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Analysts: Macs Cost More Than PCs, but Have Same Hardware

#21 User is offline   MarioJP Icon

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 11:40 PM

not sure about the custom cpu not really special if you can run windows on a mac. Definitely not a powerhouse gaming laptop sure maybe the casual players but not really suited for gaming.
the keyboard?? whats so special about the keyboard only thing you notice that it lights up and you call that engineering??. And just for the record i could buy a apple if i want to but i just dont have a need for it if i can do everything i want on my pc and laptop. Sides at the end of the day its just a very expensive toy. Nothing special there. I can do exactly what a apple can do if not better. And i dont care about the resell value because obviously apple only targets spoiled rich kids. quite frankly open source could hurt apple as more people realize you can do stuff for free for that matter LOL.



At least windows you can install on a mac and treats it like well a pc.
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Posted 16 March 2009 - 11:41 PM

yes, it will be interesting to see when Snow Leopard arrives this summer or fall, it's the first true 64 bit OS for PCs, plus it will have OpenCL & Grand Central so it will make Vista 2.0 look awfully slow in comparison. Microsoft just can't win it comes to software anymore :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOSX_v10.6

http://www.apple.com...sx/snowleopard/

yes, but paying the fee is nothing new, all companies have to do that so the user doesn't suffer with poor quality products. microsoft does it, hp does it, etc... and actually sony headphones are mid range in quality, you have to get to something like sennheiser to get up to par with apple level quality.

http://www.sennheise...sp?transid=cat0

okay, all for tonight...
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Posted 16 March 2009 - 11:45 PM

OS11 said:

yes, it will be interesting to see when Snow Leopard arrives this summer or fall, it's the first true 64 bit OS for PCs, plus it will have OpenCL & Grand Central so it will make Vista 2.0 look awfully slow in comparison. Microsoft just can't win it comes to software anymore :)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac[uOS[/u]X_v10.6]

[http://www.apple.com/macosx/snowleopard/]

yes, but paying the fee is nothing new, all companies have to do that so the user doesn't suffer with poor quality products. microsoft does it, hp does it, etc... and actually sony headphones are mid range in quality, you have to get to something like sennheiser to get up to par with apple level quality.

[http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite/category.asp?transid=cat0]

okay, all for tonight...

you mean windows 7 that people are loving so far in its in its beta form???. opencl is not new concept. Nividia had this idea way before opencl came along wouldn't be surprise to see every platform jump on this bandwagon. In fact i can use my gpu for folding@home. Adobe photoshop will use ur gpu. And also don't forget about intel's larabee that will do both cpu/gpu. yep nothing new there.


oh and windows 7 will also support 64 bit natively but still have support for 32 bit because lets face it windows run on a open platform. Apple can just cut u off and thats that. In fact intel and nividia are going at it and pointing finger at eachother over this. Intel say's cpu's are the way to go nvidia says cpu's is a decaying business. so who knows one thing for sure your gpu will be used to do cpu work. whether its opencl dx11 nvidia's cuda. Looks like we have 3 contenders. round 1 fight!!. Interesting to see how this will turn up and this is definitely a new cocept of computing. We will wait and see what happens.



Just to think apple had this concept to itself well not anymore.
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 12:44 AM

it's rare to have a failure on a mac, but if it does happen, they are easier to work on since they are fully engineered, not a box of mismatched parts. mobos can be repaired, no need to replace them, but when is the last time you ever saw a mac mobo fail? 5 years? 10? yes, macbook pros get warm, but they don't cause hw failures.

most all of the popular games are on the mac so it really doesn't matter, ironically macs in the early days had far better games than pcs since they had and still have better graphics... programs like dark castle, marathon, myst, halo all started on macs, but since apple didn't want macs to be seen as kiddy toys, apple slowed development. today, macs run more games than pcs so it's the best of all worlds.


and no, there has never been a virus on a mac running osx. there
were about 62 for the Classic MacOS, but in the last 8 years there hasn't been a
single one on macs. the top hacker minds have tried and tried but since macs are based on bsd unix there is technically no way for them to spread from machine to machine. macs are in 80% of large businesses so it's not that there are 50,000,000 to target, the reason is it's impossible to get into one unless you have full physical access. windows was never designed to be on networks, but unix was from the beginning... couple that with microsoft's poor programming ability and you get the mess windows has become.


when you get a little older you'll have macs, but if you are still playing games, macs are too advanced for your needs right now.










Everything said here is uncited and completely false. And playing games? I work on laptops and fix an EQUAL amount of macs as pcs, they suffer from the exact same problems and they really do have a tendenancy to have hd failures cause they're fans are bloody slow. It's part of the motherboard fan controller logic. All computers are computers and macs are no different.
I don't even know why you're trying to preach mac stuff on PCworld. Get a life man.
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 12:59 PM

ps: the xbox uses Apple's ppc chip just so you know :)

FYI actually it uses the pentium 3
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 01:07 PM

keyboards don't light up on PC laptops, Macs do. Mac laptops have magnetic pull away power cords, PCs don't, Macs have multi-touch trackpads, PCs don't, Macs hold their value 40% longer than PCs, battery life on Macs is around 35% longer. Macs work with sleep / wake, PCs usually don't, Macs run more software than PCs, OSX is more consistent and crashes far less. All Macs come with 802.11n and Bluetooth... on most pcs that's an option, Macs run silently, most PCs are noisy. Macs don't have spam on their hard drives, they don't get viruses, don't require anti-virus software... they work better on the web since OSX is what created and www... There are many, many more but you get the idea PCs are a bad value.


WAT THE HELL ARE U TALKING ABOUT!!pcs are more powerful and have more software. W HAT ABOUT ME LOGGING ON UR SNOW LEAPARD GUEST ACCOUNT AD DELETING ALL UR DATA HUH? they work better on the web? macs dont even have chrome. i wonder why oh yeah thats right the software is for pc it is the fastest browser i have used safari personnally and it sucks! i wonder how it the 2nd fastest browser! pc are better hands down it is obvious! so get the heck off of pc world PCWORLD! NOT MACWORLD GO TO MACWORLD SO GET THE HELL OF PCWORLD
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 01:23 PM

all those mac shitfuckers are stupid bitches that dont know wat they are talking about. right pc lovers?
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 01:59 PM

View PostPCWorld, on 05 March 2009 - 04:20 PM, said:



Can I assume the author is an idiot?
He specifically states that the i7 is not nehlam based, and is thus inferior... In fact the i7 9xx series chips ARE Nehlam based, and the only difference is the memory controller (ECC VS non ECC) and the ECC (Xeon) chips are SLOWER. wow, he has some learning to do before writing.
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 02:04 PM

View Postwaldojim, on 13 November 2009 - 09:59 PM, said:

View PostPCWorld, on 05 March 2009 - 04:20 PM, said:



Can I assume the author is an idiot?
He specifically states that the i7 is not nehlam based, and is thus inferior... In fact the i7 9xx series chips ARE Nehlam based, and the only difference is the memory controller (ECC VS non ECC) and the ECC (Xeon) chips are SLOWER. wow, he has some learning to do before writing.

Well, in that the original article is eight months old.... who knows what the author knew.
Computer partisanship is dumb, and that's all I'm going to say about that.
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 02:33 PM

View Postnonseq, on 13 November 2009 - 10:04 PM, said:

View Postwaldojim, on 13 November 2009 - 09:59 PM, said:

View PostPCWorld, on 05 March 2009 - 04:20 PM, said:



Can I assume the author is an idiot?
He specifically states that the i7 is not nehlam based, and is thus inferior... In fact the i7 9xx series chips ARE Nehlam based, and the only difference is the memory controller (ECC VS non ECC) and the ECC (Xeon) chips are SLOWER. wow, he has some learning to do before writing.

Well, in that the original article is eight months old.... who knows what the author knew.


yeah - I caught that after I had posted... another thread brought back from the dead... sorry.
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