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3 Replies Last post: Oct 15, 2006 6:56 PM by rlschild  
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Sep 25, 2006
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Sep 25, 2006 8:14 PM

Firewire - Ethernet conflicts

Tried & threw in the towel on Adaptec 4300 firewire card installation into a Dell Dim 4700. After I install the card, my ethernet can no longer connect. Adaptec had one suggestion: to remove 2 1394 drivers related to the the 1394 as a network card. However, that did not get the conflict resolved. That's all the help that the adaptec knowledgeless support folks could offer.

I checked the IRQ settings and there was no conflict, checked many other things too and no luck. Reveresing whatever windows did when registering this peice of hardware took several hours to reverse and get the internet to connect again.

I'm very leary about another card, but want this to support my DV camcoader and a firewire DVD writter.

Anyone have any clues that might resolve this (besides buying another PC with firewire built in!!)
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Oct 15, 2006
1. Oct 15, 2006 6:30 AM in response to: rlschild
re: Firewire and Ethernet conflicts
I have a similiar problem. I have a firewire port on the back of my Compaq Desktop Presario 7940 with two external drives connected. I installed an ethernet card, but it could not connect. I finally got it to work by searching the net and following advice to disable the 1394 net adapter in device manager under network adapters. Then I could no longer see my external drives (connected via firewire). I took out the ethernet card, reenabled the 1394 net adapter, did a system restore...still no firewire connection. Bought a new firewire pci card, installed it, still no firewire connection. Tried the firewire pci card in another pc, hooked the hard drives up...great, could see and access both drives. Tried the card again in my pc, no firewire connection. The drives, cables and the pci card all work in the other pc, just not mine. I can hook one drive up via usb and can access it ok (have usb 1.1 so it is a slow connection. I tried a usb 2.0 card, but my pc won't recognize it). The other hard drive only has firewire ports so I can't connect via usb.
I've been searching the net for a week now for help, no luck. To me it seems like windows (I have XP home) is somehow blocking the firewire ports. Device manager shows both ports as functioning normally however when I plug a drive into one, I get nothing. I have not messed with the BIOS and there are no settings to change that I can see that would indicate that something has been disabled.
A question: if device manager show something as "functioning normally" can it be "lying"? and are there some other settings in windows that I can check?
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Oct 15, 2006
2. Oct 15, 2006 11:38 AM in response to: rlschild
I got mine to work.
I uninstalled pci firewire card, ethernet card and modem card (which I don't currently need). Rebooted and checked device manager, no problems. Then installed pci firewire card into a different slot and booted up. As windows was loading, I heard the familiar bing bong sound that windows makes when something is inserted into a usb or firewire slot, but I had nothing plugged into them. I then tried plugging one of my external hard drives into the pci firewire card and IT WORKED!!!! I attached the 2nd external hard drive to the 1st and IT ALSO WORKED!!!! So at this moment I had both of my external drives showing up, but no ethernet card installed yet. I safely removed both external hard drives and tried them in the onboard firewire port, no detection. I tried them in the pci firewire card port again and they WERE detected.
At this point I still had no internet. I looked at System Information and checked the IRQ assignments. I decided to try the last slot for the ethernet card. Shut down, installed and rebooted. I let windows install the ethernet card and plugged the internet cable in....IT WORKED!!!!
My BIOS does not allow me to assign IRQs, so I have to work with what I have. I tried searching for a BIOS update, submitted a request to esupport.com and the response was: Phoenix made the BIOS and sold it to Compaq, who modified it. So the only way to update it was to get the update from Compaq. Compaq (HP) had nothing available for my older pc. So until I ever get a newer pc, I'll just deal with what I have.

So if this helps:
My IRQs for my pci slots are
slot 1, IRQ 11
slot 2, IRQ 5
slot 3, IRQ 10
slot 4, IRQ 5 or 10
slot 5, IRQ 11
These I found out by installing cards and checking System Information, IRQs. Slot 4 showed IRQ5 at one point, IRQ10 at another (maybe I didn't make note correctly?).

So currently I have:
Video card in the AGP slot, IRQ 10
Slot 1, sound card, IRQ 11
Slot 2, empty, IRQ 5 (my onboard firewire is also using this IRQ)
Slot 3, pci firewire card, IRQ 10 (sharing with video card)
Slot 4, empty, IRQ 5 or 10
Slot 5, ethernet card, IRQ 11 (sharing with sound card and 2 onboard USB controllers)

Something that I have learned from all this is that if switching devices, I need to UNINSTALL the older device first, before installing the new device (as in going from internet-usb to internet-ethernet). I looked through my Road Runner install kit and it said nothing about switching connection types, it only showed how to hook up either one or the other. The Motorola cable modem (supplied by Road Runner) did not come with any instructions or paperwork (an oversight by the install guy?)

Hope this helps.

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