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10 Replies Last post: Jul 8, 2008 10:23 AM by techie4fun  
Click to view Bobz's profile New Member 6 posts since
Jun 18, 2008
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Jun 18, 2008 5:59 PM

Looking to Buy a Gaming Desktop

Well i am going off to college and it is time to get a new computer. My budget is <2000 but i can go over if it will be worth it in the end. I am looking for somethig that will allow me to play all the latest games and be reliable for the next 4 years. I want something that is worth the money. It doesn't have to be the best but rather the best for the price it is(although i still want to get a good computer).

I would prefer not building one and getting one premade and i have been looking at some sites but not rlly sure what all i would need. If i need to build i can i guess and i can get a friend of a friend to build it for me (he knows like everything kinda) but i like how they come all ready to go from day 1.

Any help/advise is welcomed

Thanks

~Bobz

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Click to view coastie65's profile Old Hand 3,329 posts since
Apr 2, 2007
1. Jun 18, 2008 6:22 PM in response to: Bobz
Re: Looking to Buy a Gaming Desktop
Hey Bob and welcome to the forum. First, you might try www.AJUMP.com although you would have still buy some other stuff as they are bare bones. You want a good HDD capacity ( at least 500Gb), at least 2 Gb of ram, (preferably 800Mhz), Intel C2D of at least 2 Ghz, an NVidia 8600GT or 8800GT video card and at least 800w PSU and a good CD/DVD optical drive. Some come with some pretty good onboard audio chipsets of a least 6 channel such as Realtek HD. I have seen some with 12 channel onboard audio. As far as a monitor goes, a 19" Wide screen will suffice. You can probably find and if necessary upgrade an exisisting system to those specs well within your budget. What I mean is you can find a system with specs that are close and then upgrade the necessary stuff to those specs. coastie65


eMachines T5212.... Intel Pentium D 945 3.4Ghz..... evga 8600 GT 256 Mb PCI-E video card..... Realtec HD audio......2 Gb 533 Mhz DDR2 memory..... Lite on CD RW; DVD +R / RW DL optical drive...... Windows XP MCE 2005....... Antec Basiq 500w PSU......200 Gb PATA HDD
Click to view Kilme's profile Member 196 posts since
Feb 12, 2008
2. Jun 19, 2008 5:50 AM in response to: Bobz
Re: Looking to Buy a Gaming Desktop
If you want something premade, then as Coastie said, it's good to find a cheap computer with a good processor, then upgrade from there. For instance, here is an amazing deal for a Gateway that comes with a Q6600, as well as plenty of other goodies:

Gateway GT5678: $779.99

Intel Q6600
4GB DDR2 667
750GB SATA2
18x DVD Burner
HD2400XT 256MB
Included keyboard, mouse, and speakers
Windows Vista Home Premium

The only problems are that it doesn't come with a monitor, and the video card is crap, but they are both easily fixed. Along with the new video card, should be a new power supply. This is because the included power supply with the computer either wouldn't have the power necessary to run a modern video card, or wouldn't have the cables necessary to power it. Unfortunately though, you might want to get your friend to help you on the power supply installation, since I'm not sure if you know where everything plugs in and such.

EVGA 8800GTS: $229.99
Acer 19" LCD: $179.99
Corsair 650W PSU: $109.99

Total price: $1299.96 (excluding shipping and rebates)

So that's a cheaper alternative if you sub out a few parts. With the Q6600, you'll be future proof for when apps and games start to utilize multithreading. The 8800GTS is still one of the best cards out there for the price, and will play modern games for years to come. 4GB of RAM is plenty for gaming, and a good amount for Vista. The 650W PSU leaves some headroom if you ever want to add more components. Lastly, 750GB is a good chunk of storage, but there's always room for more hard drives if you need it.

If you do ever want to make a custom built computer, then don't hesitate to ask. I think it's better, since you have a lot of quality parts to choose from, and you can customize everything down to the last detail as you see fit. Plus, it's a great experience, and lots of fun. But it's entirely up to you.


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4. Jun 19, 2008 11:46 PM in response to: Bobz
Re: Looking to Buy a Gaming Desktop

Of the 2, I would take the FX541X over the FX541S because of the slightly better video card(the hundreds value in those nVidia names says how good it is with the 900s being the best, 800 as second and so on though these have changest for the latest ones which are now a 200 series with the 280 being the best card in terms of performance though the 260 is the better bang for the buck card from reviews I've seen), though there are some new generation of cards coming out from the last few weeks to the next month as the Radeon 4000s come out and nVidia has a new line of 200 series cards if you want bleeding edge performance as these cards are pretty pricey. Tom's hardware is a site that has a monthly list of the best video cards for the money that would be something I'd consult if I was putting together a gaming desktop in terms of what level of leading edge do I want as there are some very expensive cards at the high end where you are spending $600+ for the card while if you take a small drop in performance the price may come down a bit more. There is also a site called ExtremeTech that has a "Bang for the buck" build that may be of some interest if you do go for the build it yourself. You do realize that maintaining a gaming desktop means possibly buying a new video card every 18 months to keep up with the latest games and stuff as there is now DirectX10.1 that nVidia isn't supporting in their latest cards I think but AMD is supporting it so who knows how that will pan out.

JB


Home Desktop: VoodooPC Hexx. AMD Athlon FX-60, 2 GB RAM, 2 x 250 GB HD, 7900 GTX video card. Home Laptop: HP dv4000, Pentium M, 2 GB RAM, 80 GB HD, ATi 700 Radeon Mobility
Click to view coastie65's profile Old Hand 3,329 posts since
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5. Jun 20, 2008 3:38 PM in response to: Bobz
Re: Looking to Buy a Gaming Desktop
Hey Bob, You're right turning away from the 64 Bit OS if you plan on doing any gaming. I don't think there are many if any that will run in 64 bit, although I guess you could go into the display settings and down grade the graphics to 32 bit. Although I'm not a big fan of Dell, I am a gamer and they do have a rig that got my attention. It was the XPS 720 H2C. Definitely out of my budget, as I am not ready to drop that kinda cash on a computer. That thing is a horse and is impressive. coastie65


eMachines T5212.... Intel Pentium D 945 3.4Ghz..... evga 8600 GT 256 Mb PCI-E video card..... Realtec HD audio......2 Gb 533 Mhz DDR2 memory..... Lite on CD RW; DVD +R / RW DL optical drive...... Windows XP MCE 2005....... Antec Basiq 500w PSU......200 Gb PATA HDD
Click to view techie4fun's profile Old Hand 1,942 posts since
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7. Jul 8, 2008 3:27 AM in response to: Bobz
Re: Looking to Buy a Gaming Desktop
You are correct: The HP machine does have a quicker processor.

I'm assuming the 9500GS requires less power so a 460 Watt may not be bad, but you can always upgrade to something stronger if you don't feel comfortable with it.
Click to view piyushsingh's profile Old Hand 2,395 posts since
Jul 21, 2007
8. Jul 8, 2008 5:03 AM in response to: Bobz
Re: Looking to Buy a Gaming Desktop
Bobz wrote:

512MB NVIDIA GeForce 9500GS, DVI-I, VGA, HDMI


Can you pull up some official information about the mysterious card. I wasnt able to get any. 9500GT is yet to be launched near the end of july 2008. There is another one - 9500 M GS but that is for notebooks. I havent heard anything related to 9500GS. Are you sure it wasnt a typo or the HP people are cooking something ?????

btw - gateway looks fine.


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Click to view coastie65's profile Old Hand 3,329 posts since
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9. Jul 8, 2008 7:17 AM in response to: techie4fun
Re: Looking to Buy a Gaming Desktop
Hey techie, From what I've seen, manufacturers typically stay right at the edge as far as PSU's go to save costs and leave it to the purchaser to upgrade the the PSU to what is needed. coastie


eMachines T5212.... Intel Pentium D 945 3.4Ghz..... evga 8600 GT 256 Mb PCI-E video card..... Realtec HD audio......2 Gb 533 Mhz DDR2 memory..... Lite on CD RW; DVD +R / RW DL optical drive...... Windows XP MCE 2005....... Antec Basiq 500w PSU......200 Gb PATA HDD
Click to view techie4fun's profile Old Hand 1,942 posts since
Oct 18, 2006
10. Jul 8, 2008 10:23 AM in response to: coastie65
Re: Looking to Buy a Gaming Desktop
Good point, Coastie. Thanks for bringing that up.

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