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[Patruns]

Sure, I would consider a Dell phone if they sold unlocked GSM quad band phones and didn't restrict the installation of 3rd party applications. Of course, it would have to perform well and look really cool! B-)

[perspectoff]

Google, Microsoft, and Dell -- three American companies cooperating to make American products.
I like it.

[jimtwest3]

We need handheld devices with VOIP that connect direct to the internet with WiMax. The current cell phone technology with it's complex and expensive method of connecting to the internet is archaic and obsolete technology. The U.S. is faling behind the world in handheld technology. Direct handheld device connection with the internet is possible and state of the art. 3G is old technology, slow, and very expensive technology. Direct handheld connection devices on the internet would open up a variety of opportunities at a fraction of the cost of today's cell phones.

[Sadoul]

oh boy! americans working together for american parts?!?!? with shitty 3rd world country tech support. Dell has the WORST support for their items. They just had some huge court payouts because they were ripping people off and lying to them about service plans.

So when your new phone is made with all the special defects that Dell has because they use the cheapest parts known to man, you will probably get routed to some indian dude that will just keep asking you to reboot your phone till it works properly.....

Enjoy that headache!

[ChaosEvoker]

First, being able to choose my own carrier would be great.
Customization and a decent price would be next.

[asusean2002]

Wow, lame name, almost worst than Palm's Pre. Copy away Dell, we all know there has been zero innovation coming out of your headquarters in Calcutta these days. Pardon me, your call-center headquarters. I wonder if the Dud-Phone (my nickname for dell's MePhone) will come with a 1-touch app for direct connection with their operators standing by in India.
Why don't these companies realize that copying the latest and greatest isn't the best strategy - it's innovation that breeds success. Tell me, who did Apple copy with the iPhone? If you decide to copy something or imitate it, your iteration better far and away exceed the predecessor otherwise you just look foolish, i.e. BBerry Storm, LG Dare, etc. But, best of luck!
Jealousy is a sickness - get well soon.

[HellfireJack]

Man.. the first hardware based MP3 player was the MPMan.. followed by Diamond RIO.. Apple wasn't first by a long shot. And since neither of those forced you to install itunes or pummelled you into submission with DRM bs I guess it was actually a step back on the MP3 player front.

All you need for success in this world is mediocrity and a lot of hype to get the sheeple to follow your lead.. Dell, Google and Microsoft all know how to do that I think...

[Samson99]

Cell phones have all these great features but still have awkward interfaces to us, the users. I mean the keypads, especially in vertical form factors where you need a tweezers to type on on QWERTY keypad. Delta II keypads (ChicagoLogic.com) are a great solution that don't require disambiguation software because there's one key for each letter in a familiar QWERTY-like layout. You can prove it to yourself in the "Try It Now" tab on that website. I don't understand why the phone manufacturers and service providers don't jump all over it. When they do, people like myself will start texting and doing other forms of text entry.
I guess Apple has to do it 1st and they'll all scramble to copy it!

[asusean2002]

So with ChicagoLogic's magic keyboard taking up the full screen of the iPhone, where do you get to read what you typed? I'm referencing the picture of an iPhone they have on they website with their keyboard shown on it. Personally, it's an interesting concept, but it's not a true qwerty keyboard, this having to relearn where each key is.

Yeah, keep piling on the hatred towards Apple and their loyal customer base. I mean, Apple hasn't done anything to advance the personal computing market, digital media downloads, the smartphone market, etc. And the iPhone is just a dressed-up toy sporting technology from the 80s, not even worth buying. I mean, it's only outsold EVERY smartphone bearing a Palm or Motorolla logo. And those were the smartphone giants of yesteryear. Yeah, Apple doesn't know what they're doing and their products suck. Man, I forgot why I even bought this iPhone to begin with. Oh yeah, cause it was popular and everyone else was doing it.

Give me a break. Apple has reached the popularity they have because of device integration. No one else even comes close on any front. And I love how people are proclaiming they're going to be different and rush out and buy the Palm Pre or "insert next iPhone challenger here" model-got news for you, buying something cause it's not Apple is just the same as buying something cause it's not Apple, you're still a sheep.

An enough articles about a "new iPhone challenger". Nothing has even come close yet, and probably won't for some time as these companies lay off workers and curb R&D spending. Hope you all get sore necks from looking up at the iPhone.

[Samson99]

To answer the 1st question, you read what you typed right above the keypad as shown on the referenced iPhone picture. If there's more to see when you're done typing the keypad can be minimized - remember it's on a screen. My preference, though, would be a flip phone with a physical Delta II keypad below a touch screen display - The best of all worlds.
As far as relearning, you have to try it to see how easy it is to learn. It's much easier than you might think because of how our motor reflexes are programmed.
If you think I was being critical of Apple I totally miscommunicated. I was complimenting Apple as the only innovator and everyone else as copy cats.

[HellfireJack]

I made no claims of buying anything my sheepish little friend.. I pointed out that the IPod was not an orignal idea from Apple. And that it was not exceedingly better than the competition. Something you mistakenly claimed in your post.

I don't hate Apple. It's their annoying fanboys who claim Apple is ahead of the entire game everywhere and will be forever.. Good lord fanboys.. give it up already. Apple makes ok products... no need to force everyone to bow and worship Steve Jobs because of it..

Its the best selling smartphone today.. YAY!!!!! Well lets be honest... its the best selling smartphone in the US today. Not so globally. And looking at mobile devices in general its still trounced by the RAZR.. But, I'm glad it hit a high point in a niche market. That's awesome. Congratulations. You bought a piece of technology that America likes. WOO!! Go you.

You're actually claiming a lack in R&D under an article about the release of two new phones though. You think there was no R&D in that venture? I see.... Nothing better has been put out in the.... what? 18 monhs? since the release of the IPhone? My my... that does put an end to anyone ever putting out a better smartphone doesn't it... Can you say BAH BAH? I know you can...

[bperetto]

Open/unlocked. I don't want to switch carriers just to use a particular phone. Why don't companies understand that?

Phone features:
Expandable storage (pref SDHC)
At least 3MP camera
WiFi
REAL qwerty keyboard- hardware based
Downloadable Apps.

That's not a lot to ask for, but it prevents carriers from nickle and diming you on things. But hey- I'm willing to pay a few bucks for the apps.

[asusean2002]

Yeah, the iPod wasn't Apple's original idea. Yet I see no company that had access to this technology execute a product as well as Apple executed the iPod. The proof is in the sales figures. The same is true of the iPhone - technology that wasn't 'original' yet executed more successfully than any one else who tried.

I may be a fanboy, but I never claimed Apple would dominate the world now and forever. You actually brought up the RAZR, hilarious. I was referring to smartphones, and clearly stated so in my post. The RAZR is the furthest thing from a smartphone. What astonishes me even further though, is despite the fact we've never met, you know my exact reasons for purchasing the iPhone! That's amazing! Tell me, is that an app you can by in RIM's app store?

I'm sorry, what country do you live in? Personally, I really care more about what goes on in my homeland than abroad. I personally could care less what smartphone the Chinese are using. There are far less restrictions on plans, devices, etc abroad so customes can literally put any device that's compatible on any network they choose. That has to do something to affect sales, don't you think?

Yes, there was R&D in the venture to produce two phones for the February show, so what? Obviously, you don't understand how corporations work seeing as any R&D that was done on those phones was logged to the Q4 '08 budgets not the Q1 '09 budgets we're currently held to. And I said the R&D would be curbed, seeing as these companies are not making the profits they once were. They just can't afford to take big risks, and like it or not, trying to outdo the iPhone is a big risk. Just ask RIM.

Man, it must be hard to read all this text on a screen that you can't tap to zoom in on, no wonder you're response to my post is so off. Enjoy playing with your trackball.

[asusean2002]

No, I didn't mean it as a direct response to your post, only as a pre-emptive post for people like HellFireJack who seem to know all the answers, always buy the hands down best product available, and never do anything because someone else does it.


Just sick of listening to baseless claims of how people who buy Apple products are stupid, etc. Jealousy and sour grapes make for one stinky cologne.


Maybe once Windows 7 comes out it will give these people something to puff their chests out about. That is, until SP1 for 7 is released...hahaha.

[asusean2002]

The companies do understand it, it's just, why would they want to change unless forced to by the FCC? They make boatloads of money, and get upfront dollars from device manufacturers wanting to sell their devices exclusively with a provider. It's a win for everyone involved but the consumer - yet, until sales figures diminsh to a point where these companies lose profits, they'll continue on the status quo. I hate it, especially since this is the "land of the free" yet our wireless plans are the most restricted in the world!

That would be a sweet phone if someone could make it and make it all work together nicely and sell it for around 200 bucks.

[HellfireJack]

Umm.. Compaq's MP3 player was actually better hardware wise. You might want to research the reality of the things you type rather than producing your opinion and claiming it as fact.

I brought up the RAZR specifically to point out that not everyone has need of a smartphone. I also pointed out that I was talking about mobile devices in general. As I pointed out Apples smartphone sales record was a US thing. This does not change the facts. US-centric or not. Nice spin though.. do you fancy yourself a marketting genius? Sorry to rain on your apple parade and look at the big picture rather than the fanboy preffered close minded data set... Being the top phone on sale in the US is great though. I said so.. remember.. You bought one.. YAY!

See now.. are you positive where and when Google, Dell and Microsoft account for their budgetting? Have you been in on those companies meetings about the future of their companies? I didn't realize you were a corporate consultant for the three.. Or again are you typing your opinion and claiming it as (extremely far fetched) fact? You can't possibly try to tell us you know what each company will do with their future budgets.. haha good one though..

It's really not hard to read this at all.. I don't have to tap my screen or zoom at all.. This computer has a mouse and keyboard. Did you have to sell your real computer to buy your IPhone? Poor guy.. that sucks.. If you need a handout or something let us know... we'll set up a charity account for you and the other poor fanboys at paypal. I guess its that kinda flawed OCD logic that lead you to buy an IPhone in the first place... You should probably stick with Apple gear. Steve Jobs is a good sheep herder I hear.. It must really suck having to peck at those little pictures of letters and reading webpages on a 3.5" screen as compared to my 24" computer monitor. Typical Apple fanboy.. not understanding what technology to use or when to use it..

Any other opinions you'd like to tell us are facts? or are you done?

[HellfireJack]

Nobody said anything about Apple until you chimed in friend.. and honestly I know Apple users who aren't stupid. I myself used a Mac for couple of years. (Before they went and cheapened themselves with the iMac) My remarks are about fanboys who have to bring up Apple somehow being superior every chance they get. Don't blame me if you lump yourself in as a fanboy. Thats your problem.

My home computer runs Ubuntu linux by the way.. Thats not Microsoft (in case you didn't realize it) so no need for a service pack.. I think its you who harbours the sour grapes and jealousy if you ask me... Its hard to get out from under MS's shadow without knowing something about computers.. isn't it?

[BimmerJam]

No well executed maketing plans is what you mean. The ipod was and is actually the least capable music device (IMHO) made at the time and to this day it still is. Which was better you ask? Try the Rio riot. Built in 20 gb hard drive and a radio with station guides. (DRM though)Built in controls for music mixing and live DJ scratch. Rio Carbon Creative Zen in its first hig end incarnations and about three Archos products to start. Their maketing sucked and that killed them behind the Mac juggernaut.

Lets get on to phones though. Actually the Treo line before the incorporation with Palm, and the current line-up stacks up well. My 755 has an address books that interact with Google maps the calendar notifier, scheduler and the task scheduler. Downloads are available from about a dozen sites and yes, it synchs music and data. No it dosen't tap zoom, but it does cut and paste. Full internet access and dialing from the net. I've tested the Blackberrys and they are awesome. Nokia has some killer phones that are smartphones but the price is too high.

I went up against some apple fanboys. Called them head too head and then sent a text to them in the middle of the conversation. They couldn't keep up. Don't get me wrong. The iphone is good but it's not the greatest thing around. By the way the first touch screen smartphone was made by SAMSUNG in 1999 way before the iphone. Full network integration for business, access the net, text msgs and it acted as a modem. Hardly an Apple innovation. LG had a much lower scale model in green screen (see the touch point line).

Apple's iphone/ipod is good but the one size fits all platform dosen't work for everyone and we are tired of the screaming dittohead fanboys that are really uninformed on what came from where.

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