them with the Core2 Duo. That wasn't that long ago. And when it looked as though Intel had finally gotten off its arse public response was more like, "Uh....where've you been?"

So feelings of disdain aren't quite what I have for AMD.

With the economy the way it is, however, I find brand loyalty taking a backseat to practicality. That said, I just built a gaming machine with an AMD 6500+ (3.0 GHz), 790GX mobo, 8GB of OCZ ram, an HD3870 vidcard and two Seagate hdds (raid 0) and the most expensive component was the vidcard- $104 when I bought it. smirk The proc was 79, the mobo was 89 and I'm playing COD4 maxed out at 1680x1050.

AMD wins again. :|

[ash2525]

I Agree with you i am using a 90nm AMD 6000+ I have 4gb of ram and a HD3850 card it runs everything fine (GAMES).
I do not see any need for more speed right now.

[dlauber]

I realize these online columns cater to the computer enthusiasts among us, may of whom crave speed for the sake of speed.

But in the real world of business and consumers where most people use only a fraction of the power their PCs offer, the AMD Phenom II CPUs are perfect chips -- more than meeting their needs at less than the comparable Intel CPUs. For most they don't even need the power of a Phemon II.

So while AMD has given Intel free reign on the really high end CPU market, AMD continues to offer a really solid and much more affordable alternative for the rest of the computing world -- and you don't have replace your motherboard and RAM with each new iteration of AMD's CPUs.

[citizendigital]

I agree with everyones statement. I built my parents a computer that far exceeded their needs (Pictures, online media, email, music) and went with AMD. Only cost me about 250 bucks for the whole computer. It was at least 100 more if i went Intel. And money matters a lot right now.

[lerxst]

Funny; I've read over 20 reviews on this processor and their benchmarks place this CPU on a much higher pedestal than PCWorld's. In fact, take price into account and the Phenom II does actually blow Intel's comparable offerings "out of the water". I don't need to upgrade my motherboard either? There's a clear winner here ladies and gentlemen and it isn't Intel.
Hey PC World; what's Intel's annual contribution to your ad revenue coffers? What a joke! Now if you could excuse me; I'm off to read some real unbiased and far more analytical reviews.

[glnbnz]

Sorry again amd junk is just that JUNK. And they can't even or ever keep up with INTEL.
I laugh at all the excuses you amd "lovers" just like to throw out there. It is very entertaining.
I am a network administrator and there is one amd computer left on my network from before I took over. I can't wait to replace the piece of crap with an INTEL computer. It is the slowest, junkiest computer here.

[lerxst]

Thanks for the insight. I'm not a fanboy for either Intel or AMD; I just hate irresponsible journalism. So you're an admin huh? Somehow I doubt that.

[glnbnz]

You obivously don't know what you are talking about since you have to "read" everything and I take my "real" world experiences into account. Doubt my "Admin" experience all you want (I don't have to PROVE anything to you) but this network runs 100 times more smoothly on INTEL now that I have the amd junk out of it!!

[lucanus43]

It's not about who's the best, I mean let's face it, who goes around upgrading their computer ever few months when a new one comes out? I have a friend who runs TF2 on a sempron 1.8ghz. It works fine, I used to have a P4 2.6Ghz and it died serving me a loyal, what, 6 years now? It's about what you need, not what you want. AMD is what I need, plainly I love this company because, DESPITE it's loss against Intel, despite the failure it's falling into, they arent money sucking leaches. They dont want you to upgrade your motherboard, or buy a new motherboard just because they make the chipset, they just want to impress the customer, and that's something that we must all admire from AMD. Frankly I see no point in what Intel is doing with their Core i7s. They want you to upgrade your motherboard, RAM, and everything, geez people, It's not like they make the motherboard anyway. Intel is following the path that Microsoft took once, the path that lead them to failure - I'm just curious to see if Intel fails the same way.

AMD Wins, maybe not in performance, but in impressing the customer. They deserve to win.

[dbdouglass]

I favor AMD for a number of reasons, the first being system to bind the CPU to the mainboard. The AMD clips are so much easier and a more positive bond CPU to heatsink than the Intel 775. I just despise that "dog dick" system of Intel's. I build my own computers for special projects at school processing astronomical x-ray data. I run my BIY AMDs against big, powerful Xeon array-based Macs and Intel quad-cores and yes, the more expensive computers "win" in the sense they finish the processing a few seconds or a minute sooner on the big heavy compute-intensive jobs, but the AMD platforms are so much cheaper that the extra few seconds gained are not to me compelling against the 12,000 dollar Macs, or the 3,000 dollar Intel worskations. My $800 AMD Phenom quad-core workstation can do everything the much more expensive computers can do. How can you in an academic setting where funds are very limited tell me that a few seconds or even a few minutes for that matter are any more than another couple sips of coffee while waiting for the process to complete? I am platform agnostic and not a AMD "fanboy", but I can't ignore what amounts to a huge difference in $$$ between Intel and AMD CPUs. I am also thankful that the applications I work with use Unix or Linux which are Free and Open operating systems, but that is another debate.