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Judge Says Video Games "Not a Defense" for Parents' Murder

#21 User is offline   profio Icon

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 12:06 PM

Im completely with you on the fact that he should die. But where you said

'If you don't want your kids to play these games or listen to that type of music, be a parent and don't let them!!!'

...i meant to say its just not that simple. he parents did try to take it away from him like you stated they should...and they got killed for it. At least you have the death penalty in the US. I believe a 'Life for a Life' would make society so much better in the UK. no?
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 12:12 PM

Forgive me if I'm butting in, but I would say that they had serious training problems long before they took the game from him.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 12:16 PM

Guilty.

Wow, finally something most of PCWorld's community can agree on: on with capitol punishment.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 12:34 PM

Well if he was willing to do something like this, it proves that his parents never truly raised him right, I had plenty of fights with my parents, and when I was young I got a good butt whipping. This put me back into my place. I never for once ever thought about killing them because they took a game away from me or punished me. His parents should have been parents and took more assertiveness on the situation as he grew up. This had to have been more then over just one little video game, but thats how the lawyers want to see it and blame the game for his violence.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 12:41 PM

How'd the kid get the gun in the first place? Was the gun hiding in the house, perhaps, UNPROTECTED, or did the kid go to a gun shop and buy it?




I blame the parents for being stupid, if the gun was not properly locked up. I don't blame gun shops because they require a license in some states before purchasing a gun. You also must be a certain age before PURCHASING a gun.







Next, great job kid. You shot your parents. Now you get to live for the rest of your life KNOWING that you killed your parents over your incident.

But, I wouldn't be too harsh on him. He has to deal with a judge that says "the video game is not a defense" for parents murder. Good luck getting out of this.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 12:50 PM

Hey techie the gun was locked up in the safe along with the game. So the kid new where to look, but somehow he found out the combination to the safe? The parents should have changed the safe code, so that way the kid would never have known the combo.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 01:32 PM

Why should you have to lock up your gun for a 16 year old?
You can legally hunt at age 12. Obviously this spoiled little brat did not get his way boo hoo for him, I wish him well in his new home (sarcasm) With his new butt buddies (more sarcasm) I am sure someone will teach him what respect means in prison, if not respect than fear.
Never blame an inanimate object for the actions of a mentally deranged person.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 01:42 PM

I do beleive in locking up your guns. I don't care how old the youngest person is in a house hold, I still make sure that my guns are secured. Gun saftey is no joke, and should be looked at as a serious matter!

But yes I hope him the best of luck for he chose his path in life! Remember do NOT drop the soap!!! hahahahhahahahaa
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 02:15 PM

Sorry, I must respectfully disagree with you on locking up your guns.
Yes sure if you have some nice pieces that you want to keep from being stolen, but your everyday carry...no. Teach your children about guns and respect and you will have no problems with either. If all your guns are locked up, how would you protect yourself in case of a home invasion?
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 07:17 PM

so basically your blaming the parents not the kid for his actions....??? many aspects of this can be debated. but i agree with one of the replys (cannot remember who said it) that capital punishment would make society better. Someone would not take a life if they knew theirs would be taken in turn. Just a shame to be honest that society can be so messed up that this would happen.....




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Posted 19 January 2009 - 07:40 PM

SWIFT capital punishment would make society better, if only for getting rid of the violent retards that otherwise get paroled after a few yeard for murder and mayhem.

It's no deterrent. Just ask a suicide bomber.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 07:57 PM

I do blame the parents a little since it seems like they didn't take the actions they should have when he was younger. He probably always got his way and would through hissy fits to get it. And this is a big hissy fit that he did and showed his parents what he was like. I'm just saying with more groundings and puting the kids into place when they are young will prevent things like this from happening. I have seen some kids and how they treat there parents, and if I was that kids parent he would be getting an a$$ whipping from me. I just hate that they always try and use the idea that it was a games fault or music's fault that a tragic event happend. You take responsibility for your own action and deal with it.
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 04:47 AM

Hi RNR.





In all respect, do you really think that 16 year old is going to behave the same with a gun? The fact is that if the gun had been in a safe place, this could have been PREVENTED.




You ask: "Why should you have to lock up your gun for a 16 year old"?

Why would I want to keep a gun Unlocked? Guns aren't toys and can be extremely destructive when used in the wrong hands for the wrong reasons. I would have my gun locked up from a twenty-two year old if this were my environment. Gun safety is always Number One regardless of how smart/old you are.
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 04:53 AM

I guess I missed something in the article. ASrock has informed me that the gun WAS in safe place.
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 05:04 AM

profio said:

so basically your blaming the parents not the kid for his actions....??? many aspects of this can be debated. but i agree with one of the replys (cannot remember who said it) that capital punishment would make society better. Someone would not take a life if they knew theirs would be taken in turn. Just a shame to be honest that society can be so messed up that this would happen.....




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In a way, I would blame the parents to. Your children ARE who you raise them up to be. If you raise them as spoiled rotten bratts, they'll be spoiled people killing people or threatening people to ALWAYS get what they want in their adult life's. They'll be like this because they weren't raised as goody goody tew-shu's. They won't know how to be nice.
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 05:08 AM

I have never understand prison. Why would you want to keep people that don't hesitate to kill others just for their own benefits alive so they can have a chance to escape and resume their acts? While you're wasting good tax money which can be used to educate kids from actually doing these things? The judge should be more firm in giving out capital punishment.
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 05:20 AM

Hi Trandoanhung1991.

But the point for Prison is to teach you never to do wrong again. Once a person has gone to, and in such case, this Kid killed his parents, there's no telling what they'll try doing the next time they get angry or don't get what they want.



In a choice you have a consequence. In America, you're against the Law when you kill people.
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 06:16 AM

I don't truely believe in the prison system myself. Most prisoners are drug dealers and what not. This is not what I want to put my tax payer money too. Its good to get them off the streets, but why should I have to pay for their crimes. Now killing someone is different but still I do not want to put my tax payer money into trying to help these people who made the wrong decisions in life. Yes people can change, but studies show that like 90% wont and will go back to their old ways.This means they will just end up back in prison!
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 06:54 AM

Yes. I do know what prisons are for. I'm mainly talking about people that have sentences of 30+ years up to life sentence. Most of them committed serious crimes and/or repeated offenders. Do you really believe that many of them will actually change? I personally don't. I know that maybe some will. But maybe is not certain enough. Besides, with a sentence on your portfolio, it is almost certain you'll get a hard life and might seek crime as a way out. Just my 2 cents.
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 08:18 AM

Prison is a bad idea for a number of reasons. It lets a murderer live, it costs us money, it has an amazing return rate so it's not that effective. I'm against it in all case except when they need to hold someone for trial or something similar. It should be temporary not a solution.
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