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Click to view Krysta's profile New Member 2 posts since
Oct 9, 2006
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Oct 9, 2006 2:48 PM

Alienware customer service hardly "award winning"

Let me start at the beginning. First off I have only had this pc since June.

Starting about the beginning of Sept. I started getting a graphics bug. It had started out usually at the loading screen of games like EverQuest when first logging in. Things stretch out all crazy like a waterpainting that's gotten wet. It only happened at first to the viewable area of the games. The UI windows were fine the whole time. If it started up in full screen mode and I toggled to windowed it fixed it sort of. The immediate problems would go away and everything would look normal. Sometimes lasted 3 seconds sometimes 10 hours. I'd get no warning when this was gonna start up. Also worked other way around, if I got it in windowed mode swithcing to full screen would temporarily fix it.

I had no problems in any other game online or off. No problems in any other program. The only other thing I had seen happen is that when booting up my pc at the windows xp screen and the splash screens before and after it while logging in, some of the pixels were um.. wrong. Like there would be blue or red pixels lit up randomly in what should be a solid black area. Not many and not all the time either.

I hadn't done anything prior to these bugs that would've or could've caused it. I hadn't installed anything different or new and hadn't changed any options. It just began happening randomly.

Since this began I had tried adjusting all my graphics options on desktop, vid card, in several games, etc. Nothing happened. Well, I mean if I changed everything to black and white it all changed to black and white or if I changed resolution it changed. But the buggy part was still there no matter what I did.

I had installed newest nvidia drivers hoping that would fix it and nothing changed.

I reinstalled lastest DirectX and that didn't do anything either.

Even rolled back to old restore point and still had same thing happening.

I contacted several friends I know that work with computers or own computer store etc. No one seemed to have any answers. All I got is either they didn't know or they'd give me a list of 100 things it could possibly be. Neither helped me.

I'm horribly frustrated. Paid over 3k for this pc and nothing.

Fans are working. Have fans and alienice liquid cooling thing.

Friend told me that there seems to be a lot of people having issues with the nvidia 7xxx series cards. So tried some of the reported fixes too like using beta drivers and stuff.

None of that worked. Finally went back to all the original Alienware drivers from the site. Still the same problems persisted.

Well, I went to the Alienware forums. Once there I discovered I needed to create a "support account". Fine, then I posted a fairly long post explaining my problems complete with screenshots. Upon hitting submit I got redirected to a page that informed me that my post needed to be "approved" and so forth. Which was kinda ridiculous. Three days later my post finally shows up along with a response telling me the usual dribble to try new drivers and blah blah. So, I respond explaining I have tried new drivers, went back to old drivers, tried updating directx, etc. I hit submit, "You post has been sent for approval." BLAH.

http://support.alienware.com/Forum_Pages/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=538650

Days later, I get another response, does this happen only in EverQuest, EverQuest2? I repsond, "Your post has been sent for approval..." sonofabish.

WEEKS LATER, after several back and forth posts I get "Please give us a call so we can replace that graphics card for you." I'm thinking YAY finally.

So, I call... Idiot 1 answers. May I get your account number please. Ok, fine I give it to him. Minute goes by, "Just be a second I'm pulling up your account info now." Another minute goes by, "Still pulling up your info, seem to be having some problems sorry for the wait should be any second now." Couple mins later, "Sorry, my computer seems to be slow today, still retrieving your info, please hold on a minute." <hold music> Five minutes later, ok I have your info now. What seems to be the problem? WHAT SEEMS TO BE THE PROBLEM??? WTF I spend 2 weeks going to support forums and you all don't even look at them to see what's wrong?!? /sigh. So, after I explain everything again he tells me, "First thing I need you to do is hang up with me and open your computer and clean all the fans with a can of compressed air." W T F. FINE. I hang up, do that, and about 30 mins later I call back, yeah I cleaned the fans. THREE AND A HALF HOURS ON HOLD, TRANSFERRED FIVE TIMES. Still everyone having issues pulling up account info and NONE of them have gone to the forum to read the posts yet. Oscar transfers me to Rodney, he transfers me to A.C. who tells me I've been transferred to the wrong dept. and sends me to Mack who tells me still wrong dept. and sends me to Jason, then onto John. At this point I'm pissed. Takes a lot to really piss me off but once I'm pissed that's it. So, now I'm talking to idiot number 7 at this point. I'm like look. I've called 3x, been transferred more times than I can count, have a two week old message thred on support forums that NO ONE has even bothered to look at yet. Problem is my graphics card is broken and needs to be replaced.

Well, after a bunch more crap I'm given 3 options. Option 1, send old card back wait with NO pc for new one. No onboard graphics on mother board and my old card from old pc is agp this has no agp slot. So, this is not an option. Option 2, give them credit card info as a security deposit. Well that's no option right there cause I have no credit card. After I go through this whole "You don't have a credit card?" thing (like I'm from another planet cause I don't have a credit card) that option is gone. Option 3, only other option, use a debit card and they will charge me $370+ and send card. When they receive old card back they will refund me. I'm like look, I don't have $370 laying around. I survive off disability and the little bit of money I make from making websites for a few people. They're like, oh well I am sorry those are the only options we have. So I tell them fine you'll have to put all that info to the side and wait till I get money. They give me a referrence number for when I call back. This was all on Wed. or Thurs. Sept. 27th / 28th.

At this point the problems had gotten MUCH worse over time. I was completely unable to login to any 3d type game or program. Was having issues in all programs now. Tons of red, blue and green pixels lit up on all screens. On the rare occassion I was able to actually get any program running the entire pc would freeze up to the point where I could not shutdown or even ctrl alt del and ended up having to pull the plug out of the wall. And after about 10 mins of being on my entire screen starts flashing black.

So, late Sunday 10/1 I call back...very late like 4am ish. My bank was just showing enough money to clear the infamous securtiy deposit without jeopardizing normal bills. At this point I'm told that the new graphics card will be "sent out on Monday the second by 2 day Fed Ex and should arrive on Thursday." um... ok That's not 2 days... Anyhow, Thursday comes and goes. FRIDAY, Fed Ex arrives! YAY!...?!?...or not?!?!?

Sent me the wrong damn grafics card.

The one I got, while likely better, was nearly 3x the actual size and physically came nowhere close to even fitting in my pc.

So, back on the phone I go again. "Oh, it would appear in this particular case that there must have been a mistake on our end." No, um..."kidding" Sherlock...really? and all this time I thought I personally chose to receive the wrong gd card and cause this issue to enter week 4 or 5 or whatever.

So, they say, "Well, in this particular instance we can send you the correct card. First I need to get your credit card information again for the security deposit..." No f'n way! At this point, I'm through even trying to be patient or nice. After more transfers I get this guy on and the usual "what's your account number, name, phone, address, email" as if it had all changed in the last 5 mins. "What seems to be the problem?" WHAT SEEMS TO BE THE PROBLEM??? You dont' really want to know.

Well, anyhows, the end result is that I'm told Alienware is sending the correct card and it "should" be here on Monday Oct. 9 definetly. In the meantime the old card broke completely finally. Ten times I asked this guy, are you sure? Explaining again what had happened with the last so called two day shipment. He assured me that his computer showed it would be here on Monday.

They swore after asking 10x that the new card would be here...

Monday came and went. Called Alienware up again and asked WTF is going on? They transferred me a couple more times, put me on hold. Well, come to find out, the part HAS NOT SHIPPED YET! I'm like OMG why not? They DON'T KNOW!!! I have to "email they're shipping dept. and ask them why this part has not shipped".

I was told that the shpping department's email address was emailed to me and it was NOT and has not been still and I don't expect I ever will get it.

I may drive the entire pc to their doorstep and call my bank and have charges reversed. This is total crap. Is this because Dell bought Alienware? Is it because they're in Miami? Have they always been this way?

I just can't believe it. You should take back their "award winning customer service" award and smack em in the head with it.

edited by kellie to remove masked profanity
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Click to view AuroraDizon's profile Member Moderators 4,237 posts since
Jul 30, 2006
1. Oct 9, 2006 3:33 PM in response to: Krysta
Well Dell took over Alienwear so I'm assuming and I could be wrong you may be getting the same "awardwinning" tech support there too lol.

I remeber those commercials of Dell being the best tech support. When my forigen exchange students laptop he got from Dell the usb port just stopped working, after hours of painstaking tech support online chatting, they FINALLY sent a thing to come get it.

Awardwinnig.. right..


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Nov 6, 2006
2. Nov 7, 2006 10:47 AM in response to: Krysta
Did you file a claim with your CC? Did you get your money back? I am in the middle of that with my CC. They said it seemed like a valid claim and would conditionally refund me the money pending the submittal of the paperwork and an investigation. Out of the 38 days I had the machine I was waiting for parts for 34 of those days.

Dell used to be awesome. When I had friends go through them. They basically screwed up the ordering but Dell set things right anyways at no charge. The Alienware tech support are friendly but no all the techs I get know what they are doing.

That always drove me nuts that they would ask for my info then transfer me and the next guy would ask me for into. Not to mention the guy named Steve, Mike, Fred, etc had the hardest accent to understand. Whenever I would talk to them I would think of this movie: http://www.callcentermovie.com/

Below is what I went through.

Day -15 Ordered Alienware Area 51 M5700 System
Day 1 System shipped
Charged on CC
Day 5 System received
Bad monitor, would not turn on. Used old monitor to see if system would start up.
Hard Drives would not boot (drives were corrupt). Had to reload the operating system using Windows XP Recovery CD.
No sound. Sound card was connected to motherboard incorrectly. Had to pull out video cards to change the sound card connector
System starts crashing using Internet Explorer. Load latest drivers.
Crashing continues. Crashes cause the CMOS to wipe. Each crash I would have to go into the CMOS and set defaults, enable sound and hard drives. Stop using system until new monitor comes in.
Day 10 2nd monitor shipped
Day 14 2nd monitor received
2nd Monitor bad will not stay on for more than 2-3 sec. Monitor looked used. The packing was incomplete (monitor was wrapped with torn/shredded bag) all accessories missing. Tech support stated they would send monitor 2-day express.
Day 15 1st defective monitor returned
Charged for monitor
Day 18 3rd monitor shipped
Noticed a FEDEX shipping email was not 2-day express and called tech support. They said it was a mistake and send a 256 MB USB stick as an apology.
Day 22 3rd monitor received (started to use system)
Boot up system and it continues to crash (using program and one time doing nothing, lost all work on project). Ran through diagnostics with tech support the entire week. When system crashes it wipes the CMOS and emits loud static through speakers.
oReload OS using Alienware Respawn CD (1 hour)
oRun Hard Drive diagnostics on each hard drive (2) using Windows Recovery Menu (1 hour) diagnostic said unrecoverable errors
oDownload and run Seagate Hard Drive diagnostics (2-3 hours)
oDownload and run Memory diagnostics on each memory module (4) for 1 hour each (4 hours) no errors
oDownload and run video diagnostics on each video card configuration (3 card 1, card 2, card 1 & 2 SLI enabled, 1 & 2 SLI disabled). Still intermittent crashing. Crashed twice during the test when both cards are plugged in, but finally completed the test. (2 days)
oTech support states based on windows recovery errors and video test crashing intermittent to replace hard drives.
oTried to use computer until new hard drives arrive but crashes too frequent (between 5-30 minutes)
oReloaded OS with only iTunes and latest drivers. Crashes continue. Stop using machine until new hard drives arrive.
Day 23 2nd effective monitor returned
Day 30 New Hard Drives shipped
Do not have tracking number info
Day 34 New hard drives received
Called Alienware about monitor charge, told would get refund in 24 hrs. (as of Day 37 no refund posted)
Day 35 Installed hard drives and reloaded OS using the Windows XP recovery CD.
Still crashes crashed while using my graphics program, Internet Explorer, iTunes, and again using a the disk defragmentor. Called tech support and they had me reload system using Alienware Respawn (recovery CD).
System still crashes using graphics programs and iTunes music. Tech wanted to go through the diagnostics again to check old components and ensure new hard drives were not bad. Told them no I wanted to talk to customer service but they said it was closed until Monday.
Called CC Customer Service and explained situation to determine if I had a valid claim. Representative claimed I did but should try to go through Alienware first.
Day 37 Defective Hard Drives returned
Called customer service and they stated they would not give me a refund since I have had the system more than 30-day. Customer Service manager said the system would not let him override it.
oThey then offered for me to send the entire system back to them and then when they fix it to send it back 2-day express and extend the warranty this entire period.
Called CC customer service to file a claim
Click to view AuroraDizon's profile Member Moderators 4,237 posts since
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4. Jan 4, 2007 9:19 AM in response to: Krysta
sorry to hear that

hope things go better =(

_

what are you on EQ btw I'm normally a dark elf necromancer


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5. Jan 4, 2007 7:36 PM in response to: Krysta
Maybe it is not the video card. It may be some other component causing the problems.

Post your whole experience at http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Alienware

You will need your order number. This will definitely get the customer service rep's attention. The person I got had more authority to do more stuff than when I called in to get help. She also responded back to me via email within 24 hours but you can probably ask to talk to her on the phone.

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