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7 Replies Last post: Apr 11, 2007 9:21 AM by agwiii  
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1. Mar 28, 2007 9:02 PM in response to: PCWorld
High-Def Video Superguide
Blu-ray is gonna win eventually. It has more storage capacity and it has a better name lol. Unless US is stupid (which we are) then we will choose the cheaper less-futuristic HD-DVD.
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2. Mar 29, 2007 9:22 AM in response to: PCWorld
I think Blu-Ray will win the war. Once the gen 2 players come out, HD-DVD will lose its only real advantage.

This shouldn't turn into another BETA vs VHS battle where the consumer got stuck with a technologically inferior product.

At least I hope not.
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3. Mar 30, 2007 5:58 PM in response to: PCWorld
HD DVD VS Blue Ray
See, here lies the problem, (and why I think HD DVD has a chance). Beta was not an inferior product to VHS, in fact, Beta was actually better. In my opinion, the reason VHS won out is because the Adult movie industry sided with VHS because it was cheaper and easier to mass produce. The same is true today, the Adult movie industry has sided with the HD DVD format (and we all know thats a Billion dollar industry). Im not saying that HD DVD will win the battle this time because of this because Sony refuses to produce Adult move content (and HOORAY! for them). And hooray for LG who has built a player that plays both formats. If only they had been around some 25 years ago, they could have made a VCR that played both Beta and VHS.:D[/b]
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4. Apr 1, 2007 12:37 PM in response to: PCWorld
High-Def Video Superguide
I think this format war is similar to LCD vs Plasma, not betamax vs VHS. Bluray is going to win just like the LCD tvs. Plasma, rear-projection as well as the HD-DVD are soon going to be a dead technology. I hope that there will be some affordable bluray recorders out there just before the football season. Regardless of the codec used, only bluray can store that 4-hr game with less compression because of its storage capacity.
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5. Apr 1, 2007 3:59 PM in response to: PCWorld
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They will both lose. Most people are more than happy with the quality of regular DVDs and the features they offer and won't be tricked into this new rubbish. If people are willing to put up with the limited quality and features of movies that play on a mobile phone they aren't gonna be 'wowed' by this super-duper junk masquerading as 'Hi Definition!' This time the spaced out corporate loonies have underestimated the public and although it will eventually catch on in the US and Japan and maybe some parts of Europe in about 20 years it's a loser as far as the rest of the world is concerned.
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6. Apr 10, 2007 10:04 AM in response to: PCWorld
Very sad review.
These reviews are really sad.

1. Blu-ray does not have a better picture than HD-DVD. At best, they are the same. If you compare any film released on both formats, they're going to look the same. It's like saying that a 1080p signal looks better than a 1080i signal on a 1080p television. Unless the TV doesn't de-interlace properly you can't tell the difference. You're getting the same information after all.

2. For SD-DVD upconversion, HD-DVD has always had a noticable lead over blu-ray, especially the PS3 game machine.

3. Price. Blu-ray is way over priced. A stand alone HD-DVD player can be had for $300 street price now. Closest that blu-ray has is the PS3 for $600 ($500 if you can find the 20GB version) plus the cost of remote and an HDMI cable.

4. Sound. I prefer the hd-dvd due to the fact that the player decodes the advanced audio formats which to date, only the PS3 can do. And to contradict the "article" True-HD is better than PCM because it sounds the same while using less space. PCM and True-HD will sound the same since there is no loss of information(LOSSLESS). When studios start using audio codecs like DD+ and True-HD for blu-ray movies, the current generations of blu-ray players are not going to be able to decode them. They'll have to use the standard Dolby Digital soundtracks.

5. interactivity - HDi, like the advanced video/audio codecs have been mandatory for HD-DVD from the beginning. Not so for blu-ray. The first gen. blu-ray offerings will not be able to handle BD-I and some BD-J features if any studios ever get them to work. New interactive features are already beginning to arrive on HD-DVD.

6. Space - if space were such an issue either HD-DVD would have been killed off already, or they would have started releasing the triple layer HD-51 discs. Even the 3+ hour King Kong fits on an HD-30 and it looks and sounds phenomenal.

So what this article is telling us is that despite the fact that blu-ray doesn't have a fully functional player yet (PS3 is closest) and is at least twice the price for at best a similar performance, blu-ray is going to be the "winner". Please. :roll: With all the PS3s that have been sold, blu-ray supposedly has 10x as many players available and they currently are selling ~ 2:1 movies over hd-dvd. That's pretty bad with such a large hardware advantage. And last time I looked at the numbers, hd-dvd was selling better for the recently released "Happy Feet" movie available on both formats.

So it's looking like we are just going to have to live with two formats and the dual-format players in the future. I just really hope all the studios go format neutral as to date, Toshiba is the only one that has their act together. It's just pathetic that with all the CE manufacturers that have released blu-ray players, that they don't have fully functional players yet. How are the people who already purchased blu-ray players supposed to feel when new features on future movies will not work with their players. Are they supposed to just keep buying new players? Just becuase they're willing to spend around a thousand dollars, doesn't mean they'll spend that much everytime theirs a new feature available for blu-ray.

Not to sound like I'm totaly against blu-ray technology, because I'm not. I fully expect to purchase a blu-ray player when one is available that supports all the features, decodes the advanced audio codecs and is priced comparable to HD-DVD. Mainly because I would like to get some of the Sony movies in HD and I think they'll be the last hold outs to release movies in HD-DVD.
Click to view agwiii's profile New Member 2 posts since
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7. Apr 11, 2007 9:21 AM in response to: PCWorld
Almost meaningless
The reviews of blueray versus hddvd remind me of the ancient vhs vs. beta contest, but they also remind me of the audio reviewers with golden ears that could "hear" differences in wires. It's bogus.

I was in several of the major stores this weekend, and the hot sellers are the "up-converting" dvd players. They range from less than $50 to well over $200. When these products came out, they up-converted to 1080i. Some now offer 1080p. This reminds me of my old Runco projector with a Farojda line-doubler.

On today's market, I can buy a <$100 up-converting dvd player that will connect via hdmi to my 1080p monitor. Is this as "perfect" as if I bought a $1,000 blue ray that connected via hdmi to my 1080p monitor? No, but is it better than my old dvd player? Yes. It allows me to watch all of my dvds, and to enjoy shopping for bargains instead of paying $20 - $40 and MORE for the blueray/hddvds. Some of the hi-definition dvdplayers are not downwardly compatible, so the old dvds are useless.

Sometimes, new technology products are worthwhile. These are not, at least for now. I suggest buying a good up-converting dvd player and enjoying it until the manufacturers get serious about high-definition dvds, make the players downwardly compatible, make the blueray and hd-dvd players compatible, and reduce the prices of the dvds. Until then, the consumer will be smart and allow the blues versus the hds to fight it out. The winner is the one who waits.

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