[kris240376]

As a 1st gen iPhone owner (managed to get my hands onto one day two) I would have to say that the iPhone is good for what did. It kick started the whole industry and made phone designers re-evaluate the smartphone landscape and offer more compelling easier to use devices. But beyond that, there isn't anything that makes it the end-all-be-all device for everyone.
The thing that burns me most is that Apple has some really smart engineers and was made to believe that the extensibility of the device was their number of concern. Unsurprisingly, it wasn't until a competitor revealed a device that had the slightest glimmer of hope stealing away some of their thunder that they decided to make good on their promises in any measurable way (at least for me). That just smacks of a$$hattery the likes of which angers me to no end. I spent $650 on my device and you can't give me simple copy-paste, MMS, and voice dialing, features that my old Razr had, until you feel threatened by a competing device?
Why can't people see that competition is a good thing? The Pre will make Apple create a better device. Not because they want to, but because they have to. Hopefully the next set of features won't take two years to implement...
As for me I welcome the Pre and am looking forward to owning one. The 3GS looked like much of the same-ole' same-ole' and I'll be holding out until AT&T gets the Pre on their network (Sprint is a blackhole in my area).
Also, to all of those that keep mentioning the importance of apps and the lack of apps seem to be forgetting that there is an app store for the Pre that is in it's infancy. Palm is going to have some growing pains, much like Apple did with their API. Give them some time. Apps will come. Everyone seems to be forgetting that there is money to be made selling apps on this platform.

[swagg]

Its soo funny to see that he (David Coursey) doesnt even reply to his own Discussions. I bet thats not even his real name.

[megacrazy]

Wow...what utter garbage.
Message was edited by: smax013 - no personal attacks please

[pvito]

@ dparisoe:
I have a 2 iPhone 3G plan with Att and your price is correct but you get 1400 shared (don't forget rollover).
Anyway, I'm sorry I read this article. I believe the Pre will continue to be a success! WebOS looks awesome, wtf is this guy thinking??

[TechPhonix]

@1MacGeek says:
Thu Jun 11 06:42:25 PDT 2009
@ swagg : No facts you say?

iPhone 3g : $99 <-- Fact: this is for the reject model

Palm Pre : $199

[momof3]

David, have you actually tried out the Pre? I don't understand how you can be so negative! In fact, not much of what has been coming out of PC World has been positive...why?
There is plenty of room in the smart phone space for Pre to succeed! Haven't you heard about upcoming deals with Verizon and At&T not to mention others around the globe? The Pre had a great launch (since when is a sell out a failure?) and is delivering more phones each day to stores. Web OS has been hailed by many as a great new operating system. Much more to come from this company. Look at what the anaylsts are saying about the financials - - there is a lot more "UP" to go for Palm and its new products...just watch.

[jamiejamiejamie]

i'm looking for a new phone right now. my contract with sprint is over in a week. the palm pre is in the top spot right now. i will absolutely not get an iphone because it is on at&t and i can not get service anywhere around here with them (i know this from experience). also, you can get unlimited data and text from sprint for only $70 ($60 if you use the referral program) AND unlimited minutes start at 7. go to at&t or vzw and it's about $20-30 more as their plans do not include everything, you have to add on.
also, the pre and iphone comparisons are unfair. you should be comparing the 3gs to the pre in terms of specs and performance. they are very close. the pre is better in some areas and the iphone better in others. the 3gs is $200. pre vs 3gs seem very close in terms of price, specs, and performance. the iphone 3g is $100 because that is now a year old and does not meet the specs of the palm pre. the 3g also lacks a lot of functions that the pre and 3gs offer. so don't mix up your apples and oranges. the 3g is so 2thousandandlate. performance is another story and that is why i will test the pre before making a decision. however, from the videos and reviews i've seen, i'm hopeful that the pre is truly a multi-tasking phone- something that puts it above other smartphones

[johncase3]

All the comments were deleted (99% negative) Unbelievable.

[slappy]

Sounds about right to me. After Mondays WWDC, Apple just moved the bar higher again. Adding the $99 for current 3G price point is a killer deal for a lot of folks.

[JetpackJesus]

The $99 3G is a killer deal until month 3 of the contract, at which point the iPhone owner has paid $50 more than the Pre owner. Then you can go ahead and add the extra $50 the iPhone user pays for the next 21 months to the total cost. In no way is the iPhone, with AT&T's rates, a killer deal. Even if the iPhone were free, it would be a worse deal than the Pre. Of course, this is the fault of AT&T more than the iPhone, but it's still the reality of the situation.

[lohertz]

This journalism smut that has been coming from PC World is despicable

Here's the thing, most of the articles are really biased, yes, though, they are blogs, which gives it editroial status rather than news or comparions, but still, its ugly.

Second point, why are saying that Pre has nowhere to go but down and the company's plan was to have Appple then RIM tank in order for it to succeed? Wouldn't the prune business strategy be to develop something thats competitive or should GM just pack up and go home?

Last I checked, Palm has been in the handheld device market long time, before Apple and RIM. But because innovation and other products have taken the spotlight, doesnt meant that ever other vendor shoudl pack it in because Apple has a huge market share...kinda sounds like what Apple users said about Microsoft?

Get a clue and write something with something with a point and not some off the cuff crap editorial.

[oneAwake]

The fact the vast majority will not recommend your biased story, should tell you something. Also, do you know the difference between a soft launch and a hard launch? The Pre was soft launched! The hard launch happens after the major TV AD campaign rolls out. The fact Sprint sold upwards of 100,000 units without a TV AD, is great. The 1st iphone sold upwards of 150,000 units on launch day, with national TV AD's.
Why aren't you showing the 200+ no's at the top?

[Dueces]

Failed launch of the Pre? What bizarro world are you living in?

[achristie]

I'm confused. Every article I've read so far has described the launch of the Pre a success. What are you using as a basis to describe the launch as a failure? If selling out of units while building a waiting list is considered a failure, then what's considered a success?
It's not Apple. It's not an iPhone. It wont sell like an iPhone. Everyone knew that going into the launch, including Palm. But that doesn't make it a failure. The Pre to the iPhone is like the Toyota Tundra is to the Ford F-150 and Chevy Silverado. It's another player in the marketplace. A marketplace that's growing by leaps and bounds. A marketplace that has PLENTY of room, which means you don't have to be #1 to be considered a success.
I disagree. I own a Pre and I don't see it as a bad idea at all. It has many, many creative, good ideas. It's a great product. Will it save Palm? I don't have their financials (and I assume you don't either) so I can't say. But what I'm fairly certain about is that someone will take over the ingenious technology, whether or not Palm's around.

[swagg]

So, IMHO, the Palm Pre wins.. Now maybe not in every catagory, but all in all, Pre..





Sorry Apple, I know it's not fair but, I'm sure you'll get over it. lol jk no hate intended..

[lordhong]

Pathetic, you deleted all the comments? 316 No vs 35 Yes says it all.

[Dueces]

Shame on PC world and shame on this author for deleting the comments from the article page. This guy obviously has no idea what hes talking about and the spreading of this mis-information without letting readers see what actual users think is low.

[yoyoyo2]

what is pcworld.com talking about. Did you actually try the palm pre before writing about it.
How about the fact that the palm pre allows you to run multiple applications in the background like a true OS. Does the iphone do that, no. But you didn't compare them at all, you just said the palm pre is bad and is going down.
Does David Coursey actually read the comments, he could take it as constructive criticism to improve his journalist skills.

[bluon]

Your price comparison on the hardware ignores differences in service charges over your 2 year contract. That is pretty shortsighted for a "technical" writer. How about telling people what the average service cost would be based on usage?
From what I have seen so far, if you use your phone a lot, the Sprint everything plan is about $100/month. A comparable AT&T plan would be $150/month. Ignoring the phone cost, going with the iPhone would be an additional $1200 over 2 years. For more casual users, it would be interesting to look at price differences. Either way, that $100 savings on a phone will get eaten up pretty fast once you start using it.

[Pickyru2]

Is this PC World or Mac World? Looking at this page I thought I was looking be mistake at Mac World. Let's see here: 10 headlines on this page and 7 are about Mac. What gives? This is the reason I cancelled my subscription