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13 Replies Last post: May 16, 2008 7:47 PM by multihuller5693

PCWorld

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May 8, 2008 3:00 AM

Hollywood Wants $15 Million From Pirate Bay

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ImaPhake

199 posts since
Sep 1, 2006

1. May 8, 2008 4:06 PM

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Re: Hollywood Wants $15 Million From Pirate Bay

How much will the MPAA demand from Google?
After all, it does the same thing as a torrent search site like the Pirate Bay:

http://www.google.com/search?q=filetype%3Atorrent+harry+potter

Why do they ignore the "elephant in the middle of the room?"

Message was edited by: ImaPhake

RNR19952

348 posts since
Mar 7, 2007

2. May 8, 2008 3:45 PM

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Hollywood Wants $15 Million From Pirate Bay

I thought search engines are not liable?
Do they actually host content?
And who in the hell would watch the Pink Panther more than once?
Prison Break was on TV, So why is downloading that illegal?

ImaPhake

199 posts since
Sep 1, 2006

3. May 8, 2008 4:03 PM

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Re: Hollywood Wants $15 Million From Pirate Bay

That's the thing -- The Pirate Bay does not actually host any copyrighted content.

Torrent metafiles (which is what The Pirate Bay does have) do not hold any copyrighted data either.

Just. Like. Google!

pOpS

2 posts since
May 3, 2008

4. May 8, 2008 6:27 PM

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Hollywood Wants $15 Million From Pirate Bay

Maybe those that are losing revenues on their product should beat then to the punch by releasing web versions with their own sponsors embedded in the movie,tv show or whatever media is causing their loss of revenue.What advertiser would pass up the chance to put their product ad in the middle of Harry Potter and the like.I would download a before dvd release ad crusted version of their movie that was already spoiled by them showing all the good parts on their previews and other forms of ads.And the rest of the movie draaaagggggsss along.If there is a loss of revenue it may be the content not being attractive to those that are willing to pay.I'm very skeptical about going to a movie that has more than two trailers (Watch them back to back and you get the cliff notes version of the movie or TV show).Or "All the good parts"the rest could have been cut cause I'm asleep.

flyer9753

2 posts since
May 15, 2008

5. May 15, 2008 6:47 PM

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Re: Hollywood Wants $15 Million From Pirate Bay

I am getting so sick of this.

Piratebay and all the other torrents search engines are just that, search engines, just like Yahoo and Google. They are not liable for the content of thier searches or the meta files that they then do host. To hold them responsible is akin to holding Rand McNally responsible for prostitution becuase thier maps can be used to find the way to the local whore house.

Someone on here asked why RMAA and the others aren't going after Google and Yahoo? Becuase the RMAA knows that both Yahoo and Google have enough MONEY to properly fight back, while the smaller torrent search engines do not. This is nothing more than exploitative capitalism being yeilded with a big stick, schoolyard bully style.

I hope the court sees this, unfortunately they probably will not since MPAA will simply use thier massively deep pockets to bury Piratebay and others with paperwork that they will have to spend money to respond to.

It really stinks that our legal system is no longer about who is right or wrong, but who has the most money to fend off the other guy, but that is another discussion.

Mercurious

2 posts since
May 15, 2008

6. May 15, 2008 10:38 PM

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Hollywood Wants $15 Million From Pirate Bay

All these companies talk about loss of earnings, not how much they actually make (and its usually a very healthy profit). They tell us its killing the film industry. Maybe that's a good thing, I remember at some time in my earlier life I used to watch movies and they were special. That was probably because each movie had something different to say, or a different style etc. It was more about the 'art' of film-making. Now when films are made, lets be honest, it's more about the 'art' of money-making.

Maybe if all of these companies didn't try to make x amount of millions/billions per film, they wouldn't have a large group of people trying to circumvent paying. I mean come on, how come I go to see a film in the Cinema and it costs me $12, but to buy the same DVD (several months later) is $40.

At this stage we all have a fairly good idea about the price of manufacture of a DVD (under a $1). Do the people running these companies not think that they make enough profit already?

number6

72 posts since
Mar 28, 2008

7. May 16, 2008 2:01 AM

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Re: Hollywood Wants $15 Million From Pirate Bay

I think its kind of ridiculous that they would fault a search engine for some else's downloading movies illegally.

rtfire1

261 posts since
Jan 24, 2008

8. May 16, 2008 5:21 AM

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Hollywood Wants $15 Million From Pirate Bay

the mark up on dvds alone is crazy. Its cheaper for a family of 4 to go to the movies then buy a dvd. My point we went and saw Iron man on the first saturday it was out we saw the 2:10 showing it was 21.75 for the 4 of us. thats a lot better then 25 bucks when it comes out on dvd.

Mercurious

2 posts since
May 15, 2008

9. May 16, 2008 8:22 AM

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Re: Hollywood Wants $15 Million From Pirate Bay

Privi - private

lege - law<br />

Tune in, turn on, drop out

sjeldich

17 posts since
May 16, 2008

10. May 16, 2008 11:22 AM

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Hollywood Wants $15 Million From Pirate Bay

What exactly is Private Bay? Is it another program like Bittorent? If so, you guys are dead on track. Unfortunately, it's going to take a world full of experts to bring a stop against piracy.

number6

72 posts since
Mar 28, 2008

11. May 16, 2008 5:10 PM

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Re: Hollywood Wants $15 Million From Pirate Bay

What do you mean?

flyer9753

2 posts since
May 15, 2008

12. May 16, 2008 4:18 PM

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Re: Hollywood Wants $15 Million From Pirate Bay

Piratebay is a search engine that searches for and indexes .torrent files around the internet, just like Google and Yahoo and hundred of other generic search engines do with web pages and such.

multihuller5693

2 posts since
Jan 12, 2008

13. May 16, 2008 7:47 PM

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Re: Hollywood Wants $15 Million From Pirate Bay

The Pirate Bay (and other .torrent search engines) merely find torrents
on the internet. If the MPAA wants to sue someone, it should be the
sites that host these torrents, not the search engine that finds them.
This would never hold up in court, and the MPAA knows that. So instead,
they are going to bide their time with every single legal process they
can until the lawyer/court fees build up and The Pirate Bay goes is
forced to close down. This is just like oil monopolization in the past
(1800's mind you...): you can't legally make the competition leave, but
you can force them out.

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