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Click to view bear90039's profile New Member 13 posts since
May 2, 2008
15. Jul 14, 2008 7:22 PM in response to: PCWorld
Re: 3G iPhone's Mediocre Battery Life Still Beats Rivals
Then it's not mediocre is it? It's the best battery life available.
Click to view joeldm's profile New Member 10 posts since
Apr 5, 2007
16. Jul 14, 2008 9:46 PM in response to: pfhat
Re: 3G iPhone's Mediocre Battery Life Still Beats Rivals
No Blackberry 3G battery tests got you down? Read 'em and weep, babe:

http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/06/battery_life_is.html

Seems RIM can't get the thing to work. The biggest problem? Battery life!

How the haters hate!

JoeL
Click to view RipRagged's profile New Member 1 posts since
May 11, 2008
17. Jul 14, 2008 9:57 PM in response to: PCWorld
Re: 3G iPhone's Mediocre Battery Life Still Beats Rivals
It's exactly the same way that a peanut butter sandwich and a glass of milk isn't a ribeye steak and a glass of IPA.
Click to view pk22901's profile New Member 1 posts since
Jul 11, 2008
18. Jul 15, 2008 4:25 AM in response to: PCWorld
Re: 3G iPhone's Mediocre Battery Life Still Beats Rivals
Not having read all the comments... (This may have been asked.)

Seems absurd to limit battery testing to 10 hrs max. I can't imagine....

Forbes' 500: The 82 people worth more than $1B (in alphabetical order)

Wow! What a cover!
Click to view pfhat's profile New Member 7 posts since
Jul 14, 2008
19. Jul 15, 2008 9:20 AM in response to: joeldm
Re: 3G iPhone's Mediocre Battery Life Still Beats Rivals
Not to kick a horse, but the point is that blackberry has been excluded from these tests allegedly because they do not have a 3G phone. This is incorrect. They do not currently have a 3G GSM unit, but they have many 3G CDMA units. If this test is merely for HDSPA phones, then it should say so, it should not claim that the iPhone beats it's rivals while leaving out it's largest 3G rival.
Click to view joeldm's profile New Member 10 posts since
Apr 5, 2007
20. Jul 15, 2008 9:47 AM in response to: pfhat
Re: 3G iPhone's Mediocre Battery Life Still Beats Rivals
The problem with this is that even RIM estimates its battery life at just 4.3 hours for their EV-DO model:
http://na.blackberry.com/eng/devices/device-detail.jsp?navId=H0,C221,P883#tab_tab_specifications

. . . the 8330. And Mobile Tech's review put "real" battery life at less than that:
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/phones/BlackBerry-Curve-8330.htm

Add to that, the fact that you can't surf and talk at the same time on an EV-DO phone and the even shorter battery life if you use its multimedia features (see review), if they had included it, it would have fallen far down in the pack. Other reviewers rate the batter life as longer, but if you read them closely they're talking about "talk time," not talk and surf and email and mulitmedia. This is where the iPhone really pulls away.

The Blackberrys have their place and for the right consumer it's a fine platform, but they are a generation behind in technology and, apparently, battery life.

JoeL
Click to view pfhat's profile New Member 7 posts since
Jul 14, 2008
21. Jul 15, 2008 10:15 AM in response to: joeldm
Re: 3G iPhone's Mediocre Battery Life Still Beats Rivals
Fair enough I can respect that, but what about the pearl, and more importantly the blackberry 8830 which does both GSM and CDMA. The battery life for GSM mode is supposed to be much larger for that model than the CDMA mode.
Click to view streetwiser's profile New Member 1 posts since
Jul 17, 2008
22. Jul 17, 2008 1:28 AM in response to: PCWorld
Re: UPDATE: 3G iPhone's Battery Life Beats AT&T Rivals--But EvDO BlackBerrys Run Longer
A Dutch start up , called 3GJUICE produces the the strongest iPhone 3G battery extender avalaible, 1770 mAh. The owner, Henk van Ess, is a well known internet guru in The Netherlands. He became so angry with the battery life of his iPhone last Friday, that he shopped around in Linkedin to find a manufacturer who could produce the strongest possible battery in the smallest possible case (6 cm). The former record of 1200 mAh was from a RichardSolo, the 3G JUICE has 50% more power and gives the iPhone 1770 mAh. Apple has already certified it, because the 30 pin connector is from the certified vendor Apple uses.

http://forums.pcworld.com/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-129115-5012/small3gjuice.jpg


It has a cap so it can slide into your pocket. With 3 or 4 3G JUICE's you can talk for 24 hrs (better get a life if you want to do that). Gizmodo in The Netherlands thinks that Dutch dude will be a millionaire :).

Click to view ToyotaTundra's profile New Member 16 posts since
May 1, 2008
23. Jul 17, 2008 4:17 AM in response to: PCWorld
Re: UPDATE: 3G iPhone's Battery Life Beats AT&T Rivals--But EvDO BlackBerrys Run Longer
speedracer, get your information straight. The Blackberry 8800 series does run on 3G
Click to view joeldm's profile New Member 10 posts since
Apr 5, 2007
24. Jul 17, 2008 7:18 AM in response to: pfhat
Re: 3G iPhone's Mediocre Battery Life Still Beats Rivals
I read half dozen reviews and only in talk mode, CDMA, does the BB surpass the iPhone. When using EV-DO it gets MUCH shorter battery life.

BTW, the guy who said the 8800 was 3G? Not true, it's GSM, but not 3G.

JoeL
Click to view pfhat's profile New Member 7 posts since
Jul 14, 2008
25. Jul 17, 2008 9:14 AM in response to: joeldm
Re: 3G iPhone's Mediocre Battery Life Still Beats Rivals

The 8830 is both GSM/CDMA enabled. In CDMA mode it uses a subset of CDMA2000 known as EV-DO....."CDMA2000 is considered a 2.5G technology in 1xRTT and a 3G technology in EVDO."

So in conclusion, it's 3g, although NOT the same as HSPDA....oooh scary world, other technologies too confusing!

Click to view joeldm's profile New Member 10 posts since
Apr 5, 2007
26. Jul 17, 2008 9:39 AM in response to: pfhat
Re: 3G iPhone's Mediocre Battery Life Still Beats Rivals
As I pointed out (reading skills alert) it IS 3G. EV-DO is considered 3g, but for the purposes of comparing one to the other, when the 3G is in use talk time drops off precipitously. And you can't talk and surf at the same time. So when talking, yes, as stated, the 8830 gets better battery life than the iPhone, but when used as a mobile browser or for other digital data content, the battery life is considerably lower than the iPhone.

Your complaint was that the BB 3Gs weren't in the comparison and as pointed out there is no AT&T 3G BB, while the Verizone/Sprint flavor uses CDMA/EV-DO which does not allow simultaneous surfing and talking like the iPhone does. If used as an iPhone is used (I guess by talking a bit, then hanging up and surfing a bit, then . . . you get the picture) then the battery life is less, even based on Blackberry's own specs. Worse when reviewers got their hands on it.

This can't be that hard to figure out.

JoeL
Click to view pfhat's profile New Member 7 posts since
Jul 14, 2008
27. Jul 17, 2008 10:11 AM in response to: joeldm
Re: 3G iPhone's Mediocre Battery Life Still Beats Rivals

The original article http://www.pcworld.com/article/148348/3g_iphones_mediocre_battery_life_still_beats_rivals.html has been updated to include blackberry 3G models (and marked as EV-DO) to prevent confusion as to which network they use.


Thank you PCWorld!!!!

Click to view bpabbott's profile New Member 3 posts since
Jul 17, 2008
28. Jul 17, 2008 9:07 PM in response to: hardmanb
Re: 3G iPhone's Mediocre Battery Life Still Beats Rivals
I'll add that my 1st gen iPhone's battery use to last me two days. Now with the 2.0 software it only manages about 6 hours. If I disable some features then I'm able to squeeze out a full day.

Point being that the new phone's battery life isn't so different than the old version.
Click to view bpabbott's profile New Member 3 posts since
Jul 17, 2008
29. Jul 17, 2008 9:11 PM in response to: ITGuy1
Re: 3G iPhone's Mediocre Battery Life Still Beats Rivals
"You would be wrong...I have an LG Voyager from Verizon, and can indeed make & receive voice calls while connected to the 3G network."

Yes. Because you are making the call over the 3G network. However, during that call no data is being transfered.

To check, try browsing the web while talking on your phone.

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