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[WinTard]

That explains why I haven't seen any updates? I use the x64 version of Windows 7 RC.

However, there were a few patches since beta build 7000, the last one being 7077 before this RC build 7100.

So are all patches for Nasty Bugs? Or just bugs?

Anyway, this is a Release Candidate, there could be a few others, before the final product.

Big deal!

[ivorycruncher]

I'm using the x64 edition RC, and I experienced a very similar issue. After I dropped the system out of a homegroup a created a new one, I suddenly found I had no access whatsoever to the C drive, which is the drive Windows is installed. I still don't know if the timing of that was coincidental, or the actual cause. Surprisingly, the system still rebooted okay, but programs were crashing left and right. I could have probably used system restore, but I like to leave that as a last resort.
I ended up digging into the advanced security settings on the root drive itself and forcibly took ownership of all files and folders on that drive, after which I could access the ACL list and restore normal security permissions for all users and system services. Fortunately this is a process I'm familiar with, and it's not something the majority of users should attempt, nor should they have to. Perhaps I had better submit a bug report to Microsoft, because this could potentially be a serious flaw.

[waldojim]

I did see updates, but they were all driver updates. Now when I mute my audio on my laptop, the little light turns red again!

Seriously though, there were 4 driver updates (idt audio, agere modem, etc) and 2 IE patches.

At least MS is on the ball for this one.

[WinTard]

Well the article states the bug is for the x86 (32-bit version), not the x64 (64-bit version).

I must say that I've never used the x86 Windows 7, directly went to the x64 version since Jan 13 2009 on build 7000. I've successfully joined the corporate domain, my own personal domain at home. So there again, I cannot speak for non-domain versions (workgroups), or bugs.

All I can say, is I have not noticed any of the problems reported by the article, specifically concerning the 32-bit version of Windows 7.

That patch issued by Microsoft was to fix the problem with x86, not x64. Thus only saw like you report, driver updates, specifially the Dell Bluetooth. That was the only one. Oh, I didn't have to look for a single driver, it was all done automatically by Windows 7. And they are all 64-bit drivers. :)

This is my device manager list:





I hope you are enjoying this trial version, as much as I am!

[WinTard]

Yes, that looks pretty serious... I'd attempt to do the same steps again, and see if it is reproducible? But for sure would submit a bug report if that is the case... Good catch (if it isn't a weird coincidence?). Are you using the RC build 7100 or still another prior build? Oops answered my own question, as I toggle back and forth between windows... ;) I wish some of these things happen to me... I am using IE8 x86 under XP-SP3 and IE8 x64 under Windows 7 x64, and have yet to find trouble with IE8. Yet other members here report all kinds of trouble with IE8 to the point of reverting back to IE7... Well IE7 isn't an option in Windows 7... Regardless, I don't understand how people get into trouble? I don't mean you. I mean many seem to report problems with IE8, whereas I find none...

As a funny anecdote, people call me for trouble with their systems, and when I get there, the problem appears to vanish, only when I'm around... LOL! I know it is incredible, but yet still a fact. Oh well...

[waldojim]

Oh I am having fun!

So far though, I have ran into a couple of snags...

1. There are two unknown devices - which I don't even know what they are yet... There are somethings in the laptop that are a bit hard to test as I don't use them. The wireless card works, the Modem works, sound works, even my hot keys at the top work. Everything I use seem to work fine... so I am thinking they may have something to do with the webcam.

2. This one is NOT Microsofts fault - just annoying. Alltel does not support 64bit windows. At all. I had to go to Kyocera for the driver... not a big pain - but still annoying.

3. This one I don't know about - I could not tell you if it is Windows or the Driver, but that same card (Kyocera KPC680) will not recover from sleep mode, requiring me to restart windows....

4. Again, Don't know if this is windows or the driver manufacturer, but, with ATI comes ATI drivers... and the newest from the website - built FOR win7 64bit, downloaded, installed, and didn't do me any good... for some reason, windows would not load it against the video card, opting for the MS driver instead. SO, I go the older version for Vista 64 and am a happy camper again. The video card does work... just on the wrong driver. So far no problems detected though.

SO, all in all, everything seems to be fine, the system has been MUCH more responsive. And it does not seem to be working as hard to do the simple things. For some reason, Vista made this poor laptop bust its butt for simple things... but 7 is doing well for now.

[WinTard]

I'm glad you are enjoying it! Isn't it the point? To enjoy?

Yes, my bane is I was afraid of the suspend/sleep/resume problems. But on this Dell Latitude D830, zero, zilch, nada, no problems at all. And it is lightning quick. Whenever I swap the slide in SATA HDD with my work XP-SP3, I barely can stand the machine anymore... Yes our corporate standard is XP-SP3 still. So I have to use that at work. :( I don't even put the screw, so swapping the HDD is a mere shutdown/swap/reboot. 1.5 minute at most. And the thing shutdowns and boots fast. XP is much slower, but in all fairness, it is the x86 32-bit version of XP.

Eech, at work, we're going to wait till SP1 of Windows 7 before deploying... Wise move in the past, but I wonder with Win7? I'm just that impatient. I also have a gaming system at home using Vista x64, and it is slower than Windows 7, at least the perception that is...

I hope you find a solution to all your camera and ATi quirks.

Good Luck! And Have Fun!

[Car54]

I can't wait....but I have to, as my new hard drive won't be getting in until Tues?, hopefully With my Dell Inspiron, like you Win Tard, it will be so easy to swap the drives out. I have the file downloaded, and ready to burn the image disc. So after I install it, the first thing I need to do is run an update, so that I get all the updates and the patch before I try downloading and installing any of my software and drivers? Or on the install, will Windows search for all the updates and patches and install them?

[waldojim]

well, like I said earlier, the ATI drivers were just a matter of finding a set it liked - which I did, and they work very well.

I have had a chance to play movies on here, and play WoW, so far both are working flawlessly!

WoW never ran great on this machine due to the graphics card being a 3200, but at the native resolution and low settings, its pulling 35-40fps avg, I can deal with that.

I do want to see how it will hold up though once I get my usual arsenal of software installed. Sometimes windows can take quite an impact once nero, avg, comodo, and the various game managers (steam, EA, and NCsoft) get installed.... SO many more hours of testing to come.

However, for the moment, I am glad to report it SEEMS much quicker for the moment.

[smax013]

WinTard said:

As a funny anecdote, people call me for trouble with their systems, and when I get there, the problem appears to vanish, only when I'm around... LOL! I know it is incredible, but yet still a fact. Oh well...

That is computer support 101...you show up and the problem magically fixes itself...you then leave and get a call 15 mintues later..."the problem is back"...so you wander over again...and it is gone again. Been there...done that. I mainly attribute it to the fact the my own computer has passed the word the when it misbehaves, I threaten it with a sledge hammer...thus, the other computers learn that from my computer and thus are scared into behaving again when I show up just due to the reputation my computer has made for me! ;)

[bbvammy]

I guess I make a wise choice of not install Windows 7 yet.

I will in the future, but I will wait until all the test subjects report all the bugs. ]:)

[chevrolet1994]

Hopefully, Microsoft will tighten up their Quality Control before Windows 7 is released for sale to the public.

[Car54]

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WinTard said:

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> As a funny anecdote, people call me for trouble with their systems, and when I get there, the problem appears to vanish, only when I'm around... LOL! I know it is incredible, but yet still a fact. Oh well...

That is computer support 101...you show up and the problem magically fixes itself...you then leave and get a call 15 mintues later..."the problem is back"...so you wander over again...and it is gone again. Been there...done that. I mainly attribute it to the fact the my own computer has passed the word the when it misbehaves, I threaten it with a sledge hammer...thus, the other computers learn that from my computer and thus are scared into behaving again when I show up just dueet the to the reputation my computer has made for me! ;)

lol, that's good smax, I'l have to move my computers closer to each other so they don't get any ideas of acting up. :-)

[smax013]

Car54 said:

lol, that's good smax, I'l have to move my computers closer to each other so they don't get any ideas of acting up. :-)

Proximity is not needed...why the heck do think that Al Gore created the Internet for...so that my computer could warn other computers about my sledge hammer, of course! ;)

[Car54]

lol, thanks for the Sunday morning wake up laughs smax :-)

[WinTard]

Car54 said:

I can't wait....but I have to, as my new hard drive won't be getting in until Tues?, hopefully With my Dell Inspiron, like you Win Tard, it will be so easy to swap the drives out. I have the file downloaded, and ready to burn the image disc. So after I install it, the first thing I need to do is run an update, so that I get all the updates and the patch before I try downloading and installing any of my software and drivers? Or on the install, will Windows search for all the updates and patches and install them?

Oh I hope you ordered the drive from Dell? If not, then you will have to get the HDD tray from Dell parts. The parts are inexpensive, they cost me $8 per tray. So I purchased 10, just in case. Then you can take any compatible drive, in the case of the Dell Latitude D830, any 2.5" Sata, and mount it onto that drive tray with two screws. You might as well as get those miniature screws from Dell parts.

Sorry I don't recall the exact model # for your Dell laptop? But in my case here's what I did.

Google: Results 1 - 10 of about 7,130 for dell latitude d830 service manual. (0.14 seconds)

http://support.dell....30/en/index.htm
http://support.dell....SM_EN/index.htm
http://support.dell....e.htm#wp1111657



So per HDD, you need a HDD bezel (#2) and two two M3 x 5-mm flat head screws (#1). That's it.

I prefer to buy parts, for the flexibility it affords me.
Seagate Momentus 7200.3 ST9320421ASG 320 GB - internal - 2.5" - SATA-300 - 7200 rpm - buffer: 16 MB (ST9320421ASG) $100
Seagate ST9500420ASG 500 GB MOMENTUS 7200.4 SATA 2.5FF 16MB CCH with G-Force Protection (ST9500420ASG) $170

Prices vary all the time, just get the best deal. Those are from the brick & mortar walk-in store 5 minutes away from my home.

As you install Windows 7 from scratch, it will do EVERYTHING automatically. You just have plunk DVD, boot, accept the terms, and let'er rip! In my case, I didn't have to do a thing extra, to update, or look for any extra drivers. How much simpler can it get? :)

Enjoy!

[Car54]

Thanks for your thoughtfulness :) and yes, I did get it from Dell, so it will be an easy plug in and go operation.

And if I get it Tuesday, it will be just in time to get the Microsoft fake updates. :)