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[GorgeClimber]

This is a nothing suit intended just to enrich the attorneys. I bought a Vista Capable PC and, while aggravated with the wait, am happy with Vista. Stop whining you law school incompetents.

[Deadhacker]

This is a legitimate suit intended to bring justice to the average consumer who had no idea that "Vista capable" meant "crippled beyond hope of ever running the versions of Vista you will have seen advertised on TV and all over the Internet." It is fully jsutified and, in fact, quite a bit less punitive than the deceptive advertising deserves.

[GorgeClimber]

Spoken like an attorney involved in the suit.
How much is the suit worth on an individual consumer basis? How much do the attorneys get?
From one who has used Microsoft products since 1985 and doesn't work for Microsoft. But also one who has little faith in the legal system being fair and equitable. I've seen so many screw-ups on the part of doctors, lawyers, merchandisers, automobile companies in 60 years that Microsoft's faux pas are hardly worth worrying about. Get a life. Computers are not essential for life support.

[rgreen4]

Wrong. I have a PC with the Vista Capable sticker and knew that when I got the upgrade it would be Vista Home Premium. It runs great and has never given the first BSOD that may claim they get. Anyone who could read knew that if the Vista Capable PC came with XP Home, they would get Vista Home Basic, if it had XP Media Center Edition (as mine did) they would get Vista Home Premium and if it came with XP Pro, they would bet Vista Business.

BTW - the Vista Home Premium is more stable and easier to use than was the XP Media Center Edition the machine came with. I now have Vista Home Premium on three machines, including the laptop I am using to reply to your post.

This is a nuisance suit, they were hoping that MS would cave, but instead they are now in the position to prove they are too stupid to read the labels and documentation.

[AuroraDizon]

I actually think there is some validity in the lawsuit. People who are aware of what their computers will be able to run which type of Vista and successfully judge how well wouldn't need a Vista Capable sticker to tell them what it is able to handle. Really it just seemed like a way to move the last of the line XP computers off the shelves instead of having people wait and buy a computer with Vista preinstalled on it. Its kind of like lying, its not really capable of vista its also not very clear to the average computer buying consumer that may of wanted to upgrade to Vista.

[rgreen4]

The judge has ruled on that on and denied the class action status. There are six plaintiffs in that case, so the six cases can go forward. What the lawyers are trying now is to get a class action case of whether Microsoft wronged people by only sending them a Vista Home Basic upgrade when their machine with the free upgrade status came with XP Home. Of couse the fact that XP Home did not have Media Center and Vista Home Premium does, is completely beside the point (according to them). What they are trying now is to completely restructure the case on an entirely new basis without having to file a completely new case.

[AuroraDizon]

Alright thanks for the more information, sounds like their just trying now.

[raife1]

No... as more, and more information about the "Vista Capable" program came-out in the trial, Microsoft was looking worse, and worse (more and more culpable for their, rather clearly deceptive, marketing-practices).

So... Microsoft is doing what they (Microsoft) always do... they are attempting an end-around of the entire issue, and playing the legal-system itself, to the detriment of any notion of justice, or fair analysis.

As someone who has literally worked for decades supporting, and teaching, computers, I can assure everyone that... NO... MOST computer-consumers DO NOT know nearly enough about the intricacies of "system specs" (nor, sufficient knowledge to navigate the entirely arbitrary, manipulative, Microsoft-created, delineations That Microsoft employed with "Vista")... to figure-out what "Vista", or "Vista Capable", actually was... or, meant.

...Frankly, that was the entire point of Microsofts charade (...another, in a seemingly endless series of such unethical-manipulations).

In fact, if you know anything about Microsofts true history, you should know that Microsofts plainly-stated operandi (going all the way back, directly to Bill Gates himself), was to "game-the-system" to the point that NO ONE can ever hold Microsoft accountable for Microsofts manipulative actions against consumers.

And, when... Microsoft does get dragged into the harsh-light of honest scrutiny... they (Microsoft) merely delay, double-talk, obfuscate, and do anything else that is possible to make it as hard as possible, to actually hold them (Microsoft) accountable (for Microsofts, very-intentional, actions).

And now, Microsoft is claiming that there is simply no need for a "class action" trial, because Microsoft is simply right, ...and the plaintiffs are wrong. Excuse me... but isnt determining the validity of the facts, and accusations, in such a disagreement... EXACTLY WHY... we have a court-system... unless of course you are Microsoft, and can simply make it virtually impossible to actually have a fair shot at, honest, equity.

I guess "...its good to be the King".