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[ats0j8]

I have owned several Powerbooks, iMacs, and Apple desktop computers, and I have dealt with this: by switching away from Apple. I'm now using Ubuntu on my desktop, laptop, and netbook, and Android on my phone, and I'm happy.
Apple's range of hardware and software is just too limited for my taste, and it's nowhere near as good as Apple marketing claims it is.

[Fretless]

Ok, not really sure what ats0j8's point is...
Anyway I have to admit, I get suckered into those rumors myself. I've had an iPhone since it first came out (the First Gen seems so antiquated now), and remember the buzz that fall about an iPhone Nano coming out in time for Xmas '07. I remember also taking it seriously at the time and never seeing it materialize. So it all truly could be hype to give bloggers something to write about and analysts something to justify their paycheck.
But there remains the little conspiracy theorist inside my head that is whispering, "maybe Jobs, et al. is playing with us so if the iPhone Nano/Netbook/iMac-toaster-oven-treadmill does appear, the hype machine will have sufficiently greased the marketing madness."
And yes, I really do have a little conspiracy theorist inside my head. I'm seeing a doctor about it...

[tedleski]

I made the move away from apple in a big way. I used to be die hard mac man but then I had to cut costs big time. I mean I needed smaller faster technology that was just as capable out of the box as most work horse machines that churn out video, and animation with seamless efficient streaming internet access.





netbooks filled the bill. so I switched the entire office over and saved a bundle. Our margins are not large enough to sustain apples crippled overpriced models anymore.


Granted they are waay cooler to look at but the cost/tech advantage offered by netbooks far outweighs anything apple has to offer in this economy.


Its all about the bottom line and that is getting really really tight.


Another thing I really like about the netbooks (which are coming even farther down in price, while the power goes up) is that they are no larger than a first edition hard cover novel. I needed a mobile device that was bigger than the ipod and smaller than a note book. I needed it and aparently so do many others at this time.





Netbooks are it and they are getting better.


It would, perhaps be a smart move on apples part to leverage something in this area that would be attractive to cash strapped consumers who must meet tighter bottom lines in freeelance work, and small corporate circles as well.





--ted





Another thing we did was ditch our voice service bills. Because we found out we were actually paying double when all we had to use was VOIP. Better rates Better timing.

[LeeZ]

After almost 20 years selling against Apple I became a convert six years ago.
I tossed multiple Windows machines and replaced them all with Apple products. They may appear overpriced but both in business and in personal life I discovered Apple software, hardware and support is on target and produces value.
Variety is not the issue reliability and functionality is the goal. Actual lifecycle costs are lower with Apple than $500 laptops.

[mlight1]

I'm glad there will be no iPhone Nano! I couldn't imagine trying to do the everyday stuff on anything smaller than the current iPhone. I love Apple products but part of the thing that keeps me wanting more is that they always have a very creative approach to all their products.

In my opinion I think we should let Apple decide what the "next big thing" will be instead of trying to build up the hype. They gave us iPod and iPhone, they're good at what they do.

[cg0def]

[tedleski:|~194222]

I find it very hard to believe anything that you say. No appple user will ever say that the Apple products limit you because this is simply not the case. The general perception of non mac users is that the line up is very restrictive but this is hardly the case. Why would you care that there are faster components available when your applications run fast and you are happy with the performance?

Also noone needed netbooks. They still suck and I fail to see how a netbook is not restrictive for you when you find Apple's products restrictive. Also a netbook contrary to popular belief is actually the most expensive portable computer that you can get if you look at price vs. performance comparison. Also there is virtualy no situation that a 10" netbook is better than a 13" macbook regardless of the OS difference.

If you are really having financial problems and for some reason you're stuck with 5+ year old Apple hardware I have a simple proposition. Keep your older version software! Noone is forcing you to upgrade. As long as your software does everything you want it to at a reasonable speed there is no pressure to upgrade. Of course this is hardly the case with windows because there is always something that you dislike and something that MS will gladly promice to fix in the next release.



And as far as the article goes ... who cares about speculations. Most reasonable people know very well that an Apple netbook will never appear and neither will iPhone nano. It's a stupid idea and will only serve as to fragment the market.

[rkinne01]

I think this is the very reason while myself and many others don't move to Apple, they don't seem to care what customers want. Whether you like netbooks or not they are still the hottest selling PC's right now, for Apple to not jump into this market is foolish. Netbooks could expose customers to Apple for the very first time which could lead to future upgrades or purchases. Steve Jobs is only concerned with what he wants and to hell with what the public wants. No wonder they're unable to gain market share on Microsoft.

[technicaljedi721]

I seriously believe Apple is living off of borrowed time. As the economic conditions worsen, Apple's business model will backfire on them. People cannot continue spend over a grand for their overpriced hardware. As credit gets worse, big banks like Citibank and Bank of America falter, people will find it damn hard to pay the "Apple Tax."

Eventually this decision to cater to the sub $500 audience will come back to haunt them. You can make a high quality system for under $500, because guys on the Windows side have beeing doing so for the last 5 years. Apple admitting they can't is saying that Windows users are both superior and frugal with their money.

Steve Jobs needs to tread carefully. To me, this looks like the same hubris and mistakes he made at the end of the 1980's that got him fired in the first place. The hottest segment of the business and you're going to ignore the golden rule of business? The Customer is ALWAYS right! Well, I just hope either the market conditions or the customers smarten up and force Apple to come off their high horse.

[PopExpo]

get over yourselves. netbooks are the hottest pc right now but if you wanna do something other than check email and surf the web, your pretty much screwed. to all you people who think Apple ( or for that matter Windows) suck.....lets see you try to design a better computer company before you run your mouth.

[TechieXP]

The reason the Apple fans have to drull over fantasy hardware is maybe they arn't happy with what they have. Keeping the dream alive by nothing more then shear will, vs reality is always very pleasing to your own senses.
I think Apple for one doesn't feel it benefits them to compete in every market, just bec Windows based PC's are in several markets.
Netbooks even though cool just don't offer the experience a full sized latop offers. And trying to port pc abilities to phones really is more dumb, beyond games. Ever try to really view a Word document on a phone? Sure a business man needs that to some degree, but what about the rest of us?
Sony's UX series Micro pc is a fully functioning computer that is small, fits in your pocket and provide everything a netbook does. Only its price is hefty.
And iphone is already small. Make it a nano and you lose all of its cool capabilities. The smaller the package the limitations get bigger. it isn't even practical. When what you have works perfect, why break it with crazy concepts.

[rags2riches]

May 19th, 2006



At 7:30/8:00 interviewer asks Mr. Jobs:

"Last question. I have an iPod shuffle and I am very curious and eager to know when I might be able to buy an iPhone. Can you tell me when that will be available?"

Jobs: "You know, we never talk about unannounced products so if we ever do announce something like that I'd love to talk to you about it then."

8 months later, Jan 9th, 2007, Apple announces the iPhone at MacWorld in San Francisco.

Same thing could happen ... we hope to prove you wrong.

[TCO45415]

So, Apple can't build a Netbook???
Question #1: What chipsets are used in about 90% of the current netbooks?
Answer: Intel's 945G/ICH7/GMA950.
Question #2: What chipsets come in the Mac Mini?
Answer: Intel's 945GC/ICH7/GMA950.
OSx86 has already been installed and benchmarked, on Acer, Asus, HP, and MSI netbooks.
Perhaps tech writers should do more research before attacking thier (more knowledgable)readers.

[rags2riches]

Apple's customer base are predominately the affluent tier who do not want to be bothered with technicalities. This market segment is only 5% of the market which Apple is happy with. It is also the segment that is least resistant to recessions. You seem to have a lot of advice for Steve Jobs. What ... exactly ... have you accomplished other than preserving your anonymity on the Internet?

[TCO45415]

One points out that Apple already uses the required netbook components, and somehow they are advising Steve Jobs, to become famous.
What color is the sky in your imaginary little world?
If I was to advise Job's, I would tell him to return the "Classic" Mac OS applications menu.
Also, as a long time registered Apple Developer, I don't need a flawed description of Apples market and users, thank you.