Quantcast
PC World
You are not logged in, click here to log in.
10 Replies Last post: Mar 7, 2007 9:34 AM by jlavigne23  
Click to view cruzreal's profile New Member 22 posts since
Feb 20, 2007
Reply

Feb 22, 2007 4:06 AM

Do you recomend Win Vista?yes,no. Why?

I have heard awful things about vista but ive heard aful things about almost any OS so i wonder why should i get vista and why shouldnt ?
Reply
Click to view jbking's profile Member 967 posts since
Aug 29, 2006
1. Feb 22, 2007 7:48 AM in response to: cruzreal
You should get Vista if you want to be on the cutting edge and enjoying the latest stuff from Microsoft in a sense. If you are getting a new computer then getting Vista on it may make sense as a way to be prepared for the future if Vista becomes the common O/S for most users that is predicted on more than a few places from my readings about what is expected.

OTOH, you shouldn't get Vista if you are OK with what you have now. There are likely more than a few bugs still to get worked out with Vista as well as possible issues with drivers on some of the newer hardware out there I'd think.

Just to add when I plan on getting Vista if ever, it'll be in 2009 when I get a new computer as last year I bought a couple that should last a few years.

Regards,
JB


Home Desktop: VoodooPC Hexx. AMD Athlon FX-60, 2 GB RAM, 2 x 250 GB HD, 7900 GTX video card. Home Laptop: HP dv4000, Pentium M, 2 GB RAM, 80 GB HD, ATi 700 Radeon Mobility
Click to view Wayfinder's profile New Member 85 posts since
Jan 30, 2007
2. Feb 27, 2007 4:09 PM in response to: cruzreal
No, I don't recommend Vista at all. Why? Because of the absolutely awful things you've already heard about it: they're all true.

Bloated, fat, RAM-hungry (gulps down 2/3 gig of RAM, requiring 2 gigs just to operate comfortably), incompatible with Micro$oft's own products, bug-ridden, re-deployed commands with no end-user documentation as to what changes were made.

All you have to do is read these forums and forums elsewhere to see multitudinous posts recommending to stick with XP.

Vista-- the new Me.
Click to view ryanlk's profile New Member 1 posts since
Mar 1, 2007
3. Mar 1, 2007 10:03 PM in response to: cruzreal
I think vista will be installed on the most home PCs in just one year..
Personally I dont see Vista is any better than the MacOS but ffs the UI looks just great to me:)
Click to view Wayfinder's profile New Member 85 posts since
Jan 30, 2007
4. Mar 2, 2007 11:40 AM in response to: cruzreal
Ryanik, you may be right. But it will be interesting to see whether Vista becomes the OS of choice-- or whether it proves to be just another Me fiasco. I'm already hearing a lot of people say "Stick with XP". And those who are using Vista are saying to either get BASIC or Ultimate and forget the Premium or Business versions. (Apparently if one doesn't care about Windows Media Player-- which I sure don't-- Premium isn't worth the extra $$$).

I see Vista as being another Me. Now mind you, rather than bringing out a new version like they did with XP, Micro$oft will probably just "update" it. But I don't see how that is going to overcome some of the major flaws in the system... such as being so bloated it's ready to explode, or being incompatible with Micro$oft's own products. Those are pretty large problems.
Click to view sameer1977's profile New Member 1 posts since
Feb 1, 2007
5. Mar 5, 2007 5:55 AM in response to: cruzreal
Vista is the Best
well, till now whatever Gibbrish i had read against VISTA has disgusted me. I say VISTA is one the remarkable OS i have used till now (i am using from Win 3.0 till now) For NEW USERS its not an OS to use but for people who had used Win 98 - 2000- XP will enjoy VISTA.

Excellent Achievement
Click to view techie4fun's profile Old Hand 2,033 posts since
Oct 18, 2006
6. Mar 5, 2007 7:19 AM in response to: cruzreal
I had the chance to go with my mom to Office Depot and they were selling Laptops with Vista on it. So I had about 5 seconds to make mouse clickies on the pretty desktop. It ran OK. I was able to check out the system requirements without it locking up on me. Processor was an Intel Celeron 1.6 GHz with 2 gigs of ram. It's very appealing to the eye, the aero glossy start menu and bars look nice.
Click to view Wayfinder's profile New Member 85 posts since
Jan 30, 2007
7. Mar 6, 2007 12:26 PM in response to: cruzreal
Re: Vista is the Best
sameer1977 wrote:well, till now whatever Gibbrish i had read against VISTA has disgusted me. I say VISTA is one the remarkable OS i have used till now (i am using from Win 3.0 till now) For NEW USERS its not an OS to use but for people who had used Win 98 - 2000- XP will enjoy VISTA. Excellent Achievement

I'd have to disagree (not being disagreeable, mind you. :D)

I believe it's the new users, who don't know how OSs work, that will be pro-Vista. After all, they have nothing to compare it to.

However, as seen on these forums and other forums, existing XP users aren't so happy. Why?

XP: < 128megs RAM
Vista: Minimum 512 megs RAM
XP: $99 with Media Center
Vista: $99
XP: Takes about 6-8 gigs on hard drive
Vista: you better have a 250 gig drive if you want to be comfy. Depending on the company you get it from, Vista can easily hog 100 gigs of drive space.
XP: Fully compatible with all Micro$oft products
Vista: NOT-- most notably Micro$oft's own programming languages-- languages which thousands of businesses have used to construct custom software (and if anyone thinks they're going to Vista just for a pretty interface-- think again. LOL)

We haven't heard the screaming feedback from all the businesses who suddenly will find their vital programs are not compatible with Vista. But every business who has ever written a program in Visual Basic, Visual C++, or Visual Studio is NOT going to be switching to Vista. They'll stick with XP rather than totally reprogram their custom software or stop using their vital business programs.

So yes, Vista is pretty. It appears to be somewhat stable (at least, until the hackers get it in their sights... then we'll see). But Vista re-arranging the user interface without informing customers where their oft-used command buttons now lie... is not going to make major fans of existing XP users.

Just mho mind you... but I'm seeing a lot of people echo the same concerns. I'm not anti-Micro$oft nor anti-Vista. I am anti-bloated-price gouging-ram hungry-hd hungry-monopolistic OSs that perform more poorly than the competition they illegally put out of business.
Click to view StormX2's profile New Member 130 posts since
Sep 12, 2006
8. Mar 6, 2007 1:09 PM in response to: cruzreal
i prefer linux -.-
Click to view 73transamsd's profile New Member 33 posts since
Feb 22, 2007
9. Mar 6, 2007 10:24 PM in response to: cruzreal
Re: Vista is the Best
Wayfinder wrote:> sameer1977 wrote:well, till now whatever Gibbrish i had read against VISTA has disgusted me. I say VISTA is one the remarkable OS i have used till now (i am using from Win 3.0 till now) For NEW USERS its not an OS to use but for people who had used Win 98 - 2000- XP will enjoy VISTA. Excellent Achievement


I'd have to disagree (not being disagreeable, mind you. :D)


I believe it's the new users, who don't know how OSs work, that will be pro-Vista. After all, they have nothing to compare it to.


However, as seen on these forums and other forums, existing XP users aren't so happy. Why?


XP: < 128megs RAM

Vista: Minimum 512 megs RAM

XP: $99 with Media Center

Vista: $99

XP: Takes about 6-8 gigs on hard drive

Vista: you better have a 250 gig drive if you want to be comfy. Depending on the company you get it from, Vista can easily hog 100 gigs of drive space.

XP: Fully compatible with all Micro$oft products

Vista: NOT-- most notably Micro$oft's own programming languages-- languages which thousands of businesses have used to construct custom software (and if anyone thinks they're going to Vista just for a pretty interface-- think again. LOL)


We haven't heard the screaming feedback from all the businesses who suddenly will find their vital programs are not compatible with Vista. But every business who has ever written a program in Visual Basic, Visual C++, or Visual Studio is NOT going to be switching to Vista. They'll stick with XP rather than totally reprogram their custom software or stop using their vital business programs.


So yes, Vista is pretty. It appears to be somewhat stable (at least, until the hackers get it in their sights... then we'll see). But Vista re-arranging the user interface without informing customers where their oft-used command buttons now lie... is not going to make major fans of existing XP users.


Just mho mind you... but I'm seeing a lot of people echo the same concerns. I'm not anti-Micro$oft nor anti-Vista. I am anti-bloated-price gouging-ram hungry-hd hungry-monopolistic OSs that perform more poorly than the competition they illegally put out of business.


It seems to me that most of the people who are saying negative things about Vista are those who don't even have it. Maybe some of you are afraid of change? I just bought a new computer with Vista home premium. My computer came with 2 GB RAM. And I'll tell you what, Vista is awesome. I love it. It does take some getting used to. But I started out with Windows 98 and I was uncomfortable with the changes they made for XP at first. Then when I got used to XP I found out how much I liked it. Vista is differant. I'm still not used to it fully. But it is an exciting OS and I'm really liking it. I don't know where you got the info that Vista will take 100 gigs on the hard drive but let me tell you what it REALLY takes. I have a 320 GB hard drive. After everything I use has been installed including photoshop elements and other programs, I still have 291.83 gigs available on my hard drive. You numbers are severly inflated. I would recomend 2 gigs of memory and an average or better graphics card but then DEFINATLEY recomend Vista. It has a lot to offer and I would be disappointed if I had bought a new computer with XP only to find out later that Vista is this cool and that I opted out of it. Definately give Vista a chance. All the nay sayers are here and they are always around when a new OS comes out. So don't let it discourage you from getting a system with Vista because Vista is stable and it is a remarkable OS.
Click to view jlavigne23's profile New Member 5 posts since
Mar 1, 2007
10. Mar 7, 2007 9:34 AM in response to: cruzreal
I've just finished reading the January 2007 PC World magazine edition.
There is a really good article on Vista "Everything you need to know about Windows Vista.

I think the only huge change would be the visual effects... they look awesome !
But if you read all the article, you'll find out that Vista has more bugs, programming incompatibilities and multiples issues that need to be correct by a patch or upgrade... (many to come, rest assure).

Some say it's like the ME version of Windows... not very good...

For all these reasons, I wouldn't go with Vista until a year or more, until they patch all the littles mistakes they let pass because they had to release the product ! And you can't report the release of Windows Vist !

So, users of Vista, prepare yourself to be angry at Vista, but in times, you'll smile after all the patches !

You should read the article, pretty good ! (from Preston Gralla).

Visit other IDG sites: