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Posted 17 January 2009 - 01:35 PM

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Posted 17 January 2009 - 01:49 PM

Sure they should do something about it. Have the people who own the music sue the people who steal the music. What does the ISP have to do with it any more than the company that made the jeans the thief is wearing?
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 02:10 PM

We all know that if you have access to the Internet, it takes 2 minutes to perform a google search, download bittorrent and begin downloading whatever.


In a last article that I read, ISP's were thinking (attempting at least) about limiting bandwidth completely due to users in their lines accessing content that wasn't lawfully THEIRS.

You KNOW that downloading music is illegal if you haven't purchased it. But does that stop people from doing something that's protected by Law? They won't catch me, so I'll continue doing it.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 03:56 PM

I didn't do it ... my 90 years old grand pa did it ... send him to jail ... wait ... nope ... my dog did it ... and he also ate my homework.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 04:30 PM

Most music downloaded illegally would NOT have led to purchases if it were not downloaded illegally... so frankly this study has no useful information to share. The recording industry refuses to come to the realization that proliferation of illegally copied digital files does not linearly correlate to losses for the industry. Until they do, they will not have the vision and realistic viewpoint necessary to INNOVATE in the market and move forward in a digital age.
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Posted 18 January 2009 - 09:14 AM

So if I download music legally and pay for it, I get all this DRM hassle. On the other hand, if I download music illegally I don't have to pay and have no DRM. Hmmm, what to do, what to do?
BTW where did they get these figures? 95% illegal downloads, yeah right. why not 99% or 10%. Can they backup these numbers (which I doubt) or did they guesstimate them acuratly?
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Posted 18 January 2009 - 09:51 AM

lol
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Posted 18 January 2009 - 12:32 PM

Most music sites no longer use DRM like Amazon, Napster, Walmart, iTunes.

I get all my MP3's at Amazon, I don't download illegal music.

If you don't want to pay for MP3's use a site like Spiralfrog it has a lot of the tops hits, Or download free legal CC MP3's at site's like Frostclick. Or music.download.com
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Posted 18 January 2009 - 02:55 PM

I grew up trading cassette tapes with my friends -- usually the content was stuff that I had no intention of buying in the first place but I wanted to see for myself what it was my friends saw in it.

There was (perhaps still is) a law passed which taxed blank recordable media as a sort of "remedy" for what the recording industries deemed as "blatant thievery."

Regardless, I've purchased the same music many times in various formats (LPs, cassettes, CDs and now MP3s).

I've never once purchased music with DRM and never will. I don't listen to the radio these days and find new music to purchase in various ways, but never by listening to a 30-second clip.

Read between the lines and you will find your anwer.

Bottom line -- having the IFPI/RIAA involved in forcing ISPs to become their private police force is of great concern. The "doing nothing is not an option" statement of the IFPI when speaking of the ISPs just shows how out of touch they are. The ISPs can do no more to stop illicit files from being shared today than the sellers of recording technology could do in the days of cassette tapes. All they will accomplish is the creation of new file-sharing technology which will further defy the ability of the IFPI/RIAA and your ISP from knowing the content of your bitstreams. Maybe that'a a good thing and maybe it's not -- but it is inevitable and they can only have themselves to blame when that happens.

And it will.
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Posted 18 January 2009 - 07:39 PM

Dude..... most of the studies that these retards do are based on like a small community or some random numbers that some ISPs threw together to get them off their backs.... oh ya and they think that by putting all these restrictions on music and such is going to stop us???? Really.... when it saves me money and the hassle of putting up with the copyright crap just to put the music on my ZUNE?? Ok..... I would rather download it ilegally and get around the hassle than to download it and pay for it... and have to put up with their crap... and they think they will be able to stop it.... a couple of rules for technology.

1. If it concerns data, computers, internet and such.... it is hackable.... so they can not block it without just taking the music completely off the internet...

2. We will always find someway around the bull crap... they should just give it up and legalize it... they will never win... in this lifetime!
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Posted 18 January 2009 - 07:47 PM

Exactly!
They throw around numbers that are mostly pulled out of their *.

But just for the heck of it, here's a nice article:

torrentfreak.com/music-piracy-not-that-bad-industry-says-090118/
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Posted 18 January 2009 - 08:20 PM

Wow, I don't download music but I do copy streams. With a sound card I can save streams from any source. However, I must listen to it while recording it. Many broadcast stations also stream their content online. Some require a downloaded file to interpret the stream, but if it comes out my speakers, I can copy it. The format in which I save it is my choice. Almost all of what I save is single cuts from albums. Most is classic rock, some easy rock and some smooth jazz. Like the old FCC rules that state anything broadcast is free to be taped or otherwise recorded. Those broadcasting (or Streaming) are paying a fee to do so, so at least it's not stealing.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 12:32 AM

Hey md.....


Your right, come to think of it! If music is being broadcasted over the air it is ruled out of court to be free and open to the public. Meaning of Free= No cost, openly available, or in simple means.... NO COPYRIGHT! So where is it you say you got that thing, or is there a program for us that dont have the fancy sound card? Let us know.... this could truly be an opening to a new way of getting around "The Big MAN" AKA US GOVERNMENT! PM me the info I requested .


Thanks,


Jordan



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Posted 19 January 2009 - 06:26 PM

Anyone downloading music without paying for it is a thief and is in the wrong, no matter how they may try to justify thier actions.

On the other hand, the current economic method of compensating musicians is itself legalized thievery. For someone to get paid over and over and over in perpetuity for a few hours of work is criminal. Of course, there are very few musicans who agree with this. And I would guess that once the green starts flowing, most of those artists (including myself if I was in that position) would quckly compose thier own justifications for taking the moolah.

What we have are thieves stealing form thieves.

We shouldn't be wasting time commenting about illegal downloading. We should instead focus on the character of the people who have allowed such situations to exist and and those who allow it to continue.

The true character of a person is revealed when they do the right thing when thet can get away with doing the wrong thing.

And poor character is running rampant out there!
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 06:35 PM

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