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Click to view RifRaf's profile New Member 3 posts since
Apr 28, 2008
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Apr 28, 2008 3:45 PM

First Build - $1000 Gaming - Please advise!


Hi everyone! As the subject suggests, I'm planning my first build and am looking to spend about $1000 (a little more or less is ok) on a build, not including OS/case/monitor. I want to use it to game, mostly MMO's and Starcraft2 whenever that comes out. I plan on using a 24" monitor. I started with this build:

Xeon 3100 Wolfdale CPU or the E8400 (based on availability):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...k=Xeon%2bE3110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...5037&Tpk=E8400

Gigabye GA-P35-S3G LGA 775 board:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...Tpk=GA-P35-S3G

MSI NX800GT 512mb OC GeForce card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127329

G.Skill 2GB DDR2-800 RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231098

Seagate Harddrive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148288

Lite-On Optical Drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106072


But now I'm thinking I'd like to have an SLI/Crossfire build. I'd probably start with only one card and save the other slot for upgrading later. If possible, I'd like to get a TV Tuner that I can use to watch cable TV and also play my console systems.

Assuming I keep most of the stuff above, what kind of motherboard, RAM, and PSU would I need for this build? Is it worth it switching over or is what I had before ok?


Thanks in advance for the help, and if I need to clarify anything please let me know!


~RifRaf

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106072

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Click to view Evildave's profile Enthusiast 468 posts since
Jan 24, 2008
1. Apr 28, 2008 7:34 PM in response to: RifRaf
Re: First Build - $1000 Gaming - Please advise!

Buy one of each game console (XBOX 360, PS3, Wii), then install Linux on the PS3 (it still runs games). You'll still have money left over in the budget to buy games.

Click to view Kilme's profile Member 196 posts since
Feb 12, 2008
3. Apr 29, 2008 5:55 AM in response to: RifRaf
Re: First Build - $1000 Gaming - Please advise!
Looks solid to me. I know a lot of people use that board for Intel builds; it's cheap and effective. The north bridge may get warm however. I have an AMD variant of that board, and I saw some people complaining about it. I haven't noticed, but I got a fan for it just to be safe. I'd say go with the E8400 if you can find it.

My only suggestion is to see if you can find some Mushkin or Crucial RAM that's cheap. The GSkill would probably be fine, but I just trust those other companies more. Also, I personally think SLI/Crossfire is a waste. I'd rather just have one powerful card. On that note, you happened to pick the exact video card that I want for myself. MSI makes some nice cooling systems on their cards.

I assume you already have a PSU, keyboard, mouse, etc?


Athlon X2 5000 BE 3.1GHz, Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro, Gigabyte GA-MA770-DS3 AM2+, Visiontek HD4850, Corsair XMS2 2GB DDR2 800, OCZ StealthXStream 600W PSU
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Apr 22, 2008
5. Apr 29, 2008 7:10 AM in response to: RifRaf
Re: First Build - $1000 Gaming - Please advise!
For PSU's more is better. Aslong as your getting 20+4 etc requirements for your motherboard. More wattage is better. Of course your electric bill comes fatter then usual if say you only need a 500 and you get a 1KW PSU. Rosewells are nice, I leave my computer on all night and day, I've done so for the past six months and it hasn't failed me yet.
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Feb 12, 2008
6. Apr 29, 2008 9:51 AM in response to: RifRaf
Re: First Build - $1000 Gaming - Please advise!
You're right, PSUs that are supplied with cases are usually pretty crappy. There is one exception that I know of, the Antec Sonata III. It comes with an Antec 500w Earthwatts PSU, which is a decent power supply. If you don't already have a case, and you still want a combo deal with a PSU, then that is a good choice.

As far as separate PSUs go, Corsair is the best brand right now, I believe. If you can find some from PC Power and Cooling, they are pretty good as well (although I think they were recently bought out by another company, OCZ I think). There are other brands, but I can't remember them all. Go here to look at the PSU tier list. It shows what PSUs are good, and what ones aren't. It's on the second post of the page.

Also, as for how many watts you need, I'm not sure. Given the information I see now, I'd like to say that 500w would be okay. But who knows if you want to add more hard drives, fans, or anything else that needs more power. Check out this site for a PSU calculator. You can enter in all the components you are planning on, and even add in some things that you may buy in the future. It will give you an estimate of how large a PSU you need. Overkill can be good, as long as you don't go overboard. For instance, the calculator estimated that I would need about 480w for my build. I decided to get a 600w supply, just to make sure I have enough headroom. Besides, the price difference between a 500w and 600w is pretty small.


Athlon X2 5000 BE 3.1GHz, Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro, Gigabyte GA-MA770-DS3 AM2+, Visiontek HD4850, Corsair XMS2 2GB DDR2 800, OCZ StealthXStream 600W PSU
Click to view Evildave's profile Enthusiast 468 posts since
Jan 24, 2008
7. Apr 29, 2008 11:10 AM in response to: RifRaf
Re: First Build - $1000 Gaming - Please advise!

No, not really. Since the PS3 doesn't have an Intel CPU, you can boot Windows, but it has to be 100% emulated.

However, you can run any old ID game and MAME and such. It in no way interferes with using the PS3 as a PS3, either.

What I was saying was you can use the PS3 as a PC, have OpenOffice, Gimp, etc. all 100% natively run, and still have your game consoles for games, with tons of money to spare from your $1000 budget. Especially seeing as you already have the PS3. The consoles will continue to run new games long after your $1000 PC is no better than the PS3 for running new PC games.

And for you kids out there, it becomes awfully hard for Mom & Dad to take away your PS3 if it's what you do your homework on. A $300 PC that can play kick-ass games is a pretty good deal. Call it $350 if you need a VGA connector and the USB keyboard/mouse. $350.25 counting the blank CDR to burn a PS3 compatible Linux onto. You have no real excuse not to at least TRY Linux on the PS3.

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