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It could be the burner or the media. I have had burners in the past that had trouble switching to the second layer, and I have had cheap media (yes hp qualifies as cheap) that is keeping it from working. I know use only the Plextor 716a, with verbatim media (or tdk sometimes) and do not have an issue with dual layer.Yes nero supports it, yes it works...
It is allways frustrating though when things don't work correctly.
XP Holdouts Remain a Hurdle for Windows 7
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 02:28 PM
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I am withdrawing my comment due to the uncivilized response it got. I personally am holding out for Windows 7 because whether I upgrade to Vista or Windows 7, I will need to replace rather than upgrade my current Windows XP Professional Laptop. That is all I really need to say here.
I am withdrawing my comment due to the uncivilized response it got. I personally am holding out for Windows 7 because whether I upgrade to Vista or Windows 7, I will need to replace rather than upgrade my current Windows XP Professional Laptop. That is all I really need to say here.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 11:31 PM
Could you please let me know what video card does not work in XP? I would like to ensure that I avoid it... as of yet ever card I have touched (8 series, and 9 series Nvidia, 3 and 4 series ati) have all worked in XP....
Most of the drivers that will be a problem in the future are drivers that had radical changes, like souncards and printers. They changed the entire sound layer, and how it operates... same with the printers...
Most of the drivers that will be a problem in the future are drivers that had radical changes, like souncards and printers. They changed the entire sound layer, and how it operates... same with the printers...
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Posted 18 January 2009 - 07:14 PM
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I have 2 SLI rigs in the house.
1. Intel C2Q 9450 @3.66ghz, 4GB Corsair XMS2, 4 harddrives,2 dvd burners, PC P&C 750 Silencer, and 2x 8800GT SLI
2. Intel C2Q 9450 (stock), 8GB Mushkin Extreme, 3 harddrives, 2 dvd burners, Antec 1000, and 3x 8800GTX SLI
machine 1 runs Windows XP X64 - for stability and compatability with older games. I have run 3 different Nvidia drivers on here, all the SLI'd the FIRST TIME.
Machine 2 run Vista x64 and is used for animation rendering. ALSO SLI'd first time
Not much of a gamer? Bet your daddy bought your parts and when you couldn't figure out how to make windows work for you, you said "But daddy, everyone is using Vista now, so they can use SLI"
DirectX 10 is a joke. It did nothing to enhance games on the Rendering rig, and thus I skipped Vista on the gamming rig. Sorry buddy, but you are a fool to judge people that way based on thier choice of Operating Systems.
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Oh yeah, DX10 does not work under XP because MS wanted to FORCE you to upgrade to Vista....try to make dx10 work.... just funny....
Edited by MPHEnterprises - No Personal Attacks.
I have 2 SLI rigs in the house.
1. Intel C2Q 9450 @3.66ghz, 4GB Corsair XMS2, 4 harddrives,2 dvd burners, PC P&C 750 Silencer, and 2x 8800GT SLI
2. Intel C2Q 9450 (stock), 8GB Mushkin Extreme, 3 harddrives, 2 dvd burners, Antec 1000, and 3x 8800GTX SLI
machine 1 runs Windows XP X64 - for stability and compatability with older games. I have run 3 different Nvidia drivers on here, all the SLI'd the FIRST TIME.
Machine 2 run Vista x64 and is used for animation rendering. ALSO SLI'd first time
Not much of a gamer? Bet your daddy bought your parts and when you couldn't figure out how to make windows work for you, you said "But daddy, everyone is using Vista now, so they can use SLI"
DirectX 10 is a joke. It did nothing to enhance games on the Rendering rig, and thus I skipped Vista on the gamming rig. Sorry buddy, but you are a fool to judge people that way based on thier choice of Operating Systems.
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Oh yeah, DX10 does not work under XP because MS wanted to FORCE you to upgrade to Vista....try to make dx10 work.... just funny....
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Posted 18 January 2009 - 09:26 PM
Okay gentlemen. Again, can we please bring this discussion back to a more civil tone and back to the original topic, holdout issues for Windows 7.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 12:08 AM
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I should not have said that XP Apps will not run in Vista. What I meant was that if you try to downgrade a computer which is Vista optimized, the drivers and other software are not necessarily going to be available to run Windows XP, not to mention possible hardware incompatibilities. And to those who call me a moron, I have been working with computers and Windows software since the days of DOS 6 and Windows 95, FYI.
I should not have said that XP Apps will not run in Vista. What I meant was that if you try to downgrade a computer which is Vista optimized, the drivers and other software are not necessarily going to be available to run Windows XP, not to mention possible hardware incompatibilities. And to those who call me a moron, I have been working with computers and Windows software since the days of DOS 6 and Windows 95, FYI.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 05:12 AM
No problem at all rcprimak. You are correct. Downgrading from one Operating System to another is, in my opinion, not a good idea. As for the holdout issue, there will come a time when people will have no choice but to upgrade to a new Operating System or switch to a completely different system (Linux or Mac).
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 05:29 AM
After a few days with Win7 build 7000 I can say that I don't like it better than XP. I am sure that Registry hacks will be developed (and some already have been) to provide flexibility, but XP offers most of the customizations I want through the UI.
I have already modified the Win7 Registry to include Copy to... and Move to.. to the context menu. That should have been done by default. The Taskbar is still quite 'buggy.' One would think that after all this time it would have been stabilized. I find it necessary to reconfigure the 'hide' settings after each boot. The 'folders' do not have a toolbar with control buttons. This makes it much harder to accomplish tasks.
Like Vista, much of the UI is 'eye candy.' I have turned off almost all special effects, and now it is much quicker on this older hardware. (Dell lattitude D600/1.6/1024/Radeon9000) controlling Display Properties is considerably more complex, but applying changes is much smoother and faster.
Bottom line- If you like Vista, you'll love W7. But if you are any type of XP 'power user,' I believe you'll find Win7 even more frustrating than Vista.
I have already modified the Win7 Registry to include Copy to... and Move to.. to the context menu. That should have been done by default. The Taskbar is still quite 'buggy.' One would think that after all this time it would have been stabilized. I find it necessary to reconfigure the 'hide' settings after each boot. The 'folders' do not have a toolbar with control buttons. This makes it much harder to accomplish tasks.
Like Vista, much of the UI is 'eye candy.' I have turned off almost all special effects, and now it is much quicker on this older hardware. (Dell lattitude D600/1.6/1024/Radeon9000) controlling Display Properties is considerably more complex, but applying changes is much smoother and faster.
Bottom line- If you like Vista, you'll love W7. But if you are any type of XP 'power user,' I believe you'll find Win7 even more frustrating than Vista.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 10:46 AM
ok, I understand that the optimizations may not exist - or in some cases, extremely unusal hardware may not be supported. My laptop for example has a bunch of hotkeys on a touch sensitive bar at the top, and for some reason drivers ONLY exist for Vista/Vista64. These are needed for the wireless card to work in XP (as it defaults to turning the radio off) and took some time to figure out that it was the issue. I can live without the hotkeys, I cannot live without working wireless.
Some machines, those using normal hardware, will run anything you throw at on XP. Video cards, tuners, sound cards, harddrives, Burners, you name it, it works. Hell you can even watch blu-ray movies there if you can get past all the DRM. Sadly - I use Vista just because of me bluray drive... Well, now I am using 7 on the laptop, but that is neither here nor there.
One question for all, If windows Vista had been built correctly, Then how could the get 7 to run so much better? I have been using 7 now for a several days, and I am impressed at how well it runs on the laptop. Much MUCH better than vista.
Oh yea, and BTW - my first machine there chief, was a Kaypro 8088 running Dos 2.11 and when I got a harddrive, 3.2 with Geoworks for the window manager.... years ahead of MS... but another one that MS managed to bully to near extinction.
Some machines, those using normal hardware, will run anything you throw at on XP. Video cards, tuners, sound cards, harddrives, Burners, you name it, it works. Hell you can even watch blu-ray movies there if you can get past all the DRM. Sadly - I use Vista just because of me bluray drive... Well, now I am using 7 on the laptop, but that is neither here nor there.
One question for all, If windows Vista had been built correctly, Then how could the get 7 to run so much better? I have been using 7 now for a several days, and I am impressed at how well it runs on the laptop. Much MUCH better than vista.
Oh yea, and BTW - my first machine there chief, was a Kaypro 8088 running Dos 2.11 and when I got a harddrive, 3.2 with Geoworks for the window manager.... years ahead of MS... but another one that MS managed to bully to near extinction.
