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[coastie65]

One game that comes to mind is "The Viking" on the PS3. Now in that thing , there is beheadings galore as well as the fact he will compltely hack someone in half with his ax. It is full of that kind of stuff. Dopn't know about Beowulf as I haven't played that much of it yet. coastie65

[TechieXP]

With the way adults have been killing people lately, I think they get the ideas from these games too.

Some of the games just looking at them look scarier then the movies at the theatre.

Mortal Kombat of course I say should have topped the list as it was teh 1st to feature spine tiggling graphics of digital death...I also think MK started the whole rating system bec Nintendo failed to allow the gore in the first release bec of their family ethics. Sega allowed teh gore and sold more of its version. Nintendo after raings were released, revamped teh game an added the gore back in.

Smash TV was actually funny. And the pay was so fast you could barely see teh gore with so much explosions of blood. Street Fighter and Fatal Fury though not mentioned were pretty violent too. It just didn't have the gorey details like todays games.

Oh Coastie65 I been dying to ask...aren't you a female? If so nice to see a womans perspective on stuff.

[coastie65]

Het TechieXP, In answer to your question, Ummm, not hardly. I think you need to recheck my avatar as that is an acual picture taken when I was aboard the Coast Guard cutter Halfmoon. :D coastie

[DarrenGladstone]

wanted to bring this up....from a comment on Digg (I won't stop you from digging this story, btw - just sayin'):
Steve1802 rightly pointed out that I forgot to include Postal 2 on this list. Mea Culpa. Truth of the matter is that part of my brain purged itself right after playing it back in the day. Yes, it flaunted plenty of ultraviolence but it was also horribly done. (I was part of CGW, the crew that gave it the infamous zero-star review.)
That said, yes, Postal 2 earned the right to be in this list. If only for using cats as a weapon.
Other games considered, but not put on this list: Age of Conan and Carmageddon. Sue me. ;p
Seriously, though, let me know about other games that YOU would have put on the this.....and thanks for reading it!
Darren Gladstone
Senior Writer, PC World

[DarrenGladstone]

techieXP said: "With the way adults have been killing people lately, I think they get the ideas from these games too."
First, let me say that it is a horrible shame what's happened as of late. A tragedy. TechieXP, I understand where you're coming from.
There are entire books, studies, and psychological tests that try to connect violent games and violent tendencies. So trying to squeeze my take into a single comment thread is a gross simplification. But here goes:
If you introduce violent ANYTHING to a kid (movies-books-Web sites, whatever!), they are bound to notice it less. Or develop a thicker skin to it. A parent's job is to intervene early on and teach a child right from wrong. Fantasy from reality.
And that's saying nothing of people that already have violent tendencies before being introduced to it (the whole nature vs. nurture debate).
Sam Kinison pointed it out best: If Charles Manson could come up with his marching orders from listening to The Beatles' Helter Skelter, they could've gotten the same message from hearing The Monkees.
Now me, I use games as a way to vent aggression that I have. Between that and working out, I actually find myself a calmer, more centered cat.

[TechieXP]

Sorry. I didn't want to assume...
When I was in Florida one of the popular real estate agents there was name Michael. And he was a she. And when I read some of your comments they seemed to be more on the softer side. SORRY...:-)

[coastie65]

Best to deal with the "softer" side. You don't want to find out about the "harder" side, and believe me, I have one. Being a mod, I tend to keep my comments low key, but there have been cases where that went out the door. That is the thing about the anonymity of these forums, you never know who is on the keyboard. A larger version of the Avatar as well as a recent picture is floating around in the forum somewhere. I forgot where, so couldn't remove them. No biggie. Incidently, that picture in my avatar was taken during a deployment to Vietnam. coastie

[Mastermind]

What? No F.E.A.R.? Alma did just horrific things in there! I mean, she could nail you to the ceiling and strip you of your skin with her mind! Come on!

[mgabrys]

Robotron had vector graphics? - Um - no - try it on MAME, or hit up a collector. I own a machine - and it didn't, doesn't, and never will - have vector graphics. Now - lame Xbox Live knockoffs? Yes - those exist in pseudo vector format. Perhaps that explains your "I did 5 minutes of research for this article of list-spam for advertising revenue" hack writing.

Ya think?

[DarrenGladstone]

my bad....about saying it was vector. but everything else there was true, my man. you shot stuff and enemies poofed into pretty colors.
I did a lot more than 5 minutes of research. Spent my whole life playing this stuff. but thanks for pointing out that bit.

[Superhands]

I think gears of war deserves a few thousand more pints of blood....... killing the giant worm in GoW2 was a bloodbath of epic proportions that had you literally wading in blood...........

[Cougar26]

Personally i am astonished that the computer game called, 'Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines', is not listed in this list. It would have to be one of the most violent computer games i have ever played. Also what about 'Wutang: Taste the Pain.' Another one they could add to the list.

[CountLeto]

What about the original Carmageddon? as far as I can remember you received points for every pedestrian you ran over, and killing and old lady gave you double points! It was very funny to wipe out the blood from the windshied....

[YARG]

What!? No Thrill Kill? That game made Mortal Combat look like a stroll through Disney Land. Came out for PS1 and was banned almost instantly. However copies made it through downloading and underground sources. Thrill Kill has ot be one of the most violent games ever made, There were actually two versions. The very first beta release was even more violent then then the currently banned version. Not to mention it was very a fun game.

[DarrenGladstone]

Yeah, I would've put ThrillKill on the list if it ever actually came out here in the states. Well, technically, a toned down version of the engine came out in the Wu-Tang Clan game.

But that's a whole other story.

There were LOTs of games I wanted to include on the list (yep, Carmageddon was on that list as well) Problem was some cuts needed to be made at some point. Technically the story was originally gonna just be 10 games. Then talking with others I started riffing. At one point, my list shot up to 25 before I got it back down to what you're seeing here.


From the beginning, I knew it was an incomplete list -- hence why I was leaving it up to you guys to mix it up with me and throw out some more games. Ya'll aren't disappointing me. ;p

[phantom2010]

Right, so Half-Life one AND two didn't happen (Ravenholme, anyone)
Bioshock didn't happen? (First encounter with a splicer)
Left 4 Dead hasn't happened whatsoever??
This list sucks! I just registered an account to say so too.

[DarrenGladstone]

Half-Life 1 & 2 -- great games but not as contoversally gory as the other games in their time. Even the Ravenholm level, as awesome as it is (doing Doom 3 better than Doom 3 did) it wasn't as over-the-top bloody as some stuff in this list for its time.

And you're right, BioShock would've been good (if only for the implied violence toward Little Sisters) but it has, in essence, the same sort of combat as in Condemned if you think about it.

And L4D? As awesome as that game is, you're shooting zombies, but it isn't as over-the-top gory. Dead Rising is bloodier (and that didn't make this list).

Thanks for going to the trouble of writing in.

[j3rp1985]

You totally left off two of the best and bloodiest games made, Postal and Postal 2 if you haven't you gotta try em!

[Fatalchef]

I would say the PC adventure game "Phantasmagoria" from the 90's was definitely overlooked. Really one of the first games to really want to make me run to the bathroom to lose my lunch back in the day. People getting bloody body parts stuffed down their throats, heads split in half, and the controversial "rape" scene. I'm not even sure why I was allowed to purchase and play such a game in my childhood. Never had the pleasure? of playing Night Trap, but i'm almost certain this game puts it to shame in both the horrible acting and bloodiness categories.