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60 Replies Last post: May 11, 2008 9:20 AM by JEmlay Go to original post 1 2 3 4 5 Previous Next

maxdll

2 posts since
May 2, 2008

15. May 4, 2008 11:50 PM

in response to: Danthrax

Re: Vista 'Inevitable' at Work, Analyst Says

I agree...and i thank you for posting your opinion...which is most of the pc worlds anyway.

JEmlay

29 posts since
Mar 13, 2007

16. May 5, 2008 9:02 AM

in response to: PCWorld

Vista 'Inevitable' at Work, Analyst Says

Some of you guys are hilarious with your cute little comments.

Some of you actually believe you are entitled to "something". As was already mentioned, if you don't like the way MS is running their business then SWITCH. But we all know what wont happen WHICH IS WHY some of you whine like babies about it. The hard cold truth is that Linux CAN NOT give you what you "want" either yet alone what you "need".

Either way, NO ONE is being forced to switch and NO ONE is going to get punished for not switching. If Windows 7 is worse then Vista then by all means upgrade to Vista then. At least drivers will be stronger. As well, who is forcing you to switch? Do any of you have any clue as to how long people continued to use NT4 for YEARS after it's EOL? You can keep using XP all you want. There wont be any security fixes however, your CLIENTS shouldn't be relying on those anyway you naughty IT admins!!!!

butlerwm

35 posts since
Jul 27, 2006

17. May 5, 2008 10:19 AM

in response to: PCWorld

Vista 'Inevitable' at Work, Analyst Says

I continue to enjoy the way "analysts" and "columnists" know so little about the industry or alternatives in hardware and software. There are alternatives to a Vista upgrade. MacOS has its own version of MS Office that's fully compatable with the Windows side. Intel Macs will run XP and has all the driver support needed. Linux has all the fuctionality of Windows offerings in document creation, multimedia, and scientific work. MS has been at the top of the business heap with little or no competition for many years. Now they offer an operating system full of flaws (and don't mention SP1 because it does fix problems or speed issues) and wonder why business hasn't climbed on board. MS needs to wake up and smell the coffee. Business has other choices and unless MS comes to realize that, they'll miss the boat.

I think I won't shed any tears if MS loses its dominant position in the industry. It's about time they were humbled.

pritchard12

6 posts since
Feb 26, 2008

18. May 5, 2008 3:49 PM

in response to: JEmlay

Re: Vista 'Inevitable' at Work, Analyst Says

JEmlay like Microsoft you will soon have to face reality. When I buy a new dell I am forced to buy windows. People aren't using windows vista by choice, they are using it because Bill Gates is a great businessman. Most people are forced to use these crap products because businesses run more efficiently when everyone is using the same software / same format for documents. So if there was an open choice, then why the hell would anyone want windows vista? No one wants it, it's junk, and the only reason people use it is because they are forced into it when they bought a computer. Windows is like high gas prices, it sucks, but, you do have to drive to work... you can't just quit and not use your car (or in this case windows).

RNR19952

259 posts since
Mar 7, 2007

19. May 5, 2008 4:26 PM

in response to: pritchard12

Re: Vista 'Inevitable' at Work, Analyst Says

You can order a Dell with XP pro, Home, Ubuntu or Free DOS right off their website

JEmlay

29 posts since
Mar 13, 2007

20. May 5, 2008 4:42 PM

in response to: pritchard12

Re: Vista 'Inevitable' at Work, Analyst Says

pritchard12, I'm living reality just fine, thank you.

"When I buy a new dell I am forced to buy windows."

You are wrong. You are NOT forced to by windows. Further more you are NOT forced to buy Dell.

"People aren't using windows vista by choice"

Hahaha, thanks for the laugh. However, again, you are wrong. Your blatant generalize comment is completely false.

"Most people are forced to use these crap products because businesses run more efficiently"

Crap products = more efficient? Um.... yeah, no comment.

"So if there was an open choice, then why the hell would anyone want windows vista?"

There IS choice so you just answered your own question. Welcome to reality.

"you can't just quit and not use your car (or in this case windows)."

That has got to be the WORST analogy I have ever read regarding computers.

pritchard12

6 posts since
Feb 26, 2008

21. May 5, 2008 5:24 PM

in response to: JEmlay

Re: Vista 'Inevitable' at Work, Analyst Says

Haha ok I can laugh at my typo. However, when you buy a dell for example, xps 420, you have the choice right now, xp or vista... Which means people are naturally forced to buy a windows product. If I put ubuntu on a work computer right now, and everyone else is using windows, you should be able to see where there are going to be problems... So when xp is taken off the market how do many people have a choice?

and the gas analogy was brilliant... how many people hate buying gas at $4 a gallon? How many people hate buying expensive microsoft products?

You should be able to understand that, exxon and microsoft both make great profits... not so much because people are in love with their products, but because they have to use them to make money.

JEmlay

29 posts since
Mar 13, 2007

22. May 5, 2008 5:42 PM

in response to: pritchard12

Re: Vista 'Inevitable' at Work, Analyst Says

You call that a typo? You where dead wrong. Period.

Nothing in your new post negates my last post. No one is forcing you to buy Dell. Also, if you CALL Dell you have MORE options.

I would have to say a very small percentage HATE to buy MS product. Also if you think for one second that MS profit is anywhere NEAR gas profit then you are nuts! MS makes about 14 billion a quarter. Exxon alone made 370 billion last year. So let's see ~56 < 370.....yup, that still makes for a poor analogy.

pritchard12

6 posts since
Feb 26, 2008

23. May 5, 2008 6:19 PM

in response to: JEmlay

Re: Vista 'Inevitable' at Work, Analyst Says

Right,

"You where dead wrong. Period."

Now who made the typo... You understand what you want to, obviously you never make mistakes.

JEmlay

29 posts since
Mar 13, 2007

24. May 5, 2008 9:07 PM

in response to: pritchard12

Re: Vista 'Inevitable' at Work, Analyst Says

That's awesome, I was hoping you'd go for that. Now THAT is a real typo. Major difference between the two. Look, I type faster then I can think. My posts are usually riddled with REAL typos. Let's be honest, you were in the mood to talk smack about MS and like most people you are upset about what the media has led you to believe. As you found out there is MUCH more to the big picture.

This is what is commonly considered FAKE news. Nothing about it is real and 100% of it is based on assumption.

If you want a machine with XP on it you can get one. Even after Dell stops selling them you can STILL get one. However you are going outside the scope of this topic and are arguing you HAVE TO get Windows. Well, that's false. As always, with PC, you have choice. Do you think Apple gives you choice? HECK NO! You get OSX PERIOD. So, it could be WORSE then PC + Microsoft. I say, count your blessings and buy what you want. You have choice!

anonymousx

10 posts since
Jan 28, 2008

25. May 6, 2008 8:10 PM

in response to: PCWorld

Vista 'Inevitable' at Work, Analyst Says

"one of Microsoft's biggest weaknesses, the unpredictable release schedule"
uhh, that's with basically every company

I doubt these so called "experts" in the comments section have ever used windows vista before judging by their comments

macrhino

3 posts since
Apr 7, 2007

26. May 9, 2008 3:50 AM

in response to: PCWorld

Vista 'Inevitable' at Work, Analyst Says

One wonders if the author even uses these computers. Is that article serious? No serious alternative? Is Vista a serious alternative?
Last week at Interop in Vegas I offered to vendors to let them "secure" their Windows installation and see if I could hack it from my iPhone. No one took the chance. These are security vendors!

If you are in corporate IT and your users are still using a variety of Windows, you need to find another job, as does Mr. Keizer. Your corporate systems are wide open!

DuaneR

1 posts since
May 9, 2008

27. May 9, 2008 6:32 AM

in response to: PCWorld

Re: Vista 'Inevitable' at Work, Analyst Says

Inevitable? Perhaps. I don't know of anyone still using Windows 95 in a business setting. But...

As a small business owner, I will resist upgrading as long as humanly possible. Vista won't make us more efficient and it doesn't add any functionallity that I'm currently lacking. It is just another contrived opportunity for Microsoft to gouge more money from small businesses. Large companies have bargining power on price of Microsoft products, but the little guy has to swallow the full retail price. And for what, a glitzy new UI and multimedia features that adds no value in the business environment? Thanks, but NO THANKS.

crazy4laptops

263 posts since
Nov 20, 2007

28. May 9, 2008 7:06 AM

in response to: PCWorld

Re: Vista 'Inevitable' at Work, Analyst Says

I want to avoid vista at work. In a nutshell vista is a power hungry beast that consumes everything and leaves nothing left for the user. Vista is a contradiction to power savings and long battery life on a laptop. Ridiculous = an o/s that has a kernel that is 15 gigs in size. Prodictivity is a computer that boots and loads up fast and has great battery life. Ubuntu and it's full install size is ~2 gigs and is actually more useful than vista. It's easier to configure and use than vista also.

I don't have to keep up with technology, i just adapt when I want to.

jdcast02

8 posts since
Nov 10, 2006

29. May 9, 2008 9:46 AM

in response to: PCWorld

Vista 'Inevitable' at Work, Analyst Says

It's always fun to read the comments every time Windows is the topic. The Pro vs. Con types, are like watching the cheerleaders start a catfight royale during halftime.

Now, A) Is Windows inevitable? B) Is it doomed? C) Why does it "suck"? D) Why the alternatives linger in the sidelines? These questions fill whole forums on their own; but since it's all about personal opinions here...

In back order: D) Regardless of effective/efficient, it's plain simpler to have standards, whoever's they are. C) For all its hype, Windows specifically targets business offices: Where hamstrung cubicle drones only do what certified admins permit; Anywhere else, the model doesn't fit. B) The demise of Windows' hegemony is spelled by "C"; yet it's prevented by "D". This vicious circle won't break without a whiplash. A) With its chokehold on "D", the unawareness of "C" and the complacence on "B"... We're stuck for a long and slow train ride; Unless you're willing to hike your own path thru the hills.

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