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25 Replies Last post: Jul 23, 2008 9:52 PM by rgreen4   Go to original post 1 2 Previous Next
Click to view smax013's profile Old Hand 3,867 posts since
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15. Jul 6, 2008 9:14 PM in response to: rgreen4
Re: Schools banning laptops discussion

rgreen4 wrote:Laptops! Pocket Calculators didn't even exist when I went to undergraduate school. It was either long division or slide rules.

And this was my first pet. http://forums.pcworld.com/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/4807/Greendino.JPG

Did you have fire back then? http://forums.pcworld.com/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/4808/FIREdevil.gif




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Click to view piyushsingh's profile Old Hand 2,514 posts since
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16. Jul 6, 2008 9:23 PM in response to: techie4fun
Re: Schools banning laptops discussion
In my opinion the click...click...click..iti...click will be irritating.


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Click to view rgreen4's profile Member Moderators 4,211 posts since
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17. Jul 6, 2008 9:24 PM in response to: smax013
Re: Schools banning laptops discussion
We heard rumors of it.


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18. Jul 23, 2008 6:43 PM in response to: techie4fun
Re: Schools banning laptops discussion
My school is actually implementing laptops into our classrooms. I work in the IT department there and we have been providing laptop carts for the classrooms so students can use them for different things during the year. It seems to work ok. As far as kids bringing personal laptops from home there is an agreement they must sign stating that they cannot use the school's network or power resources on their own personal property and if the teacher tells them to stop using the device they have to comply. Other schools need to adapt a policy among these lines as well.
Click to view mjd420nova's profile Member 819 posts since
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19. Jul 23, 2008 6:57 PM in response to: rgreen4
Re: Schools banning laptops discussion
Rgreen: I don't even want to think about the incredibly long formulas I had to work with the old "slipstick". The first calculator I ever really made use of was an old TI-30. That was in '82 when I took a health physics class. It had 50 programmable steps. Came in real handy to figure out radioisotope half lives. The new ones they have out today are pretty incredible, like the TI-87 or 88.
Click to view rgreen4's profile Member Moderators 4,211 posts since
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20. Jul 23, 2008 9:09 PM in response to: mjd420nova
Re: Schools banning laptops discussion
In the early '70's, TI introduced the Datamath a basic 4 function "pocket" calculator that was way too big for any pocket. It would add, subract, multiply and divide and ate 9 volt batteries like they were going out of style. They were a hot item. Those who had friends at TI could sometimes get them to get a refurbished on from their company store for half price.

I finally got one in about '74 when they had ramped up production enough that the price had dropped. By the time I had gone back to Graduate School they were everywhere and the old slip sticks were gone. That was in the summer of '75. Had one class that the instructor would not allow the use of calculators and the students whined about it for a while. His quizes didn't divide out evenly either. The first exam, I went all the way through it, looked around and all the other students who were about 10 years younger were still going at it, so I went though the exam a second time, found and corrected a few errors. I was still the first one out of the room. Turns out the instructor and I were the only ones who could really do long division.

I'll bet few of our younger members even know what that is.


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Click to view piyushsingh's profile Old Hand 2,514 posts since
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21. Jul 23, 2008 9:16 PM in response to: rgreen4
Re: Schools banning laptops discussion
Are you talking about the long division method ?


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Click to view rgreen4's profile Member Moderators 4,211 posts since
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22. Jul 23, 2008 9:37 PM in response to: piyushsingh
Re: Schools banning laptops discussion
Yes I am. I don't think it's taught over here any more.


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Click to view Flashorn's profile Old Hand 1,632 posts since
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23. Jul 23, 2008 9:38 PM in response to: piyushsingh
Re: Schools banning laptops discussion

Hey Piyush !!


No , Piyush, rgreen is talking about YOU, the younger members,LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


rg! , I can sooo relate to that story. I bought my first calc. in '72 . Paid an ENORMOUS

amount of money for it. $100.00 was like a months pay for a student back then.


My teacher in accounting (I did start in that discipline) was adamant . NO CALCs in

his classroom. Boy what a let down. But , as you well know , we were still using it

anyways.

Fun Times. These were the BEST years of my life. A girlfriend on my arm,(now my wife. MPH, REMEMBER!)

a car to go to college with and good friends to party with. What more could anyone ask for?/?


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Click to view piyushsingh's profile Old Hand 2,514 posts since
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24. Jul 23, 2008 9:51 PM in response to: rgreen4
Re: Schools banning laptops discussion
rgreen4 wrote:Yes I am. I don't think it's taught over here any more.
OMG. how could anyone skip the basic things. We dont have any calcs allowed in school i.e upto 12th grade .After that they are allowed and are necessary. But really, long division .....it should be known.


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Click to view rgreen4's profile Member Moderators 4,211 posts since
Oct 22, 2006
25. Jul 23, 2008 9:58 PM in response to: Flashorn
Re: Schools banning laptops discussion
Flashorn -

I started off in Electrical Engineering and finished in Finance. Of course that's a very time sensitive discipline and if you don't practice it for six months, your behind the curve. I spent almost 6 years flying in the Navy and when I got back, my degree was obsolete. I went into Personnel and hated it, went to Grad School and got my MBA in Accounting, where I have spent the last 32 years, working in the paper industry.

That course I was speaking of the the first half of Intermediate Accounting which I was taking as a PostGraduate student before actually starting the Grad School courses to give me a good foundation. The school (Texas A&M) had once been an all male school and at this time was still about 80% male, and had a saying about this course that is not repeatable in polite society, so I won't. But it was the course that at the end of the course, you were serious or changed majors.

I found I was much more serious in Grad School, but then 10 years in the real world has that affect on you. I at least had the car in Grad School, as an undergraduate I didn't get my first car until my Senior year.

Piyush -

They may, but 30 years ago, the young undergraduates in that course were struggling. We'll have to find out from some of our younger members over here. Of couse it could be that they hadn't had to do it for a few years and I had done it for more than a decade at that point. Plus the fact that I was always numerically inclined and some of them were challenged in that area, about half of them changed majors at the end of the semester.


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