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11 Replies Last post: Nov 1, 2006 7:51 PM by mycompdoc  
Click to view painkillerrob's profile New Member 31 posts since
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Oct 8, 2006 8:36 PM

WINDOWS XP OR WINDOWS VISTA ?

WHICH DO YOU LIKE BETTER ? AND IF ITS VISTA WILL YOU WAIT UNTIL THE FINAL VERSION?
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Click to view genedefcon's profile New Member 98 posts since
Aug 15, 2006
1. Oct 8, 2006 8:39 PM in response to: painkillerrob
Relpy
XP


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Click to view TheNameless's profile New Member 787 posts since
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3. Oct 9, 2006 2:04 PM in response to: painkillerrob
Bob, you've made several topics about Vista / Vista VS. XP.

And please don't type in caps, some people might take it the wrong way.

Thanks.


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Click to view Samin's profile New Member 19 posts since
Oct 20, 2006
4. Oct 24, 2006 1:26 PM in response to: painkillerrob
Unfortunatley at some point in time you will not have a choice. All support for 98 & NT4 has stopped, and Win2K is right there as well - WinXP will follow suit as well.

I have installed Vista RC1 on my machine - I think it runs nicely, and actually found all of my hardware - of course I have an image of my XP install waiting on my partition should it fail or stop working - but it does have quite a few improvement over XP.

When I really start using it more I will know, but as a prelim I can tell you that things are different, and it can leave you lost where to find this, where to find that, but its nice. I think if it can offer the stability, speed, reliability and power that has been proclaimed it will be great.

I really don't judge RC's or beta's too much - mainly because there is so much that can change on the final release - for good and bad - so that will be the final test - but this RC1 is preety good, snappy, stable so far (and actually I have found a much stronger wireless connection over XP).
Click to view jbking's profile Member 967 posts since
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5. Oct 24, 2006 1:41 PM in response to: painkillerrob
I think this is may be like trying to say who makes the better burger: McDonald's or Burger King. To elaborate on that point:

1) XP has at least 4 different versions: Home, Media Center Edition, Pro and 64-bit version. Which of the 4 are you meaning? Any of them or all of them?

2) Vista has 12 versions as there are the 3 consumer versions, 2 business versions and the emerging markets as well as both a 32 bit and 64 bit version of each I think. Which do you mean here?

This is without considering other factors like costs and familiarity. After having used XP for as long as I have now, how much pain will I have to learn how to use Vista? While some things may "look cool," how much of a problem will I have troubleshooting when things don't work like they should?

There are arguements to be made for each side and right now I'd say I'm biased toward XP though that is subject to change if one wants to bribe me. :twisted:


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Click to view Samin's profile New Member 19 posts since
Oct 20, 2006
6. Oct 25, 2006 5:57 AM in response to: painkillerrob
I agree with your point - changing how things are done can confuse users - even techies! However, and I am by no means a MS advocate, I think MS has been "stoned to death" on how their OS operates and the holes that is imminent in every OS that they have produced, and probably this has been an effort to add the type of security that is needed.

I am not sure if it will work as they expected, but I guess time will tell. Last night I was fiddling around - and I can tell you it is not as straight forward as all of their OS's has been - just to get to nthe TCP/IP settings had me guessing - it is not difficult - but does require you to learn a new procedure to get their.

Many of the features are based towards the consumer - many help routines and diagonstics - which can be a pain for the experienced or techie user.

I have read on many forums that MAC users beleive that Windows is very difficult to use - I use them all - MAC, Windows, UNIX & Linux, and I think each OS has their own perks are downfalls, and you have to approach each OS differently - don't expect each OS to work like the other and you have to set your mind frame towards that.

Similarly the differences between XP & Vista is or can be great - and will require new procedures and techniques - but that is part of growth - without it there will be no advancement. Of course that said, I am sure that most people will like to access things the same way all of the time - especially techies - they know what they want and where to find it - this OS is going to change things quite a bit.

I guess we will have to wait and see their final release to see what changes have been made and how best the OS can be tailored to suit the needs of everyone - MS has a major problem, which happens to be their success - their user base - it is so large that it is impossible to meet the needs of everyone.
Click to view SpiritWind's profile Enthusiast 1,202 posts since
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7. Oct 26, 2006 9:58 AM in response to: painkillerrob
Vista "Liability" !?
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BEFORE considering "Vista", read the info in the link below from a VERY reliable source :

http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2006/10/will-patchguard-be-maginot-line-of.html


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Click to view bmwboy's profile New Member 55 posts since
Jul 27, 2006
8. Oct 27, 2006 7:34 AM in response to: painkillerrob
I'm going to obtain vista when it is released. Then I will consider buying it if it works. I ain't forking over $$$ until I'm sure that it runs the exact way I want it, and does it's job correctly.
Click to view Samin's profile New Member 19 posts since
Oct 20, 2006
9. Oct 27, 2006 8:57 AM in response to: painkillerrob
Hey SpiritWind, nice article - and very true indeed! I think, however, from reading about the complaints that numerous security software companies made about the inability of Vista to allow their packages to function (similar to the Web Browsing issue), that this has been "fixed" (and I say that with reservation).

Until the final release will not know for sure, but I think that it would be in MS's best interest to accomodate these other software providers - again MS's probelm of trying to be everything to everyone comes into play - and regardless of how secure an OS is deemed to be, I think that many IT professionals have "developed" a trust or bond with other packages and will prefer to weigh their options on them, instead of any OS.

MS Windows has not have a very good track record about security in the past - although I think it is mainly due to the vast circulation of their OS instead of JUST their security holes. I am sure if MAC or Linux was the OS of choice to the masses, much more "holes" would have been found - as the old saying goes - build a better lock - the theives find a better key!

I think we are years away from having any system that is secure to vacat the chances of being hacked or getting malware, but the efforts are growing and improving, and that's good to see.
Click to view mycompdoc's profile New Member 40 posts since
Oct 20, 2006
11. Nov 1, 2006 7:51 PM in response to: painkillerrob
I would get the newest beta of vista and install it on your old computer
then when vista is available and service pack1 is released I might upgrade my newest computer.

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