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Apr 20, 2007 6:55 PM

Hacker Cracks a Mac at Security Sonference

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Click to view Islandgirl's profile New Member 4 posts since
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1. Apr 21, 2007 6:07 AM in response to: PCWorld
Hacker Cracks a Mac at Security Conference
Hi, in the interest of accurate reporting, perhaps you'd like to provide readers the entire story. Here's an excerpt from C/NET:"The successful attack on the second and final day of the contest required a conference organizer to surf to a malicious Web site using Safari on the MacBook--a type of attack familiar to Windows users. CanSecWest organizers relaxed the rules Friday after nobody at the event had breached either of the Macs on the previous day..."In other words, from what other tech publications are reporting is that no one gained "root" access the first day, so they relaxed the rules to allow people to try to find a vulnerability in the Safari browser. It's also interesting, and not reported by PC World, that the hackers had physical access to the Mac laptops and apparently were allowed to log on as administrator. Kind of slopping reporting not to provide all of the story.
Click to view gnorville's profile New Member 1 posts since
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2. Apr 21, 2007 11:54 AM in response to: PCWorld
Nice catch
It's good to get the whole story, not just the attention grabbing bits that are used to capture reader interest, an increasingly common journalistic practice.
Click to view PopsTX's profile New Member 1 posts since
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3. Apr 21, 2007 3:55 PM in response to: PCWorld
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You know, I've relied upon PCWorld for tech news for many years and like many, have also relied that that information was complete and truthful.

However, here I find an article that is lacking in completeness as well as truthfulness. The sad part is that telling "the Whole truth and Nothing But the Truth" is horribly difficult to find on the 'net these days and I've found myself taking just about everything I read with a grain of salt.

Apparently PCWorld has succumbed to the thought processes of the "Major" news reporting venues. What a shame.
Click to view ExiMod's profile New Member 4 posts since
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4. Apr 21, 2007 4:31 PM in response to: PCWorld
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As both a PC and Mac user I've held PC World in very high esteem for its fair reporting on the Mac platform. For many years I've appreciated how they've justly pointed out the strengths and weaknesses of Macs.

A Mac IT guy I knew expressed amazement that a fair article on Macs had appeared in this magazine. I jumped to the defense of PC World, telling him that it is an excellent publication. I'll never do that again. Sorry to see the bad reporting and bad editing. Remember ethics and standards? They're not obsolete.
Click to view Soren's profile New Member 9 posts since
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5. Apr 21, 2007 5:08 PM in response to: PCWorld
aw lay off, slanted yes, but not at the level of your typical mac vs. pc ad...
Click to view TheNameless's profile New Member 787 posts since
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6. Apr 21, 2007 5:27 PM in response to: PCWorld
Soren wrote:aw lay off, slanted yes, but not at the level of your typical mac vs. pc ad...
Have to agree. Though I don't agree with the way they left out critical details, there are worse incidents that have happened with PCWorld's articles. PCWorld is still more credible than some other sites I used to go to.


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Click to view Islandgirl's profile New Member 4 posts since
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7. Apr 21, 2007 5:38 PM in response to: PCWorld
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Soren,
The difference would be journalism vs. advertising.
As in, PC World's articles are supposed[i] to be journalism. The Mac vs. PC spots are [i]paid ads.
It should be obvious to a reader which is which. This article? Not so much.
Click to view leming's profile New Member 1 posts since
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8. Apr 21, 2007 6:59 PM in response to: PCWorld
Hacker Cracks a Mac at Security Conference
Why do you even bother to publish this biased BS? This article is one sided, the facts are wrong as well, sounds like the most ignorant person you could find wrote this. "MIicrosoft is putting more work into security then Apple has" did you think you would get away with such a ludicrous statement as that? idiot of course microsoft needs to spend more time on security then Apple because Apple is based on unix which is much more secure.Apple seems to have it under controll 6 years not a single attack in the wild, whereas on the other hand we have windows which gets attacked thousands of times daily, doesnt seem to me like theyre doing their jobs so well does it? So next time you have the urge to write something write something worth while and dont insult my intelligence, Thank You.
Click to view TheNameless's profile New Member 787 posts since
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9. Apr 21, 2007 6:25 PM in response to: PCWorld
Everyone, we welcome complaints, but please keep the flaming to a minimum (none at all would be very desirable).

Respect others and their feelings.

Thanks.


Good by nature, but evil by my own free will.
Click to view bobmarksdale's profile New Member 4 posts since
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10. Apr 21, 2007 8:43 PM in response to: PCWorld
Soren wrote:aw lay off, slanted yes, but not at the level of your typical mac vs. pc ad...

Yes, but those are ADS, payed for by Apple, not a supposedly unbiased news site. See, what some people find hard to understand is that a company will try to bias the facts in a way that will put them in a favorable light, as where a NEWS organization should not. This news article, while technically correct (in most areas), is extremely lacking and biased.:::::!:
Click to view sloggerkhan's profile New Member 25 posts since
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11. Apr 21, 2007 9:19 PM in response to: PCWorld
ummm....
My main issue is that the article doesn't provide any relevant info. How was the mac hacked? What was hacked? Etc... When you hear about flaws you usually hear a little bit of explanation and the article provides no info.
Click to view ExiMod's profile New Member 4 posts since
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12. Apr 21, 2007 9:54 PM in response to: PCWorld
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Soren wrote:aw lay off, slanted yes, but not at the level of your typical mac vs. pc ad...

Well, actually I think it's good to disagree with an article in a case like this. Not just for the reader's sakes, but for the sake of the magazine as well. There are a lot of extremely competent and highly skilled people at PC World. When they publish something like this it drags the whole organization down. The overall quality of a publication is only as good as the combined quality of its products.
Click to view wiseone's profile New Member 1 posts since
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13. Apr 21, 2007 10:09 PM in response to: PCWorld
Hacker Cracks a Mac at Security Conference
Actually, some of the anger for the malicious attack on Apple in the article should go to the stringer who wrote the story; Nancy Gohring of IDG News Service. Yes PC World deserves criticism for not checking her facts but in the magazine's defense, if they didn't send their own reporter they were at the mercy of Gohring's agenda. And they got burned.Want to bet they won't hire her or IDG News Service again soon?
Click to view ExiMod's profile New Member 4 posts since
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14. Apr 22, 2007 12:16 AM in response to: PCWorld
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wiseone wrote:Actually, some of the anger for the malicious attack on Apple in the article should go to the stringer who wrote the story; Nancy Gohring of IDG News Service.

Yes, you're right. I noticed that she works for IDG right after my last post. I went to nancygohringdotcom and saw that she publishes in CIO, Computerworld, InfoWorld, Network World, PC World, and even MacWorld. She's a very busy writer. Perhaps she's too busy to check her sources. I noticed, too, that this story was also posted on MacWorld's website and has since been yanked. The headline for this story at InfoWorld is "Myth crushed as hacker shows Mac break-in" lol!

Oh well, mistakes are made sometimes. I hope she didn't "screw the pooch" on her career with this one.

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